Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20
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I disagree we retire individuals numbers. Finals winners, conference champions, and division titles have their own spot in the rafters where they are honored. One individual could have but so much impact on a teams success. I truly don't understand how Melo was expected to beat Miami and Boston or make the playoffs with the supporting casts he had in those years. You should be rewarded in the rafters for your individual talent and circumstances during your time on the team should be taken into account.No it is notYou stay adding bullshyt qualifiers. You should be rewarded with a place in the rafters for team success, Anthony led teams overall were not successful.
Magic gave away Dwight's number to Tobias Harris, too.
The handful of Nuggets fans on this board don't seem to miss him so I can't speak for them, but he deserves to have his jersey retired in the future. MUCH stronger case in Denver fo sho.
Standards should be held higher for retired numbers. That's an exclusive honor. Melo doesn't meet my criteria. He meets yours.
A flukey season where almost everything went in the Knicks favor, which resulted in a flameout in the ECSF against the Pacers. And for all the praise yall give Melo for playoff appearances, he's consistently scored well under his career norms in the playoffs especially during his time with the Knicks.
Good for him.
This is true. Also, I don't care.
The Roy Hibbert block shot was my favorite Melo memory.
He also led us to four straight years of missing the playoffs.61 games .under .500 Enough of these BS caveats.
Forced his way to NY and gutted half of the roster for him instead of waiting in the offseason to sign with them. What a great guy. And before you mention the upcoming lockout in 2011, he had the opportunity to sign a 3+1 the same year as Wade, Bron and Bosh did. Melo becomes a free agent in 2010.
So you're grading him on a curve, because the Knicks have been basura for 10+ years. I'm not.
That's an indictment of the rest of the Knicks players. List the best non Melo Knicks in the post Ewing. Houston, Chandler, Marbury, Crawford, Porzingis, Amar'e. All bunch of
candidates.Yes.
I agree.
Yep. Patrick was a true superstar in every sense of the word unlike other frauds masquerading as one.
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All players are hated when they leave their teams and when shyt doesn't work out it's only years down the line that they are appreciated. Like, Vince Carter was boo'd for damn near a decade and now he has documentaries talking about how he put Toronto basketball on the map.Magic gave away Dwight's number to Tobias Harris, too.
The handful of Nuggets fans on this board don't seem to miss him so I can't speak for them, but he deserves to have his jersey retired in the future. MUCH stronger case in Denver fo sho.
Standards should be held higher for retired numbers. That's an exclusive honor. Melo doesn't meet my criteria. He meets yours.
A flukey season where almost everything went in the Knicks favor, which resulted in a flameout in the ECSF against the Pacers. And for all the praise yall give Melo for playoff appearances, he's consistently scored well under his career norms in the playoffs especially during his time with the Knicks.
Good for him.
This is true. Also, I don't care.
The Roy Hibbert block shot was my favorite Melo memory.
He also led us to four straight years of missing the playoffs.61 games .under .500 Enough of these BS caveats.
Forced his way to NY and gutted half of the roster for him instead of waiting in the offseason to sign with them. What a great guy. And before you mention the upcoming lockout in 2011, he had the opportunity to sign a 3+1 the same year as Wade, Bron and Bosh did. Melo becomes a free agent in 2010.
So you're grading him on a curve, because the Knicks have been basura for 10+ years. I'm not.
That's an indictment of the rest of the Knicks players. List the best non Melo Knicks in the post Ewing. Houston, Chandler, Marbury, Crawford, Porzingis, Amar'e. All bunch of
Yes.
I agree.
Yep. Patrick was a true superstar in every sense of the word unlike other frauds masquerading as one.
Just like in 20 years your kid is going to be watching some documentary/highlight show hosted by a
Wally Scherzbiak on MSG talmbout how "the Melo man" was one of the greatest scorers in franchise history and how crazy his 62 point game was 
In @DPresidential case his kids will be watching the YES Network
I wouldn't call it a flukey season it was a magical year
And in those four years that we were 61 games under .500, what was his supporting cast like? Did Melo not pretty much replicate his All-NBA season the next year in '13-'14 only to win 37 games?
Melo didn't score under his career norms. He averaged 26 per game in '11, 28 per game in '12, 29 per game in '13. His efficiency dipped because he was facing historically good defenses on undermanned teams and it's the playoffs. I remember him putting up valiant efforts, 42 points and 17 boards against Boston playing with god damn Jared Jeffries and Toney Douglas. Billups injured and Stoudemire playing through a bad back.
The Knicks allowed themselves to be swindled it's more of an indictment on ownership since Dolan pushed it , Melo could have played his cards better I agree.
I'm not grading him on a curve because the Knicks have been basura for 10+ years. Those 10+ years are part of our franchise history for better or worse they have to be considered. shyt, there's several players who have to be remembered in Knicks culture from that time period even though we were trash. Melo wanting to be here and leading us to our first playoff series win in 13 years, bringing the Knicks back for that short time period matters.
Even though Pat is the better player, you know Melo would have won Finals MVP and you know he would have been our closer
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I think they should
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Why cant we like all the players from whichever era they played in?
Oak, Starks, Spree, H20 should all have their jersey #s retired. While we're at it, Mason too, R.I.P. Great tenure as a Knick.
Melo too.
Before my time, but BK as well.
Hell, special consideration to Kurt Thomas and Marcus Camby...seems like the Knicks were always in contention whenever these two were on the team.
All of the aforementioned were either major contributors/integral members of our most successful runs as a franchise or great individual talents who achieved individual accolades (King, Melo) while carrying the team as far as he could.
IDK maybe my standards are too low just feel like Ewing shouldn't be the only player circa 1970s championship era teams to have his # retired. I mean I understand the argument but I dont think jersey retirement should be exclusively based on team success, its certainly part of it but shouldn't be the end all be all
Oak, Starks, Spree, H20 should all have their jersey #s retired. While we're at it, Mason too, R.I.P. Great tenure as a Knick.
Melo too.
Before my time, but BK as well.
Hell, special consideration to Kurt Thomas and Marcus Camby...seems like the Knicks were always in contention whenever these two were on the team.
All of the aforementioned were either major contributors/integral members of our most successful runs as a franchise or great individual talents who achieved individual accolades (King, Melo) while carrying the team as far as he could.
IDK maybe my standards are too low just feel like Ewing shouldn't be the only player circa 1970s championship era teams to have his # retired. I mean I understand the argument but I dont think jersey retirement should be exclusively based on team success, its certainly part of it but shouldn't be the end all be all
I do like all those players but I just think there should be a higher standard for a jersey retirement. Memphis Grizzlies retiring Z-Bo's and Tony Allen's numbers was cute but a fukking joke. That's basically accepting mediocrity.
I don't think Vince nor T-Mac should have their numbers retired either. And they both had better careers with Rockets and Raptors than Melo with the Knicks. Vince pulled a dirtbag move to leave Toronto so I don't think they'll even consider it.
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Tony Allen, Z-Bo, Mike Conley, Marc Gasol will all get their jerseys retired. Remember they are a young franchise and they embodied the Grit-N-Grind era. I'm not really mad at it at all and I don't think they were mediocre they were one of the very best teams of their era. Pau Gasol will probably be up there too at some point.
Haslem will probably get his jersey retired in Miami for being a Heat lifer and Miami native, contributing to titles, being the franchise leading rebounder, and just being a leader on the floor and in the community for all those years.
And no I disagree that those guys had better careers than Melo on Houston/Toronto. T-Mac as we know infamously never made it past the first round of the playoffs it's like he was cursed. Vince's best team peaked at 47 wins and a second round exit and he only made the playoffs twice in Toronto. I don't consider what Vince did a dirt bag move because they weren't putting the proper talent around him. The only thing he deserves blame for is mailing games in. Vince number will eventually get retired because like I said people move on he has documentaries now praising his time there and lamenting about how things ended. Now, the man is 40 years old on the verge of retirement people credit him for being there electric franchise player when they were an expansion team and embracing the city.
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Just guess who Kevin Knox's favorite Knick is...
It's on his IG story
It's on his IG story
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First they were coming out like masked secret admirers,
"oh i think he is a decent player, he might be alright. " "he favors Larry Johnson step-nephew" "you know 6'7 280 mostly muscle he can be ok."
now they are coming like the booty warrior "I like you , I wantcha."
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all my knickas gotta be buckets
tell that boy if he ain't finna go to the nfl maybe try wrasslin in the wwe or something
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