Lavar Ball and BBB got these Nike execs mad :umad:

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The actual game played on courts,i dont mean when they decided to cut the bottom of peach baskets...The NBA was formed in the 1940s as the BAA and colleges only started playing it in the 20s/30s.

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An all black basketball league. From 1904-1950
 

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It's funny how people use the evidence of shoes sitting in a Nike outlet as some form of evidence that they are falling off without taking into account certain things.

First if a shoe is sitting in an outlet days after its original retail release its either a shoe produced and distributed for outlets as well as retail or its a B grade. Hypebeasts that find rare Jordan's in an outlet never tell you they bought a B grade because that would lower the amount of people giving them online props.

Second, almost every outlet center that has a Nike outlet also has an Adidas outlet stocked full of shoes. It's just that nobody cared that you could save 5 bucks on some shell toes. Outside of shells Adidas is just now getting shoes people will rock with and those joints are in the outlets too.

The days of an outlet being a true outlet store are over. Outlets now are stocked with product produced specifically for them and that goes for every clothing and shoe manufacturer there. That's how you can have Tanger Outlets up and down every interstate.

Tanger been good to a nikka. :wow:
 

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Here's why it wouldn't work:

the public is inherently loyal to particular brands. We might not even fukk with an offshoot of a brand if it's not from a brand we like. It wouldn't be any different than when every rapper had a clothing line. Some were wildly successful. Others just looked tacky and even the ones that succeeded sold their shyt off, kept the money, and then the brand effectively died because they became more interested in higher fashion.

But they only need a percentage, a small percentage at that, to buy into the brand. This is a mom and pop brand so far. If they got just one million people to pay $50 for a pair of shoes, they've made $50 million. AND they own it! And mind you, that's one million people in the world....out of billions of potential consumers all across the world.

It's the same thing in the music game. The guy whose indy only needs to sell a fraction of what the guy whose signed to the major has to sell to make the same money. And if the indy guy has a strong your following, he'll end up making a lot more. Why? Because he owns the package while your favorite rapper that you hear everyday on the radio is lucky to get a point on the package.

So, the guy who owns it, doesn't need everyone to like it. He just needs a small group to like it. The employee needs everyone to like it since he only gets paid a pittance of the revenue he generates for his boss.

Now, what if other players followed suit and copped a half a percent of the market each? Nike is right because Lavar Ball is making dudes think about what they can do.

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If you read what I wrote I wasn't attacking the idea. I was attacking the execution and the #blackexcellence blind ass cheerleading that happens on this site. I'm all for folks building a company for themselves. I've done that for myself and help folks on the side with a bit of consulting on how to do it. That's how I'm helping out the folks. There is a process to building out an idea. It ain't just about throwing a concept out there and screaming you're going to earn billions or going on TV shows to say outlandish shyt for attention. Behind all of that needs to be structure in order to bring all of that to reality in a way that allows his son to have a check after he's done with the NBA otherwise it's just throwing money down a pit. Bron is the perfect example of how to use their resources in a way that benefits him and his family then creating something on his own. Maverick was interning at Nike to learn what goes on behind the scenes. Once he was ready they starting taking over. Rich Paul is snagging free agents right and left for Bron's agency after he worked under Leon Rose. He didn't just claim he was gone take shyt over and own everything. He and his friends understood they needed to learn the backend. You mention market research and product design which means I know you understand what I'm saying and I bet you that LaVar doesn't. How he's going about all of this is terrible, but I hope it does work out because I'd hate to see it become a 30 for 30.

I feel you, but we don't know what he's doing or not doing. So, we can't fairly criticize his business sense since that's something you don't see until years down the line in many cases.

But what I do see is someone who understands ownership versus being an employee. Someone who gets that a 100 people buying the package you own is better than selling the package to 1000 people as a worker and getting a point.

Nothing wrong with doing recon work on the inside of someone else's business and taking the information for personal enterprise. I do that and advise others to do the same. The issue is when people become comfortable and start believing in Disney Land and forgetting that we came there to learn how they make the Mickey Mouse hats, so we can duplicate for our own business.

I just like that dude studied the game and is piecing the game together for the benefit of his family. That's commendable and we need more black people doing that as opposed to hoping to get put on forever.

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Lol nikka you not rich. If you were you wouldn't be in here. You may have more than me :hubie: that don't bother me though. I'm just saying y'all been on lavar nuts for a minute. I don't know if it's good or bad what he's doing but Ima give him a :ehh: and keep it moving. Meanwhile y'all talking like it's bound to fail and the dumbest move to make. Y'all don't know that. The coli DEFINITELY ain't got the answers but many of the posters on here talk like they do. I play it cool always playa.

How do you know who has the answers or not? The Coli isnt some monolithic entity...There are regular human beings on here from all walks of life and experiences that chat on here all day. Yep, there are a lot of liars, trolls and pretenders here, but thats how real life is as well, right?

There really are some people who post here for fun that are heavy into entertainment, business, lifestyle and even sports - I've had the opportunity to connect with some behind the scenes. So, yes, some people here do have the answers. You can tell who knows what they are talking about in some of these posts actually.

In business, its not about necessarily reinventing the wheel to become successful, and remember, if you have to do mental gymnastics to understand something or come up with wild reasons why it will work, its probably a bad idea.

Nobody is saying that he wont sell some product on his own - everybody does that. Marshawn Lynch has Beastmode gear right now. People have been doing this for years. People are arguing that flipping t-shirts and hats with a poor brand isn't going to make them a billion dollars, and investing your sons money to do it is sending it into an obvious black hole. Thats all.

This is a message board so people are going to disucss current events, and Lavar Ball is currently in the news. Its not deeper than that, like i literally could care less outside of this posts lol.
 

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But they only need a percentage, a small percentage at that, to buy into the brand. This is a mom and pop brand so far. If they got just one million people to pay $50 for a pair of shoes, they've made $50 million. AND they own it! And mind you, that's one million people in the world....out of billions of potential consumers all across the world.

It's the same thing in the music game. The guy whose indy only needs to sell a fraction of what the guy whose signed to the major has to sell to make the same money. And if the indy guy has a strong your following, he'll end up making a lot more. Why? Because he owns the package while your favorite rapper that you hear everyday on the radio is lucky to get a point on the package.

So, the guy who owns it, doesn't need everyone to like it. He just needs a small group to like it. The employee needs everyone to like it since he only gets paid a pittance of the revenue he generates for his boss.

Now, what if other players followed suit and copped a half a percent of the market each? Nike is right because Lavar Ball is making dudes think about what they can do.

Peace
While that sounds nice in theory, one million pairs is an extremely lofty goal. Go on etsy and you'll see plenty of people with better designs who are struggling to push any product at all. Its a saturated market and so far, Lavar is just pushing clothing that is gaudy and cheap looking and trying to charge a huge premium for it.

When you study successful businessmen, they had revolutionary ideas to invent something new or improve an existing product. Lavar is just producing shyt we have seen before and charging 500% of what people typically pay for it.
 

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How do you know who has the answers or not? The Coli isnt some monolithic entity...There are regular human beings on here from all walks of life and experiences that chat on here all day. Yep, there are a lot of liars, trolls and pretenders here, but thats how real life is as well, right?

There really are some people who post here for fun that are heavy into entertainment, business, lifestyle and even sports - I've had the opportunity to connect with some behind the scenes. So, yes, some people here do have the answers. You can tell who knows what they are talking about in some of these posts actually.

In business, its not about necessarily reinventing the wheel to become successful, and remember, if you have to do mental gymnastics to understand something or come up with wild reasons why it will work, its probably a bad idea.

Nobody is saying that he wont sell some product on his own - everybody does that. Marshawn Lynch has Beastmode gear right now. People have been doing this for years. People are arguing that flipping t-shirts and hats with a poor brand isn't going to make them a billion dollars, and investing your sons money to do it is sending it into an obvious black hole. Thats all.

This is a message board so people are going to disucss current events, and Lavar Ball is currently in the news. Its not deeper than that, like i literally could care less outside of this posts lol.
Aka I don't have the answers but I'm talking like I do :skip:. I don't know what makes a billion dollars and neither do you. So again, hop off that fams nuts and let them do them. shyt they already got you nikkas firmly planted on their jock with every move they make :pachaha:. And lol at a billion. First of all what fukking NBA player is a billionaire? Can Ball make millions? Anything is possible. If he does I bet you and your corny logic will just say (damn props to him, black excellence) or some corny fake typical coli shyt. You won't address your wack ass mindstate. :camby:
 

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Aka I don't have the answers but I'm talking like I do :skip:. I don't know what makes a billion dollars and neither do you. So again, hop off that fams nuts and let them do them. shyt they already got you nikkas firmly planted on their jock with every move they make :pachaha:. And lol at a billion. First of all what fukking NBA player is a billionaire? Can Ball make millions? Anything is possible. If he does I bet you and your corny logic will just say (damn props to him, black excellence) or some corny fake typical coli shyt. You won't address your wack ass mindstate. :camby:

Lol, you're clearly stuck in your ways in the saddest way possible. Again, how can you keep telling me what I don't know will make money or not?

You're like that old guy who came up with the dumbass board game that the investors told him just wasn't going to work, and he spent his and his families life savings on and wouldn't listen - and sad, he was a black guy at that. Should I say he is #blackexcellence because he made a stupid decision?

Keep thinking its something special to own 100% of your bad decision making, and you will keep being where you are.

Ball will make millions, in the NBA, as an employee of the NBA. They wontb make millions selling bad t-shirts and terrible shoes, but may make billions doing something we don't know about yet.

Why do you think I am adverse to Lavar Ball making a billion? That literally doesnt have an effect on my life either way...But if something is wack and a bad idea, you say it, doesnt matter the skin color. Should I let my brother spend his money going to the studio and making raps even though he raps like the dude with the spinners around his neck rapping to kids? Naw, I would say "Youre wack son"...nothing wrong with that.

I can tell you this - you will never make a billion not listening to anyone. Not everything is negativity, its leverage and listening to/working with the RIGHT people.

My "corny ass logic" has put me, my family, and people that I used to watch on TV while living in the slum, businesses and opportunities that I never thought I could have. See things I never thought I would see. YOU can make millions too (and no, Im not saying I have hit 1m yet) - Whats your idea? Outside of caping for Balls bad idea. Dont sell yourself short either.
 

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:russell:I'm good over here. Aim that at the grown ass nikkas on here still living at they mama house, not me. I'm good :myman:
 

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:russell:I'm good over here. Aim that at the grown ass nikkas on here still living at they mama house, not me. I'm good :myman:

Ok, and do you expect me to be mad at that?

Those grown people you are referring to probably have no ambition. You sound like you do.

If you're so good, and I hope you are, you are probably looking to create something special or a business or something one day too. Don't let nobody sucker you into investng or pushing something generic and dumb, and accept criticism and tough questions.

For the record, no hate on you nor LB and his kids. Go shine!
 

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While that sounds nice in theory, one million pairs is an extremely lofty goal. Go on etsy and you'll see plenty of people with better designs who are struggling to push any product at all. Its a saturated market and so far, Lavar is just pushing clothing that is gaudy and cheap looking and trying to charge a huge premium for it.

When you study successful businessmen, they had revolutionary ideas to invent something new or improve an existing product. Lavar is just producing shyt we have seen before and charging 500% of what people typically pay for it.

moving a million units of anything is a huge fukking challenge

50 million dollars is a lot of money...

thousands of businesses take decades to hit that milestone

for all of the people talking up BBB..have any of them actually backed up their words and bought a bbb product?
 
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