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I'm trying to be positive breh but please don't put them 2 in the same sentence together:francis:
What's the problem? It's just a metaphor. Of course, RJ will never be Patrick Ewing.

I'm just saying that he could be the franchise player that we desperately need like Patrick was.

Pat led us to the Finals and almost a 3rd championship unlike Melo (no disrespect to Melo). RJ could potentially be that type of player for us.

That's all. :yeshrug:
 

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The more I think about it, rj presents a certain versatility. In his time so far, he's shown that can has the ability and mentality to be the alpha but also can differ to a more talented player and be the second fiddle.
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ability to guard multiple positions, playmaking, needs to improve shot but he's 18
might get killed for this but I see a little scottie in him.
he has the pedigree :hubie:
I get the canadian superstition
and frankly we need to just pick the best player available if you want to trade him anyways.
 

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Can’t hate on him having a nba ready body and elite athleticism at 18 but plenty players in the NBA also have it and skills to match

What is RJ extremely good at that the Knicks need?

He’s a nice playmaker for his size/position but Knicks are better getting an ELITE point guard to run the team like Ja would’ve been or maybe a Jrue.

RJ isn’t a great ball handler

RJ ain’t really the knock down shooter the Knicks need since losing Porzings

And more scoring/ball dominating players definitely ain’t what the Knicks need if they get Durant, Ad, Kyrie or kemba

Imagine a rookie trying to take shots from those guys mentioned above

I think a nice “2nd fiddle” player is RJ future on stacked a playoff Knicks team

Then again CAM Reddish would be a better fit in this scenario cause he’s a shooter/slasher:yeshrug:
 

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Can’t hate on him having a nba ready body and elite athleticism at 18 but plenty players in the NBA also have it and skills to match

What is RJ extremely good at that the Knicks need?

He’s a nice playmaker for his size/position but Knicks are better getting an ELITE point guard to run the team like Ja would’ve been or maybe a Jrue.

RJ isn’t a great ball handler

RJ ain’t really the knock down shooter the Knicks need since losing Porzings

And more scoring/ball dominating players definitely ain’t what the Knicks need if they get Durant, Ad, Kyrie or kemba

Imagine a rookie trying to take shots from those guys mentioned above

I think a nice “2nd fiddle” player is RJ future on stacked a playoff Knicks team

Then again CAM Reddish would be a better fit in this scenario cause he’s a shooter/slasher:yeshrug:
he's a re-classed 18 year old :dahell:
he's damn near as complete a prospect as you can be at his age :mjlol:
wtf

only a few 18 year olds more heralded coming into the draft than rj if we're being real

you naming things he isnt great at, at 18 years old as if there arent whole ass career vets without his current skillset.
aint no rookie taking shots away from established superstars, ideally it's probably the best thing for him to be under the tutelage of stars

cam reddish isnt better than rj barrett in any vacuum.
please stop.
I'm tired of falling in love with measurables. I saw with my eyes that barrett is a dog, damn near borderline irrationally confident but all stars present that mentality save for maybe kawhi.
I saw with my own eyes that cam was passive and highly inconsistent....on the same god damn team.
 

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The more I think about it, rj presents a certain versatility. In his time so far, he's shown that can has the ability and mentality to be the alpha but also can differ to a more talented player and be the second fiddle.
D7x3LLnWsAAgPtN.jpg

ability to guard multiple positions, playmaking, needs to improve shot but he's 18
might get killed for this but I see a little scottie in him.
he has the pedigree :hubie:
I get the canadian superstition
and frankly we need to just pick the best player available if you want to trade him anyways.

RJ was never the second fiddle at Duke. That was the problem.
 

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Yea if you wanna wait another decade and trust RJ getting better at literally everything

Kristaps was a franchise type player and you see the city chewed him up and spit him back out.

You really see RJ being better than Kristaps? Or even handling the pressures of carrying a Knicks team alone?

He’s better off losing and being “the guy” somewhere else

I don’t think Knicks fans have much more patience in losing and rebuilding

Especially after missing out on Zion everyone’s already bitter.

And if Brooklyn gets Kyrie :banderas:

It’ll be a shame if Knicks don’t get At least KD or AD (and they’d definitely need to trade Barrett/the 3rd pick for him).

Nobody trying to settle for only Barrett. That’s a step backwards from only 2 years ago with a healthy Kristaps.

Can’t believe some of you are lowering your standards :snoop:
You have been an idiot for a while. Stop speaking on shyt Knicks related when you have no facts to back it up
 

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Nate Duncan did an RJ breakdown and was not sold on him at all.

I thought it was pretty fair all in all, spoke to both my concerns and the aspects of his game that I really like. Around 30-35 mins in is where they finish up the Finals and move on to RJ.

2019 NBA Finals Outlook; RJ Barrett Scouting Report; HOU Trades Coming? - Nate Duncan NBA

Biggest promise they find:
- RJ's passing and vision. Great pick and roll player at 6'7 with surprising vision. Could be even better with more shooters available on kickouts because weakside kickouts weren't much of an option but made them well.
- Rebounding is a clear strength especially defensive boards.
- Leadership was on display with team Canada, they didn't overplay this but I think intangibles are really strong with this kid and that bit speaks to it.

Worries:
- Doesn't create space well. Scouts are beating the hell out of the term "wiggle" which is basically the ability to beat his man off the dribble and create space. He was more a bulldozer type, relying on his size and athleticism to get inside. That won't be as easy on the next level with better athletes.
- Average hops and inconsistent jump shooter. His finishing at the rim wasn't particularly strong relative to typical top three picks and he's confident in his jump shot but doesn't have it developed enough for that confidence.
- Questionable on court mentality. They go a little too harsh with OJ Mayo and Josh Jackson comparables (too reliant on physical tools that won't translate at the next level).
- Defense won't be a strength, could be average but they have concerns.
- Left hand dominant. Could struggle if teams force him right.

Things they didn't mention that I personally think warrant talking about:

- Being lefty, 6'7 AND having a great pick and roll game is a money combination. Defending lefties is always a bit trickier and one who can see over the defense, make all passes and also bulldoze to the rim has every tool to force help defenders over.
- Duke's spacing sucked and it would be interesting to take the gifts that he has but transplant them into a better spaced situation.
- What I think these guys are looking at is that RJ doesn't have that big standout trait for the next level. He's a good passer for his size, solid ball handler, could develop a jumper and has a good mindset...but there's not really a go-to trait for him if a team shuts down the pick and roll. I think he's guaranteed to be a solid piece that you can fit into a lot of line-up combinations, but being THE piece isn't guaranteed. I think Garland has more upside in that respect...yall know I love Garland.

If they're confident that he's the guy, then the Knicks should absolutely go for it. The work ethic SHOULD translate over time and his mentality is just great. But I could see a D'angelo Russell trajectory where he takes a while learning how to make his tools translate against better athletes and smarter defensive systems.
 

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What's the problem? It's just a metaphor. Of course, RJ will never be Patrick Ewing.

I'm just saying that he could be the franchise player that we desperately need like Patrick was.

Pat led us to the Finals and almost a 3rd championship unlike Melo (no disrespect to Melo). RJ could potentially be that type of player for us.

That's all. :yeshrug:


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