Latins In Shambles Learning That The English Language Is More Sophisticated Than Their Own.

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Spain and Portugal have been culturally linked for so long ... those two had to have a treaty to split South America among themselves and their colonies grew up together.


If Haitians are Latino, why aren't Louisiana Creoles and French Canadians Latino?
Becuz Louisiana and Canada aren’t located in what is considered Latin America. Other countries you mentioned like Jamaica and Trinidad are in Latin America but they aren’t considered Latino becuz they don’t speak a Romance language
 

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Spain and Portugal have been culturally linked for so long ... those two had to have a treaty to split South America among themselves and their colonies grew up together.


If Haitians are Latino, why aren't Louisiana Creoles and French Canadians Latino?
To be fair, part of my family is of Creole descent and I have seen some forms listing Creoles under Latino/Hispanic.

I have Latin/Hispanic ancestry and a Hispanic sounding last name, which isn’t uncommon amongst Creole people.

However, I don’t consider myself Latino and none of the Haitians that I know consider themselves Latino.

I can’t believe this thread degenerated the way it did over some stupid shyt. :heh:

Ya’ll act like Haitians actually give a damn about being considered Latino or not. :dead:
 

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That guy is clearly ignorant on this subject matter. Don't bother wasting your time.

@concise Google is your friend.


To begin, where is Latin America? Geographically, the term refers to a set of nations belonging to the regions of North America, the Caribbean, Central America, and South America. Culturally and linguistically, Latin America is defined as nations in the Americas and the Caribbean whose residents predominantly speak Spanish or Portuguese—two of the many languages descended from Latin.


The term Latin America was first used in an 1856 conference called "Initiative of America: Idea for a Federal Congress of the Republics" (Iniciativa de la América. Idea de un Congreso Federal de las Repúblicas),[8] by the Chilean politician Francisco Bilbao. The term was further popularized by French emperor Napoleon III's government in the 1860s as Amérique latine to justify France's military involvement in the Second Mexican Empire and to include French-speaking territories in the Americas such as French Canada, French Louisiana, French Guiana, Martinique, Guadeloupe, Haiti and the French Antillean Creole Caribbean islands Saint Lucia and Dominica, in the larger group of countries where Spanish and Portuguese languages prevailed




Napoleon, a man who spoke French, included French Canada and French Louisiana as parts of Latin America, yet some monolingual people from the USA on thecoli tell me it shouldn't be.

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so what is refined english breh.......you gonna come through or....?

I am not able to find something that depicts what I'm talking about at the moment. The best thing I could find were conversations with venerable writers and academics. But "intellectual" speak doesn't quite touch on what I'm talking about either. I'm going to continue to keep my eye out though because I really do want to post an example.

The best way that I can describe it is like the linguistic version of jazz improvisation. Which is why the above videos of writers and academics miss the mark because many of the conversations they have, they've been briefed of the subject matter or given questions beforehand so they have time to prepare responses.

Which is why, when I have heard people speak in this manner, it has been in person. These people are brilliant with their command of the English language, and like jazz artist, are able to breakdown words and phrases and use them in non-traditional avant garde ways. Ways in which that are not natural to the average person. So what you get is this colorful linguistic mosaic that's works beautifully.

I will admit, I have mostly been in elite white spaces to observe this. Which is why I said most Americans have probably never even heard English spoken in this way.

Black people who were known to speak like this were people like Toni Morrison, James Baldwin, Maya Angelou...actually a lot of poets speak in this manner. So you can actually probably extend this to some rappers.

But again, it's hard to find a video that accurately depict this sort of dialogue. And when you have two or more people in conversation who are great at this, the type of sparring that they do when they recognize all parties have a majestic command of English is orgasmic.
 

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Napoleon, a man who spoke French, included French Canada and French Louisiana as parts of Latin America, yet some monolingual people from the USA on thecoli tell me it shouldn't be.

:ehh:

Not speaking on French North America but Tejanos and Chicanos, spanish speakers who have been in Texas and the western territories for hundreds of years, don't consider themselves Latino. However, some might identify as Hispanic.
 

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Spain and Portugal have been culturally linked for so long ... those two had to have a treaty to split South America among themselves and their colonies grew up together.


If Haitians are Latino, why aren't Louisiana Creoles and French Canadians Latino?

Because Lousiana Creoles and French Canadians both still have outside influence from Anglo culture that Haiti does not. The only major European influences on Haiti are France and to a much much lesser extent Spain, because theres hundreds of thousands of Haitians who can legit speak or at least understand Spanish as a second language and the island that Haiti sits on is literally called La Hispaniola. So they're definitely Latin based 100 percent.

French Canada is a sub culture within a larger Anglo Saxon state, same as Lousiana Creoles.
 
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