Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

[RickyGQ]

Man..let's talk about something that doesn't draw in trolls. Which players would you want on a max contract and who are your top picks. This is hypothetical too, I know most of these cats are gonna re-sign or would look for a winning situation but we're a good location and a few players ought to slip while everyone is waiting or chasing the top names.

1a. Kawhi - Edge to Kawhi because he's logged a lot less minute and is younger by a couple of years.
1b. KD- No explanation necessary.

(Strong consideration but may depend on our draft situation)
2a. Khris - 27 yrs old, 4 apg his last 3 healthy seasons, one of the best defensive wings I've watched.
2b. Klay - similar to Khris but hasn't shown as much on the ball in terms of playmaking or creating his own shot over extended periods.

3a. Kyrie - Age wise, talent wise and all of that makes sense. The only reason I don't talk about him is that I can't imagine him leaving such a good situation in Boston. But in a dream scenario where he's really trying to come through, the idea of his attacking PnR's with KP is nutso.
3b. Kemba - so good this season that you have to consider it if he is willing plus he's a better defender than he gets credit for. Kemba PnR with KP would be unstoppable until Kemba declines.

(for all of these dudes, if we draft certain players it makes more sense. Ja Morant + Klay or Khris works really well but makes zero sense with Kemba or Irving. Getting one of the Duke boys or Nas would make adding Klay or Khris less important by a good amount unless we move THJ for additional cap space).

The desperation signings...I think the Noah waive and stretch means these guys will NEED to add somebody. If the guys above don't sign and the Knicks are desperate for a splash, I'd try to grab somebody that can be a legitimate veteran leader on a shorter contract that isn't max. Perry and Mills get to tell Dolan we got somebody plus there's cap space preserved to take on an unwanted contract for more assets. The next two names are desperation moves and I'd only offer them limited contracts, so we probably don't land these dudes under the circumstances that I'd actually take them under but it's an interesting discussion to look at what happens to that cap space if Pills is left holding the bag (I like the roll over cap concept but don't think it realistically happens).

4. Horford - Leadership ability plus taking a weapon away from one of the best teams in the East and a division rival. Plus Al is probably at the age where a max contract is less likely and you might even get a years cut.

5. Dragic - Stop gap PG who would be good enough to be number 2 for KP while we figure out the future point guard situation and again, old enough to not command max money or years on his next contract. He'd be a nice mentor for Frank who I'd still be pushing to develop as a mismatch PG. With Burke and Mudiay walking, this would be a big upgrade for the short term while Frank gets the extra time that both Mudiay and Burke needed to find their roles.

Great list. Although I’m most intrigued by what Klay would look like without Steph and Draymond (and now KD). He’s definitely hit higher highs than Khris offensively but i understand the need for a playmaker.

 

[DPresidential]

When you gonna tell Tim you really are his pops?

You can set that boy right with all that unconditional love you got for him

Man...I just don't want him to not be his greatest self. I need his mother to tell him

And Miles..., you'supposed to be my breh.

Who is your fav current Knick?

 

[storyteller]

Great list. Although I’m most intrigued by what Klay would look like without Klay and Draymond (and now KD). He’s definitely hit higher highs than Khris offensively but i understand the need for a playmaker.

Yeah, that's the one pair that I'm really having a tough time picking one over the other. Khris has the playmaking but Klay has had complete blackout nights (60 points while holding the ball for 90 seconds is one of the craziest stats I've seen). I've been leaning a bit more toward Khris just off the fact that Fizdale's offense is so light, but Klay putting up those monster quarters and games as the third option and sometimes even fourth guy seeing the ball makes him a bit of a wildcard. I'm surprised there's not more hype about him.

 

[Miles Davis]

Man...I just don't want him to not be his greatest self. I need his mother to tell him

And Miles..., you'supposed to be my breh.

Who is your fav current Knick?

Frank and what about it?

 

[DPresidential]

Frank and what about it?

Nothing...


Nothing...at...all.

 

[Miles Davis]

Yeah, that's the one pair that I'm really having a tough time picking one over the other. Khris has the playmaking but Klay has had complete blackout nights (60 points while holding the ball for 90 seconds is one of the craziest stats I've seen). I've been leaning a bit more toward Khris just off the fact that Fizdale's offense is so light, but Klay putting up those monster quarters and games as the third option and sometimes even fourth guy seeing the ball makes him a bit of a wildcard. I'm surprised there's not more hype about him.

Yea, that’s a difficult toss up. Klay’s biggest strength in addition being able to black out is he doesn’t need to touch the ball as much. But we’ve seen him disappear for stretches not that it’s uncommon.

Nothing...


Nothing...at...all.

 

[Ironman]

Man..let's talk about something that doesn't draw in trolls. Which players would you want on a max contract and who are your top picks. This is hypothetical too, I know most of these cats are gonna re-sign or would look for a winning situation but we're a good location and a few players ought to slip while everyone is waiting or chasing the top names.

1a. Kawhi - Edge to Kawhi because he's logged a lot less minute and is younger by a couple of years.
1b. KD- No explanation necessary.

(Strong consideration but may depend on our draft situation)
2a. Khris - 27 yrs old, 4 apg his last 3 healthy seasons, one of the best defensive wings I've watched.
2b. Klay - similar to Khris but hasn't shown as much on the ball in terms of playmaking or creating his own shot over extended periods.

3a. Kyrie - Age wise, talent wise and all of that makes sense. The only reason I don't talk about him is that I can't imagine him leaving such a good situation in Boston. But in a dream scenario where he's really trying to come through, the idea of his attacking PnR's with KP is nutso.
3b. Kemba - so good this season that you have to consider it if he is willing plus he's a better defender than he gets credit for. Kemba PnR with KP would be unstoppable until Kemba declines.

(for all of these dudes, if we draft certain players it makes more sense. Ja Morant + Klay or Khris works really well but makes zero sense with Kemba or Irving. Getting one of the Duke boys or Nas would make adding Klay or Khris less important by a good amount unless we move THJ for additional cap space).

The desperation signings...I think the Noah waive and stretch means these guys will NEED to add somebody. If the guys above don't sign and the Knicks are desperate for a splash, I'd try to grab somebody that can be a legitimate veteran leader on a shorter contract that isn't max. Perry and Mills get to tell Dolan we got somebody plus there's cap space preserved to take on an unwanted contract for more assets. The next two names are desperation moves and I'd only offer them limited contracts, so we probably don't land these dudes under the circumstances that I'd actually take them under but it's an interesting discussion to look at what happens to that cap space if Pills is left holding the bag (I like the roll over cap concept but don't think it realistically happens).

4. Horford - Leadership ability plus taking a weapon away from one of the best teams in the East and a division rival. Plus Al is probably at the age where a max contract is less likely and you might even get a years cut.

5. Dragic - Stop gap PG who would be good enough to be number 2 for KP while we figure out the future point guard situation and again, old enough to not command max money or years on his next contract. He'd be a nice mentor for Frank who I'd still be pushing to develop as a mismatch PG. With Burke and Mudiay walking, this would be a big upgrade for the short term while Frank gets the extra time that both Mudiay and Burke needed to find their roles.

If we can somehow convince Kawhi to come here....Frank, Kawhi, KP and Mitch at the 4 my goodness

 

[Miles Davis]

Supposedly the Suns inquiring about Frank too. Knicks Trade Rumors: Suns Target Frank Ntilikina to Pair with Devin Booker

The suns really about to be on a come up, especially with this next draft. The landscape of the league gonna be interesting in a few years.

 

[ISO]

trade frank unless we gettin a star back

 

[Kitsch]

 

[storyteller]

Supposedly the Suns inquiring about Frank too. Knicks Trade Rumors: Suns Target Frank Ntilikina to Pair with Devin Booker

The suns really about to be on a come up, especially with this next draft. The landscape of the league gonna be interesting in a few years.

Memphis, Orlando and Suns have been named so far.

Fiz also said Lee probably plays tomorrow, which means someone's getting the boot from the rotation and he been cutting these two the most in recent games...let's see what happens.

 

[Miles Davis]

Memphis, Orlando and Suns have been named so far.



Fiz also said Lee probably plays tomorrow, which means someone's getting the boot from the rotation and he been cutting these two the most in recent games...let's see what happens.

Yea, until I see otherwise it’s lip service. I think we should be taking it easy with Knox and Mitch, them injuries are starting to worry me and I’d rather err on the side of caution.

 

[DPresidential]

I could see the Pacers refusing to tank and inquiring about Timmy and Dotson.

 

[RickyGQ]

Yeah, that's the one pair that I'm really having a tough time picking one over the other. Khris has the playmaking but Klay has had complete blackout nights (60 points while holding the ball for 90 seconds is one of the craziest stats I've seen). I've been leaning a bit more toward Khris just off the fact that Fizdale's offense is so light, but Klay putting up those monster quarters and games as the third option and sometimes even fourth guy seeing the ball makes him a bit of a wildcard. I'm surprised there's not more hype about him.

I think that’s based purely on the fact that nobody thinks Klay is leaving. (Except Lakers fans).

 

[Daniel.]

Dap me up for being a good man yall.

Copped courtside seats to Knicks/Blazers in January as a Christmas/bday present for the lady. Thing is, she don't give a fukk about basketball ....

BUT, she went out there last year to see her homegirl from college and fell in love with the city. It just so happened the Knicks are playing right around her bday so I got the tickets, a nice Airbnb in downtown Portland and flight out there for a few days to take in the city like she's been wanting to.

I'm gonna give her the tickets for Christmas and see the look on her face for Knicks tickets as a gift...until she puts 2 and 2 together and realizes them shyts are in Portland


That realization....