Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

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THJR and Kanter as the only two scoring options

So Trey.I. don’t exist now huh?

Burke>Hardaway.

 

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I'd put the over/under at 28 games. The East is gonna be weak so overachieving isn't completely out of the realm but I don't think we've got the firepower at least until the unicorn is back. If KP's medical outlook is faster than expected, we could be looking at another missed opportunity to pick top 5 though.

It’s not going to be that weak. Arguably three of the top 5 teams in the NBA are in the East based on projections for next season.

Toronto added a bonafide top 5 player and have the best defensive cast in the league now next to Utah. They will win 55-60 games.

Boston is going to have a healthy Kyrie and Hayward, with Tatum going into his sophomore season. They should win 55-60 games.

Philly with Simmons and Embiid a year older, they showed how good they can be the second half of last season. And Fultz apparently fixed his shot. They could win 55-60 games.

Washington added Dwight, Jeff Green, Austin Rivers. Wall will be healthy he missed 40 games last season. Oubre and Porter a year older. They should win 48-55 games.

Milwaukee. They added a legit stretch 5 and low post scoring option in Brook Lopez. Better spacing for Giannis who will be an MVP candidate. They can win 45-50 games.

Indiana will be scrappy. And they will win 45-50 games.

Detroit with a full year of Blake Griffin, new head coach Dwane Casey.

Chicago looks interesting on paper with Markannen in year 2, drafting Wendell Carter Jr., signing Jabari Parker.

Cleveland should still be aight and win 40-45 games with Love leading the way, Sexton looked good in SL.

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

I agree with everything except Cleveland. They will suck ass. Love is overrated af.

 

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I agree with everything except Cleveland. They will suck ass. Love is overrated af.

Cleveland might suck. The defense is going to be fukking ass again and they don’t have LeBron to anchor a top 5 offense and close games



It really depends on how good Sexton is. Love is gonna put up like 20/12 though.

 

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I think Knox and Mitchell are more promising than Sexton.

 

[nyknick]

So Trey.I. don’t exist now huh?

Burke>Hardaway.

He's not on THJR's level. Tim with a good point guard and set plays would be deadly.

Trey.I shot twos for 55% in 36 games last season. I'll have to see him do it again to believe he can do it consistently.

 

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It’s not going to be that weak. Arguably three of the top 5 teams in the NBA are in the East based on projections for next season.

Toronto added a bonafide top 5 player and have the best defensive cast in the league now next to Utah. They will win 55-60 games.

Boston is going to have a healthy Kyrie and Hayward, with Tatum going into his sophomore season. They should win 55-60 games.

Philly with Simmons and Embiid a year older, they showed how good they can be the second half of last season. And Fultz apparently fixed his shot. They could win 55-60 games.

Washington added Dwight, Jeff Green, Austin Rivers. Wall will be healthy he missed 40 games last season. Oubre and Porter a year older. They should win 48-55 games.

Milwaukee. They added a legit stretch 5 and low post scoring option in Brook Lopez. Better spacing for Giannis who will be an MVP candidate. They can win 45-50 games.

Indiana will be scrappy. And they will win 45-50 games.

Detroit with a full year of Blake Griffin, new head coach Dwane Casey.

Chicago looks interesting on paper with Markannen in year 2, drafting Wendell Carter Jr., signing Jabari Parker.

Cleveland should still be aight and win 40-45 games with Love leading the way, Sexton looked good in SL.

I'd drop Cleveland, Chicago and Detroit off that list. Chicago I think is another year of development out; Detroit is kinda a wildcard...could be good but plenty of question marks, they ran up their win tally when teams weren't trying any more like a 12th man on a bad team in April. Cleveland needs a true playmaker imo, I know Sexton can do some of that but I don't think he's near ready to be that guy for a team. That leaves you 5 teams in the top 15 vs 10 out West. Then the bottom shakes out with the Hawks, Nets, Magic and Knicks vying for the absolute bottom of league versus the Kings and maybe the Suns (I'd emphasize that maybe because I think Ayton, Ariza and slept on Holmes are all serious improvements). I'm not saying this means the Knicks have post season hopes btw, just that they're going to play extra games against the bottom half of the league which could mean that they find themselves picking 6-10 instead of 1-5. They won 29 games while missing KP for half of last season and that got a 9th selection; if KP gets back early (Jan-Feb being realistic); they could slide from sub-25 wins to pushing 30 and leaving us praying for the new lottery format to save us.

 

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I'd drop Cleveland, Chicago and Detroit off that list. Chicago I think is another year of development out; Detroit is kinda a wildcard...could be good but plenty of question marks, they ran up their win tally when teams weren't trying any more like a 12th man on a bad team in April. Cleveland needs a true playmaker imo, I know Sexton can do some of that but I don't think he's near ready to be that guy for a team. That leaves you 5 teams in the top 15 vs 10 out West. Then the bottom shakes out with the Hawks, Nets, Magic and Knicks vying for the absolute bottom of league versus the Kings and maybe the Suns (I'd emphasize that maybe because I think Ayton, Ariza and slept on Holmes are all serious improvements). I'm not saying this means the Knicks have post season hopes btw, just that they're going to play extra games against the bottom half of the league which could mean that they find themselves picking 6-10 instead of 1-5. They won 29 games while missing KP for half of last season and that got a 9th selection; if KP gets back early (Jan-Feb being realistic); they could slide from sub-25 wins to pushing 30 and leaving us praying for the new lottery format to save us.

The Bulls couldn't even tank properly last season ended up winning more than they expected. They had a 7 game winning streak in the middle of the season, they had to get Mirotic the hell out of there, and ended up having to sit players out to end the year just so they could salvage draft position.

LaVine only played a rusty 24 games. They added Wendell Carter, Jr. who looked great in the SL and Chandler Hutchinson who is a four year college player who can contribute immediately. Kris Dunn is a year older, they added Jabari Parker who I'm excited to see at his natural SF position and I think he can put up the numbers he did pre-ACL tear, also Markannen is the real deal and he coming back brolic.


Bulls won't be good on defense but their offense looks potent. Detroit and Charlotte are wild cards. They can win 35 games or 42-45 games depending on things like health, chemistry, scheduling, etc.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

@ Markkanen.






That fakkit Wristflops Pusszingis needs to get in the weight room with the him.





:philjacksonlol: Big shoutout to my nikka @Columbo.

 

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The Bulls couldn't even tank properly last season ended up winning more than they expected. They had a 7 game winning streak in the middle of the season, they had to get Mirotic the hell out of there, and ended up having to sit players out to end the year just so they could salvage draft position.

LaVine only played a rusty 24 games. They added Wendell Carter, Jr. who looked great in the SL and Chandler Hutchinson who is a four year college player who can contribute immediately. Kris Dunn is a year older, they added Jabari Parker who I'm excited to see at his natural SF position and I think he can put up the numbers he did pre-ACL tear, also Markannen is the real deal and he coming back brolic.


Bulls won't be good on defense but their offense looks potent. Detroit and Charlotte are wild cards. They can win 35 games or 42-45 games depending on things like health, chemistry, scheduling, etc.

I co-sign you heavy on this. I think the defense will be borderline atrocious and will cost them a lot of wins. I'm big on Jabari Parker but I like him WAY more as a PF because of the defensive implications specifically. I can't get excited for a team that's likely to start three flat out bad defenders and a rely on a rookie to anchor them inside defensively. The offense should be a gang of fun to watch though, betting the over on total scores ought to pay nicely early on with 'em. Charlotte's a good one for a potential surprise team, Kemba is pretty underrated. Health seems like the big thing holding that crew back but they did pretty well to add some decent depth in key places. I think 35 or 45 is a good way to describe those two wildcards.

 

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2018 Eastern Conference Summer League Notes

New York Knicks

• On Kevin Knox: “No one is booing now! [Laughter] I think we could draft the entire Dream Team in their primes and the fans would boo. That’s kind of their thing. Look, the league is in a spot where if you don’t have a bunch of guys who can create their own shot and switch on anyone, you won’t win. Kevin is huge. He’s 6’9’’ and has great strength. But he’s also very quick too. For what we are building, he’s ideal.”
• Knox took some really awful shots at Summer League, but took them with confidence and got them off with ease. Over time, those shots will fade from his game for more efficient ones. He’s so quick and strong that getting to the basket should be something he can do from day one. And he’s more than capable of holding his own on defense, once he understands how NBA schemes work.
• On adding Mario Hezonja: “What do you guys call it? Second draft? That’s an interesting term. Mario has a ton of ability, but has only put it all together for really short bursts. He needed a fresh start. We think he’ll thrive here. He’s got that attitude of someone who wants to be great. You need that in New York.”
• On hiring David Fizdale: “We got the best available coach. It’s our fortune he was even available. He’s already changing things with our guys. They know he’s a winner, but that he has their back. The whole ‘Take that for data!’ stuff was funny, but it shows players the coach has your back. That goes a long way.”
• On Kristaps Porzingis’ future: “All signs are that recovery is going great. He’s up for an extension this year and we all want that done. The deal Philly did with (Joel) Embiid is an interesting template for what you could do for a guy coming off a major injury. I don’t know if we will or won’t, but we want him in New York forever.”

They asked Smitty about Mitch over on the knicks forum

I had what I thought was a really good Robinson quote from a coach, but my recorder had an error or something.

I didn't include it in the article because it would have been too much paraphrasing, but here I can:

"He has no idea what he's doing on either end of the floor, yet he's still borderline dominant. That's impressive. It's all instinct and athleticism right now. Once he has an understanding of how basketball is played, he'll be terrific. And that isn't just NBA basketball, but basketball. He's about a raw or blank slate as we've had. We're really excited to get him in the gym every day, but it's going to take a while before he's ready for NBA games."

And there was more about how good his defensive instincts are, but how he has no idea how to guard PnR and how (like every young big) he hates to go out on shooters. But they are super high on Robinson. FWIW, I'm in the same camp. And I had four or five other teams tell me versions of "If his head is on right AND if he's healthy AND if he's ready to work, the Knicks got a lottery pick in the second round."

 

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I agree with everything except Cleveland. They will suck ass. Love is overrated af.

Yep, he'll get his #s but they wont have much impact

Cleveland might suck. The defense is going to be fukking ass again and they don’t have LeBron to anchor a top 5 offense and close games



It really depends on how good Sexton is. Love is gonna put up like 20/12 though.

And just like in Minny those #s wont translate to many wins.

 

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I co-sign you heavy on this. I think the defense will be borderline atrocious and will cost them a lot of wins. I'm big on Jabari Parker but I like him WAY more as a PF because of the defensive implications specifically. I can't get excited for a team that's likely to start three flat out bad defenders and a rely on a rookie to anchor them inside defensively. The offense should be a gang of fun to watch though, betting the over on total scores ought to pay nicely early on with 'em. Charlotte's a good one for a potential surprise team, Kemba is pretty underrated. Health seems like the big thing holding that crew back but they did pretty well to add some decent depth in key places. I think 35 or 45 is a good way to describe those two wildcards.

I think Jabari is better suited defensively to guard SF’s. He’s not a good enough rebounder and can’t protect the rim to play the 4, also he can’t defend real PF’s like Anthony Davis and LaMarcus Aldridge. Jabari is a true 3 and ocassional small ball 4.

Markannen was better defensively than advertised he competes. This is a guy that was portrayed as a defensive liability in the draft. But he showed willingness, length, anticipation, toughness, intelligence, and good feet. He was thin which limited him defensively but he has potential to have a monster frame with his body type/genes. Metrics have him as average to below average defensively but not a sieve. He won’t be anywhere near the rim protector KP is, but he could be a good P&R defender and could move his feet better laterally as far as guarding wings and closing out on shooters.

Parker and LaVine have been sieves near the bottom at their positions defensively despite their athleticism. I think RoLo will start over WCJ and he’s a great rim protector. Dunn is an elite young defender he’s up there with Frank and Dejounte.

 

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I think Jabari is better suited defensively to guard SF’s. He’s not a good enough rebounder and can’t protect the rim to play the 4, also he can’t defend real PF’s like Anthony Davis and LaMarcus Aldridge. Jabari is a true 3 and ocassional small ball 4.

Markannen was better defensively than advertised he competes. This is a guy that was portrayed as a defensive liability in the draft. But he showed willingness, length, anticipation, toughness, intelligence, and good feet. He was thin which limited him defensively but he has potential to have a monster frame with his body type/genes. Metrics have him as average to below average defensively but not a sieve. He won’t be anywhere near the rim protector KP is, but he could be a good P&R defender and could move his feet better laterally as far as guarding wings and closing out on shooters.

Parker and LaVine have been sieves near the bottom at their positions defensively despite their athleticism. I think RoLo will start over WCJ and he’s a great rim protector. Dunn is an elite young defender he’s up there with Frank and Dejounte.

I'd agree that Jabari is more built to defend SF's but we're on ACL injury number two and he tracked woefully at both Forward positions defensively. You're right that he's too small for the rare true PF in this league though and I do think having Markannen as the floor stretching 4 should help cover for Parker's lack of range. I was one of the only heads in this thread that wasn't completely opposed to a cheap offer to Parker because I do agree that he has the right tools. The thing for me though, is that he's gotta show it before I let him off the hook. He's been in the league too long not to have improved and the injuries make his prospects less compelling. I really think he's a weird fit in Chicago, but being home might be the mental boost needed.

Markannen didn't impress me at all defensively tbh but I do agree that his frame and mobility suggests he ought to reach legitimately average defensive play. I think you mentioned the biggest thing helping out both his defensive numbers and rebounding though, RoLo makes players look better. His front court partners always get a bump in rebounding, KP included and having RoLo also allows other bigs to defend more comfortably in space. I feel like the word out of summer league shows Chicago REALLY high on Carter, so I've assumed he starts but if RoLo starts that definitely would change the starting unit's chemistry outlook by a good amount.

No debating on Dunn from me. He's only gonna get better on defense and god forbid he adds some range to the mix. The Bulls future outlook is really good, I just think they'll need another year of seasoning before it all comes together. Dunn being a more consistent offensive weapon, Lauri proving he's not a liability on defense, Carter just getting over the typical rookie humps and Jabari getting back to pre-ACL level of play. Those are gonna take some time to build. They'll be a team I watch a lot for the youth and pace they're bound to play with.

 

[Columbo]

@ Markkanen.






That fakkit Wristflops Pusszingis needs to get in the weight room with the him.





:philjacksonlol: Big shoutout to my nikka @Columbo.

I'm not sure if that would be a good idea and I'm gonna tell you why

Never trust these dudes that have a girls name. One minute it could be going great, both Lauri and Wristflops benchin and shyt getting jacked

Next minute, the much stronger Lauri could have Wristflops in a full Nelson, pants to the ground ravishing KP for countless hours, screams heard all the way from Europe to the east coast

Perhaps someone more trust worthy like Kanter would be a better candidate, he's looking more swoll