Lavar keeping his foot on Nikes neck
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MalikX
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... Ye SIGNED TO Adidas in a similar way that Lebron or Kobe is signed to Nike. He signed for $10 mil in 2013, and then re-upped a few years ago and they fund his line. That was the whole point of his rant with Sway was that he COULDN'T do it on his own and he needed the funding and platform from a larger company.
Did you miss where he went tens of millions into debt trying to get HIS OWN company (Pastelle) off the ground? This is probably the most influential musicians ever in terms of fashion who couldn't get his own shyt rolling, but according to your dumb ass it's easy as 1-2-3, just create a hot design and boom, start counting the money
Yeezy went into debt trying to launch a fashion house. We're talking about shoes. Not starting Burberry and Yves Saint Laurent. Stay on topic. And Yeezy has more creative control over his shoes than most athlete deals, so no, it's not the same
That's why Steph Curry's new shoes with UA look like orthopedic sneakers whereas Yeezy has more control over what shoes he puts out.You sound like a clown.
In 2017, when the Internet, Social Media and direct to consumer marketing has made thousands of regular ass people millions of dollars doing exactly what I said, the fact your small minded ass thinks fukking Lebron James or Steph Curry with their millions of followers and fans couldn't sell their own shyt is astounding. You really do sound like a slave.
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O.T.I.S.
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And youre acting like graphics are going to make a hot shoeYou are acting like companies don't use the same basic formula?
Slap some paint on some AF1's isn't designing a shoe
And no, not all companies don't. Currys don't look like yeezys, No jordan year looks the same, Lebrons don't look like Kyries, and NONE of them feel the same inside as well
MalikX
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That's it, huh? That's ALL they have to do? And who has the time and or desire to spend the money to do all that?
Again, if "there's nothing stopping" them then WHY hasn't anyone done it?
You keep mentioning dudes that are going AGAINST what you're describing here.
Ye tried on his own and failed, so he got that Adidas backing and now he's thriving.
LeBron has had chance after chance to break off and do his own thing but why would he? He's making money hand over fist with Nike.
The movie analogy is just so stupid for so many reasons that it's not even worth going on about. The risk/reward isn't even in the same stratosphere as pouring MILLIONS into a start-up apparel company in one of the most locked-up markets (sneakers) in the entire business world.
Dog....Ye was trying to launch a fashion brand like Burberry, Louis Vutton, Yves Saint Laurent. The high end fashion industry is notoriously racist and extremely difficult for outside brands to break into. People buy high fashion for luxury. Those companies have built up their brands for 200 years. Some longer. When it comes to high end fashion, people think white = better. People want to buy from European houses (Italian/French/British). They automatically associate anything that deters from that as less valuable or less luxurious. A black rapper/producer was really shooting himself in the foot trying to compete in a world like that. I wasn't talking about high end fashion though nikka. I was talking about fukking basketball shoes. Yeezy went into debt trying to go into the fashion world. He didn't go into debt trying to sell Yeezy shoes.
Just shut up and say you hate the idea of being a business owner. fukk outta here nikka. Every business on Earth is risky muthafukka
There's no such thing as a risk free business But being a superstar basketball player with millions of followers and fans is about as close as you can get to having a built-in market.And like I said earlier, nikkas like YOU would be telling actors to not produce their own movies or telling musicians not to have their own labels. You probably would've told Dre not to make headphones too. You're a small minded person
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O.T.I.S.
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shyt is extremely ugly
The only way I see this selling is for people who enjoy the 80's throwback graphic designs... Which some do.
Even polaroids and polaroid filters are making a comeback
Dog....Ye was trying to launch a fashion brand like Burberry, Louis Vutton, Yves Saint Laurent. The high end fashion industry is notoriously racist and extremely difficult for outside brands to break into. People buy high fashion for luxury. Those companies have built up their brands for 200 years. Some longer. When it comes to high end fashion, people think white = better. People want to buy from European houses (Italian/French/British). They automatically associate anything that deters from that as less valuable or less luxurious. A black rapper/producer was really shooting himself in the foot trying to compete in a world like that. I wasn't talking about high end fashion though nikka. I was talking about fukking basketball shoes. Yeezy went into debt trying to go into the fashion world. He didn't go into debt trying to sell Yeezy shoes.
Just shut up and say you hate the idea of being a business owner. fukk outta here nikka. Every business on Earth is risky muthafukka
And like I said earlier, nikkas like YOU would be telling actors to not produce their own movies or telling musicians not to have their own labels. You probably would've told Dre not to make headphones too. You're a small minded person
Nikkaz think Nike is doing some magical sh*t. If their products were that great it would stand on their own, give me a pair of New Balance or Saucony running shoes over Nike anyday of the week. Nike shoes sell because of the athletes, plain and simple. Again, middle finger to the middle man
SadimirPutin
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let me be honest with you...
marketing a product is one of the hardest most time consuming things to get right....it is expensive and you have to throw many approaches to figure out what works
and what works for some will repel others
what works when you are at sub million dollar sales might not work when you trying to reach 5 million
and after you market.....you have order fulfilment, dealing with returns, managing distribution, responding to inevitable angry customer
basically running a business takes money...
and any of us in here who have started or worked in an early stage entrepreneurial venture knows this....the cash burn rate is huge
marketing a product is one of the hardest most time consuming things to get right....it is expensive and you have to throw many approaches to figure out what works
and what works for some will repel others
what works when you are at sub million dollar sales might not work when you trying to reach 5 million
and after you market.....you have order fulfilment, dealing with returns, managing distribution, responding to inevitable angry customer
basically running a business takes money...
and any of us in here who have started or worked in an early stage entrepreneurial venture knows this....the cash burn rate is huge
You're thinking too big, Ball only has to manage his brand, he could EASILY get going with 2-5 million in funding. Hell he could get it going with $250K. Middle finger to the middleman. Spend your money on the best asset you own, which is your own likeness.
To be honest I'm not sure how the Balls became the face of black entrepreneurship in these parts. Lavar married a white woman and he's got 3 biracial kids that are probably all pawging. If this is a success and generational wealth is created, chances are it ain't gonna be generations of black people benefitting
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You have a knack for acting like people saying what you saying when they clearly not. You thought the ball boys was gonna do the sweatshop work themselves or something
you seem to have gone off the deep end. Only thing going on here is a family trying to start up a brand. With your logic, nobody should make another shoe because Nike existHaving a bigger company than Nike is a cool idea, but they just trying to have there own business first. Can they live? Again to show what you said has no substance, under armor was nothing in the shoe game. Curry's fame and popularity made that company a major player. Nobody has ever bought a pair of Curry's because of "under armor" they bought them because of Steph and the shoe looking good in certain colors
you are acting like because of the Nike logo period. That's bullshyt tho cuz there are a ton of ugly swagless unendorsed Nikes that get overlooked while we flock to the newest superstars pair.Kobe always had ugly shoes imo, done people still bought them tho. His Adidas
KD most of his shoes look like shyt imo, what type of Nikes sell the most. So in conclusion, the players have more power than you or them realize. And black people in general need to realize they can make alot more $$$ if they stop letting everyone else profit the most off of there hard work. You said what you say because they don't want black businesses in that space. Because once one brotha learns how to fly, the rest will wanna do the same aka bad for business! 
Yeezy went into debt trying to launch a fashion house. We're talking about shoes. Not starting Burberry and Yves Saint Laurent. Stay on topic. And Yeezy has more creative control over his shoes than most athlete deals, so no, it's not the same
You sound like a clown.
In 2017, when the Internet, Social Media and direct to consumer marketing has made thousands of regular ass people millions of dollars doing exactly what I said, the fact your small minded ass thinks fukking Lebron James or Steph Curry with their millions of followers and fans couldn't sell their own shyt is astounding. You really do sound like a slave.
Then WHY DON'T THEY you fukking moron?
Yo ass stay in here on some "woulda, coulda" shyt chit chatting about this possibility and that possibility, when the REALITY of it is these athletes that have the money and the influence to branch out and attempt to build their own company AREN'T DOING THAT.
Why do you think that is?
Dog....Ye was trying to launch a fashion brand like Burberry, Louis Vutton, Yves Saint Laurent. The high end fashion industry is notoriously racist and extremely difficult for outside brands to break into. People buy high fashion for luxury. Those companies have built up their brands for 200 years. Some longer. When it comes to high end fashion, people think white = better. People want to buy from European houses (Italian/French/British). They automatically associate anything that deters from that as less valuable or less luxurious. A black rapper/producer was really shooting himself in the foot trying to compete in a world like that. I wasn't talking about high end fashion though nikka. I was talking about fukking basketball shoes. Yeezy went into debt trying to go into the fashion world. He didn't go into debt trying to sell Yeezy shoes.
Just shut up and say you hate the idea of being a business owner. fukk outta here nikka. Every business on Earth is risky muthafukka
And like I said earlier, nikkas like YOU would be telling actors to not produce their own movies or telling musicians not to have their own labels. You probably would've told Dre not to make headphones too. You're a small minded person
No shyt starting any business comes with risk, but you have to weigh the risk vs. reward potential.
The basketball sneaker game is just as difficult to break into as evidenced by the fact that NOBODY WITH MONEY IS DOING IT. Again, you stay talkin bout what dudes could and should do with their money, but nobody that has that money is actually trying to break into a market that is LOCKED UP by basically one company, with 2 other companies behind them eating off the rest of it.
It's damn near impossible to break into, it would take years of work and millions of dollars to even begin to slightly penetrate that market.
You have a knack for acting like people saying what you saying when they clearly not. You thought the ball boys was gonna do the sweatshop work themselves or something
Having a bigger company than Nike is a cool idea, but they just trying to have there own business first. Can they live?
Dog try to keep up here. If Lonzo wanna start his own company that's on him, I don't give a shyt, the argument here is whether or not it's feasible for an athlete to throw away guaranteed millions to start their own apparel company to try and compete with the big boys.
Again to show what you said has no substance, under armor was nothing in the shoe game. Curry's fame and popularity made that company a major player. Nobody has ever bought a pair of Curry's because of "under armor" they bought them because of Steph and the shoe looking good in certain colors
UA was already a MULTI MILLION DOLLAR company before Curry ever signed on the dotted line. They found a niche spot in the market with their compression gear and blew up. Curry obviously helped them get in the shoe game, but the difference is that they already had an established, well-respected and well-known platform and name to launch Curry from, rather than starting from scratch as a brand new company with Curry's shoes.
Kobe always had ugly shoes imo, done people still bought them tho. His Adidas
And people still bought the shyt LIKE YOU SAID... which is the entire point. People are gonna grab the shyt up regardless because of the swoosh, or the 3 stripes. That's why it's an impossible market to try to penetrate. These companies dominate the market share. Go start the business if you want to and POSSIBLY make a little bit of money with it if all the stars align and you have the time and commitment away from your regular NBA career, not to mention being able to put the right team in place and be willing to bleed money for the first several years as you try to get it off the ground. By all means, have at it, but don't tell me Nike should be scared of that shyt
