Latins In Shambles Learning That The English Language Is More Sophisticated Than Their Own.

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:mjlol: Kreyol is not a version of French. foh.

2. If Haitians are Latinos because they speak a Latin derived language, what of the French Speaking Canadians or Cajuns and Creoles in Louisiana? :mjlol:
Yes it is tf :dahell:

They are not considered “Latino” and that’s not part of Latin America research the terms my man you can start by watching the video with that Haitian scholar posted here
 

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Yes it is tf :dahell:

They are not considered “Latino” and that’s not part of Latin America research the terms my man you can start by watching the video with that Haitian scholar posted here

I follow her on IG, seen it already, don't agree with it.


2nd, do you speak French or any creole? :jbhmm:
 

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Since you love Bertrhude so much, here she is saying the same thing I'm saying about French and Kreyol being 2 different languages.





 
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@Yehuda Yeah, pretty much. But what you posted is good food for thought.

I'm not sure about the word count though. English is said to have 500-600k words. And I would've swore that Russian, Chinese, and Arabic had more words than that. The eastern languages are definitely more complex.

And I think Borges in the OP was speaking to this part in reference to the "fine" aspects of English. I'm not an linguist, so not sure if other words in other languages are comparable.
so what is refined english breh.......you gonna come through or....?
 

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And I think Borges in the OP was speaking to this part in reference to the "fine" aspects of English. I'm not an linguist, so not sure if other words in other languages are comparable.

Do we count “run” the verb and “run” the noun as one word or two? What about “run” as in the long run of a play on Broadway?

According to a recent NPR article, “run” has at least 645 different meanings!

You mean polysemous words? Polysemy is common across languages

For instance

Firstly, we remind you that polysemy refers to existence of various meaning in a single word. A polysemic word express a certain meaning, depending on the context and the situation it refers to.

Furthermore, grammatically speaking, a polysemic word can work as a noun, an adjective and a verb at the same time, thus referring to very different concepts. As Spanish has many of them, we offer here an overview of the ones you will most llikely hear from Spanish speakers. (...)

TRAJE

Meanings = suit / I brought (1st person singular of past simple)

Examples:

Compré un traje muy elegante para la fiesta de tu cumpleaños = I bought a very elegant suit for your birthday party
Traje una tarta recién hecha = I brought a freshly baked cake. (...)

In addition, you can also find sentences containing twice a polysemic word. These sentences can be very funny and sometimes lead Spanish learners to misunderstanding.

So, let’s see some examples:

Te espero sentada en el banco al lado del banco = I am waiting for you on the bench next to the bank.
Estás muy mono con el mono = You look so cute with the overalls
Traje tu traje de boda = I brought your wedding suit
El cura hizo una cura de reposo = The priest took a rest cure. (...)

Polysemic words in Spanish: Part II

(...) Most verbs in French language are polysemous- they have more than one sense. In this study, we have decided to consider the polysemous words/expressions in some French parts of speech.

Polysemy in French Verbs

Verbs are said to be action words or doing words, in fact, verbs can be regarded as actions that are embedded in grammatical structure. Some French verbs can be used polysemously; this is because French as a language is full of expressions. Some of the French verbs they are polysemous are the following:

Faire et se faire, passer, avoir, mettre, plaindre et se plaindre, dire

Le verbe ‘faire’ can be used as ( to make or do or worry to indicate time): for instance:

verbsentencesTranslation
FaireJe fais mon travail.I do my work
FaireIls font un projet.They make a project.
FaireIl fait froid.It is cold.
FaireIl fait chaud.It is hot.
Se faireIl se faire à la mort de son oncle.He is worried about the death of his uncle.
Se faireElle se faire à mémoriser le poème.She is worried to memorize the poem.

Discussion

The verb ‘faire’ can be used differently with distinct interpretations and meanings. The 1 st , 2 nd and 3 rd have the same function. This is the first phase of its usage; the ordinary application of the verb (connotation) such as to do or to make. The 4th sentence depicts another usage of the verb ‘faire’; the polysemy is based on (weather), il fait chaud and il fait froid and sentences that tell us about weather ; it is hot and it is cold. From the given sentences, we can see that the ‘verb’ ‘faire’ can be used polysemously. Considering a very close usage of the verb ‘faire’ in a reflexive form (verbs pronominaux) it has a different meaning from the two cited examples. Il se fait a la mort de son oncle and il se fait a mémoriser le poème.

A critical study of polysemy: a perspective of French language and its parts of speech
 

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There are so many uneducated people on thecoli. :mjlol: if you don't know something it's best to keep your mouth shut. Do you even know how the word Latino even came about? The French came up with the term. Latino isn't based on race. Latino is someone who speaks a Romance Language in the America's. So yes Haitians are Latinos. French is a romance language.
 
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There are so many uneducated people on thecoli. :mjlol: if you don't know something it's best to keep your mouth shut. Do you even know how the word Latino even came about? The French came up with the term. Latino isn't based on race. Latino is someone who speaks a Romance Language in the America's. So yes Haitians are Latinos. French is a romance language.


Irrelevant.

Words evolve and we've moved way pas that, like scientific words describing the handicapped becoming slurs and Katrina evacuees/refugees.
 

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Oh mais ferme la mon cher.
Tu pense que la langue Anglaise est refiné?
:mjlol: Tu me faire rire. T’est un vrai rigolo G.
L’espagnol c’est chic même mon français est chic comparé a ton Anglais barbarique Américanisé :scust:

Romance languages the GOAT Euro languages :blessed:

El lenguaje de barbaros Germánicos que ni se bañaban en sus cuevas llenas de putrefacción y pestes al lado de lobos salvajes mas refinado que las lenguas de Romance? Patético
 

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Haitian Creole is not a version of French. It has some shared words but different syntax, different verb conjugations, etc.




this is nonsense thought up by clowns who are insulated by academia. If Haitians are Latino, then so are Jamaicans, St Lucians, Trinidadians, etc.


side note ... there's really no North America or South America, it's all just 1 America :hubie:

All those other countries were British colonies with little to no lingusitic and religious roots to Rome.

Haiti was a French colony that gained independence and created a new language based on French, which itself was evolved from Latin. They also are largely part of the Roman Catholic church, just like other Latinos, which the British islands arent.

If Brazilians are Latino (they are) so are Haitians. They aint Hispanic but they are Latino

Jamaicans, Trinis, Guayanese etc all speak English as a first language or English Creole and they're mostly protestants.

Even Haitian music like Kompa is more closely related to Bachata and Salsa than it would be to anything from the English islands. People just lump them together with Jamaicans and them cause they mostly Black too but culturally their European roots are Latino
 
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Both points are wrong kreyol is a version of French

Kodak just spoke on how he was understood in Paris and understood them too

Haitians are Latino because they speak a Romance/Latin derived language. Jamaicans speak English how could they be Latino. English is a Germanic language.
School has failed people… I don’t want to get into this whole concept of race and culture with people, cause it just keeps dividing… but u are accurate
 

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All those other countries were British colonies with little to no lingusitic and religious roots to Rome.

Haiti was a French colony that gained independence and created a new language based on French, which itself was evolved from Latin. They also are largely part of the Roman Catholic church, just like other Latinos, which the British islands arent.

If Brazilians are Latino (they are) so are Haitians. They aint Hispanic but they are Latino

Jamaicans, Trinis, Guayanese etc all speak English as a first language or English Creole and they're mostly protestants.

Even Haitian music like Kompa is more closely related to Bachata and Salsa than it would be to anything from the English islands. People just lump them together with Jamaicans and them cause they mostly Black too but culturally their European roots are Latino
Somebody gets it!
 

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All those other countries were British colonies with little to no lingusitic and religious roots to Rome.

Haiti was a French colony that gained independence and created a new language based on French, which itself was evolved from Latin. They also are largely part of the Roman Catholic church, just like other Latinos, which the British islands arent.

If Brazilians are Latino (they are) so are Haitians. They aint Hispanic but they are Latino

Jamaicans, Trinis, Guayanese etc all speak English as a first language or English Creole and they're mostly protestants.

Even Haitian music like Kompa is more closely related to Bachata and Salsa than it would be to anything from the English islands. People just lump them together with Jamaicans and them cause they mostly Black too but culturally their European roots are Latino

Spain and Portugal have been culturally linked for so long ... those two had to have a treaty to split South America among themselves and their colonies grew up together.


If Haitians are Latino, why aren't Louisiana Creoles and French Canadians Latino?
 

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School has failed people… I don’t want to get into this whole concept of race and culture with people, cause it just keeps dividing… but u are accurate



Is Celine Dion a Latin American? She grew up in the Americas speaking a Latin language as her first language, correct?
 
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