Lakers offseason thread: Renovation era

[tremonthustler1]

Truly, how can anyone question Kobe's greatness taking a roster like that, not only winning the West, but also the championship. With that said. If I were the Lakers, I would do anything to get Dwight Howard. I think Sessions needs an extra season. And Beasley/Iggy could fill in the void Odom left behind. For me:

Sessions
Kobe
Beasley/Artest
Pau
Dwight

or if they could get Iggy too:

Sessions
Kobe
Iggy/Artest
Beasley
Dwight

They were porous in the paint this offseason. Part of it is bad coaching, but just as much really was the effort coming from Bynum and Pau. This is still the same team that won a 'ship 3 seasons ago, so normally, I would say to keep the core intact, but the combination of the lack of effort from Bynum and Pau and the fact that Dwight is available makes it a go for me. If Dwight was on the Lakers, I don't think they lose to OKC. I don't think they lose to anybody.

How are you getting Iggy, Dwight, and Beasley?

 

[Juanito]

You guys really think Sessions is the answer at PG? Lowkey i wish we could cop Deron williams idk maybe Flip Pau or something but im not sure how realistic that would be. I can't really see bynum going anywhere he played well with this being a season him being mostly healthy. I definitely think Pau is going tho. Just a matter of where and when.

 

[aixenv]

You guys really think Sessions is the answer at PG? Lowkey i wish we could cop Deron williams idk maybe Flip Pau or something but im not sure how realistic that would be. I can't really see bynum going anywhere he played well with this being a season him being mostly healthy. I definitely think Pau is going tho. Just a matter of where and when.

sessions is garbage
pau is garbage
bynum is immature and needs to stop being an gimp AND WAY too injury prone, this his first mostly healthy year i can remember in ages
kobe needs to start deferring and shooting no more than 15 times a game
coach is horrible, new coach pls
ron - need to use his strength more and stop jacking up 3s

basically while being a big lakers fan, i am not too happy with this team

but like always, we'll resurrect ourselves

and F Stern for screwing us on the cp3 trade.. they didn't let that trade happen but they let the pau trade happen? yea.. that makes a lot of sense

 

[Juanito]

Yeah the CP3 traded getting rejected had me heated for the longest time. I still don't understand how they let that fly, we would have gone so much deeper in the playoffs possibly the finals

 

[Hater]

Yeah the CP3 traded getting rejected had me heated for the longest time. I still don't understand how they let that fly, we would have gone so much deeper in the playoffs possibly the finals

Rumor was that we would have traded for Beasley to replace Pau at the 4 and Bynum was getting swapped for Dwight if the Paul deal went through.

Dwight
Beasley
Artest
Kobe
Paul

 

[Mic-Nificent]

SMH @ anybody saying Pau is garbage. The ONLY problems with Pau is that he's not aggressive enough when he's needed the most and he's overpaid.

Dude averaged 17 points 10 rebounds 3 assists and a block a game as a third option. That's hardly garbage, and truthfully he'd have been even more effective this season if Mike Brown hadn't insisted on Pau being a mid range jump shooter.

 

[aixenv]

SMH @ anybody saying Pau is garbage. The ONLY problems with Pau is that he's not aggressive enough when he's needed the most and he's overpaid.

Dude averaged 17 points 10 rebounds 3 assists and a block a game as a third option. That's hardly garbage, and truthfully he'd have been even more effective this season if Mike Brown hadn't insisted on Pau being a mid range jump shooter.

and that is why he's garbage, he has no heart..hides when it matters most and is about of soft as terry cloth, ergo garbage

 

[Da King]

If Dwill don't come to LA, you nikkas actually expect to ever be more then a 2nd rd playoff team?

 

[Mic-Nificent]

and that is why he's garbage, he has no heart..hides when it matters most and is about of soft as terry cloth, ergo garbage

Funny how that garbage player helped the Lakers get to three straight NBA finals.

Calling him soft is one thing, but saying his garbage is silly. If not for his contract the Lakers wouldn't even consider trading him.

Hell by your Logic Bynum is just as garbage since he flat out quits during games.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

If Dwill don't come to LA, you nikkas actually expect to ever be more then a 2nd rd playoff team?

It's a cap issue more than anything. The Lakers are over the cap and desperately need to upgrade their role players. Every player that was brought in was done to fill specific holes but they've all under performed.

The outside shooting is a MAJOR issue. It's a not a coincidence that when guys (not named Kobe) were knocking down perimeter shots that was when the Lakers looked like legit contenders.

 

[aixenv]

Funny how that garbage player helped the Lakers get to three straight NBA finals.

Calling him soft is one thing, but saying his garbage is silly. If not for his contract the Lakers wouldn't even consider trading him.

Hell by your Logic Bynum is just as garbage since he flat out quits during games.

read my posts buddy.. i do think bynum is garbage.. immature and quitting is not a trait i want in a Laker

At any rate, I also won't dispute your statement, If pau didn't join that year, we dont have titles

I just think its time to clean house and start over with people who are going to try

 

[aixenv]

Rumor was that we would have traded for Beasley to replace Pau at the 4 and Bynum was getting swapped for Dwight if the Paul deal went through.

Dwight
Beasley
Artest
Kobe
Paul

that would have been back to Lakers dynasty time...

if only Stern wasnt such a cocksucker

 

[Mic-Nificent]

read my posts buddy.. i do think bynum is garbage.. immature and quitting is not a trait i want in a Laker

At any rate, I also won't dispute your statement, If pau didn't join that year, we dont have titles

I just think its time to clean house and start over with people who are going to try

The thing is even though you're claiming these guys are garbage they're still elite players in this league. It's gonna be hard to get enough value back in return.

Dwight has made it clear he doesn't want to come to the Lakers.

Deron is open to coming, but I'm convinced you'd have to send Bynum to the nets to make that happen.

You can get a few solid role players for Pau, but nobody is going to send a younger superstar and take on an aging Pau with a monster contract (dude gets paid more than LBJ).

Bynum is almost dangerous to trade for anyone outside of Dwight simply because he's so young and has so much potential in an era that weak at that position.

 

[aixenv]

The thing is even though you're claiming these guys are garbage they're still elite players in this league. It's gonna be hard to get enough value back in return.

Dwight has made it clear he doesn't want to come to the Lakers.

Deron is open to coming, but I'm convinced you'd have to send Bynum to the nets to make that happen.

You can get a few solid role players for Pau, but nobody is going to send a younger superstar and take on an aging Pau with a monster contract (dude gets paid more than LBJ).

Bynum is almost dangerous to trade for anyone outside of Dwight simply because he's so young and has so much potential in an era that weak at that position.

that post drips with wisdom, and i do totally agree with you

we're damned if we do, and damned if we dont,

we trade bynum, he actually grows some nuts and starts being a beast, we look like fools

i totally dont disagree with you, i just think it's a risk we need to take, i mean bynum actually said he didnt come prepared to play in a playoff game, who says that #1, and its not like this kid is 18 nowadays this isnt his first rodeo

i think its a very slippery slope regardless of what the lakers do

Dwill would be a huge upgarde over Sessions, i would be happy with him, What we need is kobe to realize he has other ppl who can perform and defer more.. i give kobe a lot of the fault of the current state of things but at the same time, im sure kobe is looking around like, none of these guys have any nuts/heart and are not clutch so why SHOULD i pass them the damn ball?

- Ron needs to be a beast on the boards, beast on D, and stop jacking 3s
- Kobe, defer more, shoot 12-15 shots a game, try and facilitate more, be more a leader than a ball dominator
- Pau i lost the last bit of respect I had for him after LAST years playoffs when he laid a big fat egg
- coach sucks, im not a fan of him
- Dwill >>>>>>> sessions (i can only hope)
- bynum needs to go, even though as you said, it's a risky proposition which i totally agree with, i just dont want him on the team for numerous reasons, he spits in the face of all the lakers who helped build this team / organization into what it is/has been

 

[TheNig]

How are you getting Iggy, Dwight, and Beasley?

nikkas playing Association Mode on 2k with Trade Cap off and shyt.