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Just realized we play Bostscum tonight, i womder who Frank will be defending. Id put him on Tatum or Kyrie, whoever has the hot hand 
Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20
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Trier is gonna be problem in the future. I really think the core young guys on our squad are dangerously underrated. I'm not even a knicks fan because it's my city but because of the potential and coaching staff.
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In a season where wins and losses are secondary, watching Frank become a catalyst for a comeback on both ends of the court and Kevin Knox hit clutch baskets down the stretch of a game is worth the price of admission. But a question arises for me as I look at the 36% from the field from the Knicks starting backcourt and consider how the Knicks played down the stretch. Are the vets going to be able to get out of the way when the kids are finding their confidence? Because Frank Ntilikina scored 7 points on three straight trips up the court and following a Nets time out, every other Knick took a shot before Frank got a legitimate opportunity to create. In spite of Knox and Frank sparking the second half run, the game closed out with a reliance on THJ or Burke attacking a Kanter pick and roll. I get why that will happen more often than not, but last night it shouldn't have. Wins and Losses don't matter, fair enough; then when the kids are hot let's find out how far they can carry this team regardless of the result.
Enes Kanter: I need to get this off my chest out the gate, Enes Kanter was a crucial presence inside on offense for the Knicks while also providing a frustrating inability to handle pick and roll defense on the other end. It's hard to get down on a player that gives you 29 and 10 on 12/18 from the field in 35 minutes but dear lord, it looked to me like the Nets gameplan was based on attacking Kanter. They started the game almost exclusively attacking the paint with no resistance. Even when Kanter does find himself in the right place on defense, he habitually doesn't get his hands up to challenge. Don't get me wrong, we NEED him. The half court offense is stagnant right now and his ability to post up plus grab boards for extra possessions is crucial (plus he really does set great screens for our guards); but this game certainly reminded me of the futility defenders face going over screens and relying on Kanter to slow down their man.
Frank Ntilikina: With a roar amid his third quarter run, Frank breathed life into a Knicks team that was looking lost and gave Knicks fans a vision of where is potential truly lies. He scored at all three levels; perimeter, midrange and driving into the lane. The youngster's defense was fantastic as well, forcing TO's in the form of steals, bad passes and offensive fouls drawn. 9 points, 4 assists, 3 steals and a rebound for Frank in 31 minutes where I just want to see the ball in his hands more often. One interesting wrinkle that popped up for a handful of plays was Frank passing out of the post. He made a couple of nice passes from that position but also almost handed the ball to Levert; it's an interesting place to get him more touches and looks though. His defense is a known commodity at this point, he's surpassed Lance Thomas as the most important piece of that puzzle. At 20 years old, the biggest question about Frank last night was why Fiz didn't put him on Caris Levert for the game deciding play.
Tim Hardaway: There are two ways to look at it; one is that the Knicks need somebody to shoulder the burden of scoring and Tim's ability to produce 29 is necessary. The other is that given 25 field goal attempt, the 29 points with no assists and 2 turnovers in 36 minutes is disappointing production for that many opportunities. It's hard to say where young players differing and Hardaway pressing begins but his lack of creation for anyone but himself and low efficiency places me in the latter group. On top of that, he got torched by Levert all night and his defense looks busier than it was actually impactful. Levert hung 28 points and 5 assists on just 13 attempts in their dual and 4 TO's doesn't change the fact that he owned what wound up being the game deciding match-up. One bit on that last attempt; I don't care if he challenged Levert at the rim because Tim never shoulda let him get a step with the ball in his right hand.
Lance Thomas: My 20 minutes rule was in full effect for Lance Thomas in this one. When Lance is on the floor for close to 20 minutes rather than 15, his inability to impact certain facets of the game starts to outshine his intangibles. 2 boards and 2 assists with no points on 4 attempts in 21 minutes; and he missed a completely wide open lay-up set up by Frank and a nice play drawn up from Fiz.
Burke: Trey Burke had a really nice season opener but this game was closer to his preseason struggles. 3 for 11 producing 8 points, 4 assists and 5 boards from Burke over 30 minutes. Burke got a decent number of good looks that just didn't go down, his effort was good on both ends but his impact just tends to be limited when the shots aren't falling. A good sign for him is that he's taking and making three pointers. I've been skeptical about his role, this type of performance does nothing to alleviate that.
Ron Baker: Baker was all effort and very little real impact in this one. He missed three open shots and a free throw in route to 1 point and 1 assist over 18 minutes. His physical play didn't do much to throw off Nets guards like Russell and if he's unable to create either than his spot is Lee's for the taking or even Dotson...both provide defense, better scoring and can dribble the ball past the half court line just as well as Baker with less athletic limitations.
Knox: Kevin Knox found his range in this one and it unlocked his confidence which opened up his entire game. 17 points on 7 of 14 from the field with 3 out of 4 three pointers. Knox also chipped in 6 rebounds, three on the offensive end, which really illustrated how his size at SF can be so advantageous. I'm honestly surprised that he had the third most FGA's because it felt like he got far less touches than some other feature players. But he made the most of his opportunities and showed better energy everywhere else. He's still giving up a step too often on defense, but a better effort meant he was able to stick with the starters in place of Lance and grant them better spacing and offense. I think we'll see this kid develop quickly, he has a scorer's mentality and the tools are all there. How his defense develops will be worth keeping an eye on.
Vonleh: On a night where the Knicks got crushed on the boards, Vonleh mighta deserved some more time out there. He tallied 2 points and 6 rebounds in just 11 minutes and had some presence defensively inside. Not much else to say on him with the brief stint.
Iso Zo: The Nets kept Trier in check by forcing him to settle for jumpers off the dribble and taking away driving lanes. Zo was 2 for 8 from the field for 8 points and 3 rebounds. He was able to draw some fouls that got him to the line and kept him relevant in the scoring column, but he's another player that I want to see learn to create for others when he can't get the looks he wants. Too many ball handlers are just settling rather than resetting the play or otherwise attacking with a pass that forces defenders to shift and work.
Hezonja: Hezonja was another player that put in pretty ineffective minutes and exacerbated this with poor defense and communication. 2 points, 1 assist and 1 rebound in 13 minutes where he didn't get many touches or do anything to warrant more. He's gotta do more and if he can't then he'd better play some defense to make up for it.
Fiz: It's gonna be tough to be patient with Fizdale installing his offense when the free lancing leads to low assist totals and lots of contested jumpers. When the Knicks can get out in transition, they're a sight to behold but the half court offense is not pretty. As the quality of opponents improves, it's going to be tough for these cats if they don't start looking to create for each other rather than themselves. He's got Timmy trying to lead but I hope he holds the guy accountable for poor decisions and lackadaisical defense like he did Knox after the three pointer. In terms of that last play...of course I wanted Frank on Levert, but I was more frustrated that he didn't put a rim protector out there for the second level. Knowing they would only get one shot off, he should have played to force a jumper imo.
Enes Kanter: I need to get this off my chest out the gate, Enes Kanter was a crucial presence inside on offense for the Knicks while also providing a frustrating inability to handle pick and roll defense on the other end. It's hard to get down on a player that gives you 29 and 10 on 12/18 from the field in 35 minutes but dear lord, it looked to me like the Nets gameplan was based on attacking Kanter. They started the game almost exclusively attacking the paint with no resistance. Even when Kanter does find himself in the right place on defense, he habitually doesn't get his hands up to challenge. Don't get me wrong, we NEED him. The half court offense is stagnant right now and his ability to post up plus grab boards for extra possessions is crucial (plus he really does set great screens for our guards); but this game certainly reminded me of the futility defenders face going over screens and relying on Kanter to slow down their man.
Frank Ntilikina: With a roar amid his third quarter run, Frank breathed life into a Knicks team that was looking lost and gave Knicks fans a vision of where is potential truly lies. He scored at all three levels; perimeter, midrange and driving into the lane. The youngster's defense was fantastic as well, forcing TO's in the form of steals, bad passes and offensive fouls drawn. 9 points, 4 assists, 3 steals and a rebound for Frank in 31 minutes where I just want to see the ball in his hands more often. One interesting wrinkle that popped up for a handful of plays was Frank passing out of the post. He made a couple of nice passes from that position but also almost handed the ball to Levert; it's an interesting place to get him more touches and looks though. His defense is a known commodity at this point, he's surpassed Lance Thomas as the most important piece of that puzzle. At 20 years old, the biggest question about Frank last night was why Fiz didn't put him on Caris Levert for the game deciding play.
Tim Hardaway: There are two ways to look at it; one is that the Knicks need somebody to shoulder the burden of scoring and Tim's ability to produce 29 is necessary. The other is that given 25 field goal attempt, the 29 points with no assists and 2 turnovers in 36 minutes is disappointing production for that many opportunities. It's hard to say where young players differing and Hardaway pressing begins but his lack of creation for anyone but himself and low efficiency places me in the latter group. On top of that, he got torched by Levert all night and his defense looks busier than it was actually impactful. Levert hung 28 points and 5 assists on just 13 attempts in their dual and 4 TO's doesn't change the fact that he owned what wound up being the game deciding match-up. One bit on that last attempt; I don't care if he challenged Levert at the rim because Tim never shoulda let him get a step with the ball in his right hand.
Lance Thomas: My 20 minutes rule was in full effect for Lance Thomas in this one. When Lance is on the floor for close to 20 minutes rather than 15, his inability to impact certain facets of the game starts to outshine his intangibles. 2 boards and 2 assists with no points on 4 attempts in 21 minutes; and he missed a completely wide open lay-up set up by Frank and a nice play drawn up from Fiz.
Burke: Trey Burke had a really nice season opener but this game was closer to his preseason struggles. 3 for 11 producing 8 points, 4 assists and 5 boards from Burke over 30 minutes. Burke got a decent number of good looks that just didn't go down, his effort was good on both ends but his impact just tends to be limited when the shots aren't falling. A good sign for him is that he's taking and making three pointers. I've been skeptical about his role, this type of performance does nothing to alleviate that.
Ron Baker: Baker was all effort and very little real impact in this one. He missed three open shots and a free throw in route to 1 point and 1 assist over 18 minutes. His physical play didn't do much to throw off Nets guards like Russell and if he's unable to create either than his spot is Lee's for the taking or even Dotson...both provide defense, better scoring and can dribble the ball past the half court line just as well as Baker with less athletic limitations.
Knox: Kevin Knox found his range in this one and it unlocked his confidence which opened up his entire game. 17 points on 7 of 14 from the field with 3 out of 4 three pointers. Knox also chipped in 6 rebounds, three on the offensive end, which really illustrated how his size at SF can be so advantageous. I'm honestly surprised that he had the third most FGA's because it felt like he got far less touches than some other feature players. But he made the most of his opportunities and showed better energy everywhere else. He's still giving up a step too often on defense, but a better effort meant he was able to stick with the starters in place of Lance and grant them better spacing and offense. I think we'll see this kid develop quickly, he has a scorer's mentality and the tools are all there. How his defense develops will be worth keeping an eye on.
Vonleh: On a night where the Knicks got crushed on the boards, Vonleh mighta deserved some more time out there. He tallied 2 points and 6 rebounds in just 11 minutes and had some presence defensively inside. Not much else to say on him with the brief stint.
Iso Zo: The Nets kept Trier in check by forcing him to settle for jumpers off the dribble and taking away driving lanes. Zo was 2 for 8 from the field for 8 points and 3 rebounds. He was able to draw some fouls that got him to the line and kept him relevant in the scoring column, but he's another player that I want to see learn to create for others when he can't get the looks he wants. Too many ball handlers are just settling rather than resetting the play or otherwise attacking with a pass that forces defenders to shift and work.
Hezonja: Hezonja was another player that put in pretty ineffective minutes and exacerbated this with poor defense and communication. 2 points, 1 assist and 1 rebound in 13 minutes where he didn't get many touches or do anything to warrant more. He's gotta do more and if he can't then he'd better play some defense to make up for it.
Fiz: It's gonna be tough to be patient with Fizdale installing his offense when the free lancing leads to low assist totals and lots of contested jumpers. When the Knicks can get out in transition, they're a sight to behold but the half court offense is not pretty. As the quality of opponents improves, it's going to be tough for these cats if they don't start looking to create for each other rather than themselves. He's got Timmy trying to lead but I hope he holds the guy accountable for poor decisions and lackadaisical defense like he did Knox after the three pointer. In terms of that last play...of course I wanted Frank on Levert, but I was more frustrated that he didn't put a rim protector out there for the second level. Knowing they would only get one shot off, he should have played to force a jumper imo.
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frank should start picking dudes up full court like pat.bev
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frank should start picking dudes up full court like pat.bev
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At 6'7, 6'8, he's a reasonable size for a sf.
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JMurder
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It’s time to give Dotson, Bakers minutes. I like Baker but his slightly above average defense isn’t enough to negate the fact that he’s an absolute zero on offense. It also kills two birds with one stone, by making frank the primary ball handler when Dotson subs in. I’m assuming Bakers purpose is his ability to guard pgs but Dotson isn’t too bad in that department.
I have to admit... I'm a little worried about tonight.
I see Brown really locking down Timmy and Tatum welcoming Knox to the league in a big way...
I see Brown really locking down Timmy and Tatum welcoming Knox to the league in a big way...
BornStar
Marathon Continues
My first Knicks viewing this year brehs. 
Its a beautiful Saturday, got my halo top ice cream , clean crib i dont have to entertain any broads this weekend. im chilling tonight We in Here #KnicksTape
Its a beautiful Saturday, got my halo top ice cream , clean crib i dont have to entertain any broads this weekend. im chilling tonight We in Here #KnicksTape
Gonna be ugly.I have to admit... I'm a little worried about tonight.
I see Brown really locking down Timmy and Tatum welcoming Knox to the league in a big way...
Looks like Gaines was right.
I understand it. Timmy needs development, too.
Wallychamp
Kings Lose Crowns, Teachers Stay Intelligent
Gametime!!!
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MSGO is trash.
