Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

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Low-key you guys have a core. Trier and Knox on the wings. Knox is cheat code size.
If you can pair KP and Mitch at the 4-5 :whoo:

Doing the right thing and tanking for a top 3 pick. Anyone out of Zion, Barrett, Reddish, or Morant will do.
If you guys could get Kyrie, Durant, or Butler :ohlawd:


All of those except the last one have a very high likelihood of happening. And last one is still a solid possibility. Selling the farm for AD would seem questionable honestly. Depends on the package.

Trust the process, brehs.
 

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Has Frank Nicotine ever had a Triple Double at the Garden? :jbhmm:

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DSJ showed out :blessed:
 

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David Fizdale put me at ease last week pointing to the future and saying that Enes Kanter didn't fit the brand of basketball that was intended for the future of the team. It was the type of flex that we hadn't seen and I figured that was that. But within a week Kanter was back out there as a bad deficit only got worse. Oh you want to hear about the game? The Knicks lost by 24 points to the Mavericks 90-114; their defense which had shown some signs of improvement was pushover status again; and the offense had positively no flow to it. If not for some solid play out of the rookies, this game would have been unwatchable. Which brings me back to Fiz...the selfishness that you recognized recently, the poor fitting pieces that you acknowledged don't fit the play style you want to play and a culture where a player can get rewarded for crying to the media and refusing to be part of the team if he can't play...it's all circling back again. Here's one thing that you don't want to be in NY, soft and that's what Fizdale looked like to me last night. Let's get to some catharsis:

Burke: Trey Burke's 16 point 3 assist performance was marred by Dennis Smith Jr's triple double and the lack of fluid offense. Burke played 32 minutes as the primary ball handler in a game where the Knicks only scored 90 points and isolation basketball dominated. The 7/14 from the field is nice, just 1 TO is good too but he had too many possessions that fell into old, bad habits of pounding the rock. He did do well to take advantage of a subpar defender for points, but the lack of creation and ball movement started at the top of the key in this one.

THJ: Tim Hardaway Jr's promising run of play hit a self-constructed brick wall in this one. Hardaway got away from everything that's been working for him in recent games in route to a line of 6 points, 3 assists and 3 rebounds on 2/11 shooting and 1/5 from three over 28 minutes. The aggressive trips to the basket were gone which meant just one FTA; impatience about getting his shots up meant shot selection was bad; and on defense we got to watch Wes Mathews knock down 5/9 three pointers while rocking a Cobra Kai headband that just made it more embarrassing. If the Knicks gave Allonzo Trier ALL of Timmy's minutes, I'd be completely fine with Fizdale's decision.

Knox: Aggressive Knox was a sight to see last night, but settling for jumpers Knox peaked out a little too often on a night that the three's refused to fall. Knox put up 17 points and 5 rebounds on 6/16 shooting from the field and 1/6 from three. So we've got a 5/10 performance inside the arc and also a team leading 5 FTA's. I like that Knox can pull it from anywhere or drive on you and I love that he salvaged his scoring by being aggressive. But for now that jumper is going to be the difference between his high quality games and the ones that just show promise.

Lance: It was a very Lance Thomas performance. What I mean by that is he played 16 minutes for just 5 points and 1 rebound but was typically only the third or fourth most frustrating player on the floor to watch.

Vonleh: So the size issue at Center pops up once in awhile for Noah Vonleh and it did in this game. Jordan had moments where he just looked to big. This may have tied in to Vonleh's low 14 minutes out there for 2 points and 5 boards on 1/3 shooting. Here's my problem with the cut into his minutes. If anyone has truly earned their playing time while sitting on an expiring contract, it's this guy. Even if you dislike his game, showcasing him a week out from the deadline just makes sense. He wasn't good in this game but he actually does deserve better as opposed to certain cry babies.

Allen: Kadeem Allen is the first PG we have that looks like he won't turn in uneven performances nightly. Part of that is just that he doesn't do too much offensively and puts in a good effort defensively, it's nothing special right now but it's refreshing to see. The newcomer posted 6 points,3 assists and 2 rebounds in 18 minutes on 1/2 shooting with 4 trips to the free throw line. Allen's defense was a sight for sore eyes spelling the starters and overall he looks like a serviceable player. Honestly when Frank is back, I'd go Frank and Allen as the PG rotation while living with the results. Allen's positive plus/minus over 18 minutes in a game the Knicks lost by 24 points isn't something to gas up but it warrants mentioning too.

Trier: Allonzo Trier made the most of his touches and had a pretty solid performance although his usual blemishes stuck around. Zo put up 11 points, 4 boards and 2 assists over 19 minutes of play while shooting 3/5 from the field and 5/5 from the free throw line. Scoring more than 2 points per shot attempt is pretty impressive; I shouted out Allen's +1 in a 24 point loss but Trier played a minute longer and put up a +5 which is kind of astounding; and while he only clocked assists we got more glimpses of the two-man game that Iso-Zo and Mitchell Robinson have developed. On the negative end, Trier's passing creativity is still fairly exclusive to Mitch without rewarding wings nearly as much and some defensive lapses are just to be expected. But this was a good performance overall.

Dotson: Damyean Dotson's offense has cooled off quite a bit lately, he's shot better than 40% just once in the past six games. Last night was another tough one going 2/7 from the field to put up 5 points and 2 rebounds in 20 minutes. Fiz gets props for the fact that in spite of shooting struggles, Dot has played 20 minutes or more consistently regardless and that comes down to his contributions as a defensive player, off ball mover and willing passer. The team tends to just move better while Dotson is out there. That said, his upside looks a lot more promising when he's in a rhythm and canning his jumpers. Some combination of bad luck, fatigue and less touches has him trying to find that rhythm and get back to peak play.

Mario: Mario Hezonja has been one of the only consistent bright spots in recent play. Mario went 4/8 to pump in 13 points, 2 rebounds, an assist and 2 steals over 32 minutes of play. The stats are fairly pedestrian but the effort is just strong. Hezonja's decision making has come miles from the beginning of the season and while he's still not a positive sum defender, the improvements on that end are also tangible. Part of this is that he had no where to go but up from his early season struggles but another part of this is just a player looking much more comfortable in the system he's a part of and the units that he's surrounded by. I think 30+ minutes is probably too much still, but I like what I'm seeing and do think he's playing himself into a more consistent role within the rotation.

Mitch: Thank you Mitchell Robinson for making these games digestable enough that I can sit down and write recaps. Mitch was 2/2 for 4 points, 7 boards and 4 blocks in 24 minutes; the most he's played since returning from injury and fourth most he's been out there all season. It seems like the Trier lob threat has finally woken everyone else up to the fact that they literally just have to throw the ball up high and toward the paint for a chance at an assist while Mitch is playing. The ball doesn't go into the air without Robinson trying to get those mitts on it. The shot blocking and mobility on display has been discussed all too much but let me go a step further and say that I see Rudy Gobert upside here. But there are flaws to mention. A lob threat isn't as big a problem if he misses his FT's and Mitch was 0/4 from the line. Robinson also fumbled some passes that allowed defenders to get to him before he could rise and finish. I also think the weight room will have a tangible effect on Robinson's ability to finish through contact and get and-ones where the free throw is a bonus. But man...If you're only watching Knicks games in chunks to maintain sanity then start when Mitch gets on the floor and stop when he leaves.

Kanter: From pouting on the sideline; to demanding a trade if he can't play; to publicly airing out Fizdale and the organization; to NYKTerryandTray tweeting from the game that Kanter SAT OUT WARM-UPs; to goading fans into chanting for him; to kissing the logo; to air balling his first shot; to the Knicks deficit only getting worse with him out there....everything about Enes Kanter is phony and self-serving. That goes right down to the way that he plays basketball every night out. He is the embodiment of fake hustle. I have nothing to say about how he played last night, get him off this roster. You opted into this for the paycheck. You show no support for your teammates if you're not getting your numbers. Don't disrespect the arena or our legends by pretending to care. Kanter's a fraud.

Fizdale: I had to use mouthwash and hand sanitizer because I said and typed Coach Fizdale last week only to watch him give in to Kanter, some beat writers and Dirk Nowitzki fans last night. If Fizdale can't keep a subpar player on an expiring contract under control, why would I trust him to keep things in order with a top five pick, KP and potentially another max FA added into the mix? I'd much rather have watched Vonleh at least play defense than Kanter lumber around and the choice to give in to a malcontent just starts looking like a microcosm of never benching players that are forcing their own offense or playing lazy defense. All of my skepticism is back and stronger than ever after a feel-good week where I finally saw our coach putting his foot down only to have Marc Gasol flashbacks.
 

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If Knicks miss out on Zion Williamson, i hope their 2nd option is Ja Morant. Knicks need a point guard and Ja Morant will most likely be in the top 5. He's the best point guard in college beside Darius Garland. Ja reminds me of De'Aaron Fox a little bit. He just need to work on his turnovers.

Im sorry to say this but Ntilikina isnt going to be the point guard yall hope he turns out. I liked him but i came to the conclusion that he's not it. He may be good as a backup but not a starter. He lacks the alpha mentality.

RJ Barrett? We got Knox

Cam Reddish? Ehhh...... Whatever

I dont post much in here. I usually just lurk
 

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I think if Frank, Knox, Mitch got more consistent minutes without exhaustion or foul trouble we would've had more wins. I'm glad they're young and that hasn't happened.
 

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If Frank turns out to be a really solid glue guy, I'm happy.

No regrets.

I don't think he's ever going to be an allstar but I'm rooting for my son, regardless. I want to see him on this roster long term.

I'm still holding out hope that Timmy, in a much more suitable role, will remain with us and show his true value giving support to rehabbed KP, Knox, Draft pick & whoever we sign.

Knox is going to be a really great offensive player. I'm so happy we drafted him. Defensively, however, he shows less defensive awareness/effort than rookie Melo. I'm all in anyway and I think his offense in his prime will be a scary sight.

Trier makes me feel some type of way about alot of the brehs who shyt on Timmy. He's absolutely on a way better contract but I don't see him, at 23 yrs old, showing more potential as a better all around player than Timmy and if Trier were in Timmy's position being forced to be no. 1 option, I think he'd look terrible. I Don't want to see him go, though, it's just tugging at my emotional strings a I'm a Timmy stan.

Mitch, in my opinion, is worth more than Knox today. It's scary how good this kid could be. The way our team has made draft picks in the second round, I'd be confident enough to say that 2md round picks in our FO's position is worth as much as a late 1st rounder in most other teams hands.

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And even with all of the above...I am absolutely over watching this team lose this season. I can't wait until this "tanking" shyt or whatever the fukk it is is over. I just can't stand it.
 

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@storyteller couldn't agree more about Kanter. Shyt is corny, and the loudest fans that attend games are cornballs who know nothing about basketball. Get rid of him asap, so that Fizdale doesn't become the villain to the public like he was in Memphis.

:comeon: @ kissing the logo...gimme a fukkin break. shyt has been a show with this guy for the last couple months. he'll talk to anybody who'll listen.
 
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