Lakers dodged a bullet by passing up on Okafor

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Marc Gasol won DPOY in 2012-13. In 2013-14, his Defended Field Goal Percentage was 48.6%, including 60.9% at less than six feet.

Okafor's Defended Field Goal Percentage right now is 48.4%, including 54.3% at less than six feet.

This season, Gasol's DFG% is 43.7%, including 55.3% at less than six feet, which is still worse than Okafor's percentages.

In 2013-14, Cousins' DFG% was 46.7%, including 57% at less than six feet. This year, he's at 43.3% and 51.9% at less than six feet.

Do you need more examples? I'm listing Cousins and Gasol's numbers well past age 20 as well.
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nikkas out churr tryna rag on Jah to make themselves feel better when their homies say the Lakers were stupid for not drafting him Breh....
 

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the most obvious player to build a team around in that class was towns and porzingis. passing on porzingis was the real mistake. id never pick Russell over porzingis which is why I had an issue with that pick.
Why couldn't a team pick porzingis then grab Cameron Payne later?
 
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the most obvious player to build a team around in that class was towns and porzingis. passing on porzingis was the real mistake. id never pick Russell over porzingis which is why I had an issue with that pick.
Why couldn't a team pick porzingis then grab Cameron Payne later?
Porzingis was not an obvious pick at all. That's blatant revisionism. He was still an unknown quantity.
 

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the most obvious player to build a team around in that class was towns and porzingis. passing on porzingis was the real mistake. id never pick Russell over porzingis which is why I had an issue with that pick.
Why couldn't a team pick porzingis then grab Cameron Payne later?

That was not obvious and its still not obvious and payne was a lottery pick, they were not going to get payne and porzingis. How was it obvious when porzingis wasnt even in the mention of 1
top 4 of the draft until days before the draft. Hell even the analysis thought new York might pick mudiay right before the pick. And
 

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That was not obvious and its still not obvious and payne was a lottery pick, they were not going to get payne and porzingis. How was it obvious when porzingis wasnt even in the mention of 1
top 4 of the draft until days before the draft. Hell even the analysis thought new York might pick mudiay right before the pick. And
:patrice: I'm starting to think you might be a lil too logical to be talking to some of these dudes on here breh breh
 

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the most obvious player to build a team around in that class was towns and porzingis. passing on porzingis was the real mistake. id never pick Russell over porzingis which is why I had an issue with that pick.
Why couldn't a team pick porzingis then grab Cameron Payne later?

Lol breh sure you wouldnt even pick porzingis at 10 before draft
 

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Porzingis was not an obvious pick at all. That's blatant revisionism. He was still an unknown quantity.

you all keep saying that cause you didn't do research. Its not revisionism because I had him number two on my draft board. I had a board for which players I find better to pick and I had a board for which plahera teams were likely to pick. in the top ten I can't rememeber but I think I got 8/10.
Porzingis was an obvious pick if you paid attention. OKC promised him they'd pick him if he came out last year, there were also alot of rumours rotating around the two slot, embiid and cousins. I thought hinkie would be smart enough or knew enough to pick porzingis and that's why they were jockeying for the slot after towns. turns out Lakers pick a pg ( who I was convinced even if he was good wasn't worth that slot) philly picks okafor the known commodity who has an obviously open defensive flaw, Phil who has won championships picks zingis.

for the record even if they flop I've also stated that I really like Cameron Payne and Kelly oubre. They've both not gotten a lot of time so when they do well don't say its revisionist. I've been open about my picks
 

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you all keep saying that cause you didn't do research. Its not revisionism because I had him number two on my draft board. I had a board for which players I find better to pick and I had a board for which plahera teams were likely to pick. in the top ten I can't rememeber but I think I got 8/10.
Porzingis was an obvious pick if you paid attention. OKC promised him they'd pick him if he came out last year, there were also alot of rumours rotating around the two slot, embiid and cousins. I thought hinkie would be smart enough or knew enough to pick porzingis and that's why they were jockeying for the slot after towns. turns out Lakers pick a pg ( who I was convinced even if he was good wasn't worth that slot) philly picks okafor the known commodity who has an obviously open defensive flaw, Phil who has won championships picks zingis.

for the record even if they flop I've also stated that I really like Cameron Payne and Kelly oubre. They've both not gotten a lot of time so when they do well don't say its revisionist. I've been open about my picks


Kristaps was not an obvious pick, for most of the year he was pegged at 6-8, after the lottery he was supposedly going to the Pistons at 8. It wasn't until the workouts started that people were truly blown away and the only person who really viewed him as a top 2 pick before everyone else was Flip Saunders who loved him but had the top pick. He was promised a pick the year before by the Thunder at 21 which is outside the lottery.

Phil was also on the verge of trading that pick, the Hornets backed out of it at the last second so don't make it seem like he was some no-brainer.
 

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Lol breh sure you wouldnt even pick porzingis at 10 before draft
Lol breh sure you wouldnt even pick porzingis at 10 before draft

Sat Jun 13, 2015 5:34 am
1. Timberwolves: KAT
2. Lakers: Jahlil Okafor
3. 76ers: porzingis
4. Knicks: Russell
5. Orlando: Hezonja
6. Kings: wcs
7. Nuggets: mudiay
8. Pistons: Winslow
9. Hornets: Devan Booker
10. Heat: Oubre
11. Pacers: Myles Turner
12. Jazz: Stanley Johnson
13. Suns: Frank Kaminsky
14. Thunder: Cameron Payne

I've just copy pasted that from my account on real gm complete with date
He was number two on my board but really thought latest hinkie would be not pass on him. but okafor fell into his lap.
I had Miami picking oubre but Winslow fell in their lap. I knew one of the wings would fall based on team needs and promises they made
 

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I like the pick because it's getting harder to build a team around low post scoring Cs who aren't rim protectors. If you have Okafor on your squad as the starting C, the big that fits best next to him is a shot blocking floor spacer...which is currently the rarest player in basketball. After Porzingis, Davis, Ibaka, there aren't hardly any of those dudes in the league period.

Just look at Milwaukee. They went from a great defense last year (1st in Defensive Efficiency) with rim protector/hard roller to the rack Zaza at C to a weak defense (LAST in D Efficiency) with Greg Monroe, who is not a rim protector or roller to the rack off the Pick and Roll.

These back to the basket scoring Cs who can't protect the rim (Enes Kanter, Monroe, probably Okafor) are going to get attacked all day in this era of small-ball. Can Oak defend out in space, a must in an era where constant switching is the norm? I could be wrong but I don't see it happening.

The league is outside-in now as opposed to inside-out like it was in the past. I'd much rather have a playmaking Guard who can shoot, pass, and rebound like Russell than an offensively skilled but plodding C like Okafor. Much easier to build around a perimeter guy than a low post guy.
GS was 1st in defensive efficiency last year
 
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you all keep saying that cause you didn't do research. Its not revisionism because I had him number two on my draft board.
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Having him at #2 on YOUR draft board doesn't make him an obvious pick. I was well aware of Porzingis' potential before the draft - yet he was still a teenager who played in the Liga Endesa whose main body of work for his draft stock rise was through workouts (that alone makes him not an obvious pick). KAT was an obvious pick, not Porzingis.

You can not be 19, play a few seasons in a Spanish league, with a limited workload and be deemed an obvious top lottery pick.
Porzingis was an obvious pick if you paid attention. OKC promised him they'd pick him if he came out last year, there were also alot of rumours rotating around the two slot, embiid and cousins.
The Thunder promised to pick him because they were outside of the lottery at the time.
I thought hinkie would be smart enough or knew enough to pick porzingis and that's why they were jockeying for the slot after towns. turns out Lakers pick a pg ( who I was convinced even if he was good wasn't worth that slot) philly picks okafor the known commodity who has an obviously open defensive flaw, Phil who has won championships picks zingis.
Phil also refused to keep up with the recent trends in the league, and made himself look silly -



The four teams that have taken the most 3-pters in the post season -

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The four teams that took the most 3-pters during the regular season -

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Phil's view isn't above reproach, certainly not in today's climate.

Porzingis was a high risk, high reward prospect - he could've easily fallen into the same typecast that many European players do crossing over to the NBA.
 

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you all keep saying that cause you didn't do research. Its not revisionism because I had him number two on my draft board. I had a board for which players I find better to pick and I had a board for which plahera teams were likely to pick. in the top ten I can't rememeber but I think I got 8/10.
Porzingis was an obvious pick if you paid attention. OKC promised him they'd pick him if he came out last year, there were also alot of rumours rotating around the two slot, embiid and cousins. I thought hinkie would be smart enough or knew enough to pick porzingis and that's why they were jockeying for the slot after towns. turns out Lakers pick a pg ( who I was convinced even if he was good wasn't worth that slot) philly picks okafor the known commodity who has an obviously open defensive flaw, Phil who has won championships picks zingis.

for the record even if they flop I've also stated that I really like Cameron Payne and Kelly oubre. They've both not gotten a lot of time so when they do well don't say its revisionist. I've been open about my picks

Blah blah blah nikka. Porzingis was viewed as the yearly overhyped euro pick before he actually had a chance to show he could ball. The tools were there but no one thought he had the mental makeup that you need to make it in the nba. Most of those overhyped euro players end up being soft and bust
 

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Having him at #2 on YOUR draft board doesn't make him an obvious pick. I was well aware of Porzingis' potential before the draft - yet he was still a teenager who played in the Liga Endesa whose main body of work for his draft stock rise was through workouts (that alone makes him not an obvious pick). KAT was an obvious pick, not Porzingis.

You can not be 19, play a few seasons in a Spanish league, with a limited workload and be deemed an obvious top lottery pick.

The Thunder promised to pick him because they were outside of the lottery at the time.

Phil also refused to keep up with the recent trends in the league, and made himself look silly -



The four teams that have taken the most 3-pters in the post season -

InfyPPU.png


The four teams that took the most 3-pters during the regular season -

zKGclgh.png


Phil's view isn't above reproach, certainly not in today's climate.

Porzingis was a high risk, high reward prospect - he could've easily fallen into the same typecast that many European players do crossing over to the NBA.


I said he was an obvious pick for me and that's why I had him slated there. You said it had not been and I was being revisionist. Posting all that stuff you just did doesn't refute anything I said about my finding him an obvious pick and slated him high
 

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I said he was an obvious pick for me and that's why I had him slated there. You said it had not been and I was being revisionist. Posting all that stuff you just did doesn't refute anything I said about my finding him an obvious pick and slated him high

Who cares you are stll wrong, russell will be a much better player
 
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