Kyrie Irving has asked the Cavs to trade him; Lebron blindsided by trade request

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Swagnificent said:
Fukk outta here. Kyrie was already an all-star and 20+ppg scorer at 21 years old before LeBron joined him. He was being called the next Chris Paul aka future best PG in the league. Since then he's not really moved up any. If anything his standing has fallen as guys like Steph Curry, John Wall, and Russell Westbrook have gotten all the PG love.

Kyrie views himself as good as them. And early on before LeBron came most people thought he had the potential to be as good as them as well. But now with LeBron he's had his game diminished at every turn.
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David_TheMan said:
IT is walking they get Kyrie for IT that is a win for them.
The only young guy they lose is Brown
and they lose Morris.

Seems like a fair trade to me, they get to pair Kyrie with Gordon and fix their PG situation.
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IT is not walking and they don't have a pg situation. And they aren't letting Brown or Morris go. We already know this.
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Kyrie is better then IT
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He wasnt this year. And hes definitely not worth IT, Brown, and Morris.
 
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Using Kyrie's first LeBronless years in the NBA as a measuring stick as to how Kyrie will perform as a number 1 option going forward, is a bad comparison, because even LBJ would've lead those Cavs team's Kyrie was on, to a 5th seed at best. Folks forget how bad Cleveland struggled when LBJ first cameback and even after acquiring Kevin Love. Think about it, in 2015 LBJ lead team was out of the Top3 in the East, even with Kevin Love, and Deion Waiters as roleplayers. Cleveland didn't take the reigns of the East until they got Shump and JR Smith, but up until than, folks were question if they would even get out of the East. We need to examine FULLY, the narrative that Cleveland was garbage with Kyrie leading them, and then ABRA KADABRA, LBJ showed up and Cleveland was a title contender. It took KEY trades and acquiring solid roleplayers for Cleveland to reach the Finals in year one, and that 2015 team that surrounded LBJ was leaps and bounds better than the one that surrounded a 19yr old Kyrie.
 
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Meh said:
Using Kyrie's first LeBronless years in the NBA as a measuring stick as to how Kyrie will perform as a number 1 option going forward, is a bad comparison, because even LBJ would've lead those Cavs team's Kyrie was on, to a 5th seed at best. Folks forget how bad Cleveland struggled when LBJ first cameback and even after acquiring Kevin Love. Think about it, in 2015 LBJ lead team was out of the Top3 in the East, even with Kevin Love, and Deion Waiters as roleplayers. Cleveland didn't take the reigns of the East until they got Shump and JR Smith, but up until than, folks were question if they would even get out of the East. We need to examine FULLY, the narrative that Cleveland was garbage with Kyrie leading them, and then ABRA KADABRA, LBJ showed up and Cleveland was a title contender. It took KEY trades and acquiring solid roleplayers for Cleveland to reach the Finals in year one, and that 2015 team that surrounded LBJ was leaps and bounds better than the one that surrounded a 19yr old Kyrie.
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But weren't those Kyrie teams better than the Cavs during Bron's last year there?
 
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Dray5K said:
But weren't those Kyrie teams better than the Cavs during Bron's last year there?
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I'm not even sure about that TBH. That 2007 Cavs team was mediocre, and he took them to the Finals. But those other Cavs teams going forward were actually pretty good. Not worldbeaters, but hardly teams that one would look at and say "LBJ is surrounded by bums". Those teams were better than the Kyrie teams. IMHO. I just think folks need to be honest about Kyrie's first years in Cleveland instead of running with these lazy narratives.
 
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Meh said:
I'm not even sure about that TBH. That 2007 Cavs team was mediocre, and he took them to the Finals. But those other Cavs teams going forward were actually pretty good. Not worldbeaters, but hardly teams that one would look at and say "LBJ is surrounded by bums". Those teams were better than the Kyrie teams. IMHO. I just think folks need to be honest about Kyrie's first years in Cleveland instead of running with these lazy narratives.
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Didn't the Cavs suck with LeBron on the bench last year? :jbhmm:
 
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KRiLL (+) said:
what heat? im asking a legit question... :dwillhuh: they won a ring last season and nikkas still hate... :dead:
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Breh you aint gonna get any legit response, I've long since realized that this forum is mostly comprised of Bron haters/Kobe stans. Sad thing is they don't even realize that they talk about him way more than any of the few Bron stans on this board do
 
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