Kool Moe Dee, Ice-T, Canibus ,Etc : Is LL Cool J Undefeated in Terms of His Battle Record?

[No_bammer_weed]

I dont know about that KMD shyt y’all yappin about, so I’ll stay outta that.

Folks say ‘Bis got LL on 2nd round, but remember if you wanna talk about that battle, you gotta include 5,4,3,2,1 and LL absolutely fried that nikka canibus to a crisp on that one. Every bar from LL is unnecessarily vulgar and humiliating

 

[Cuban Pete]

He smoked all those fools, winning battles isnt about being the best lyricist or having the best set ups (unless its URL format), its about coming with the right aggression, braggadociousness and fukk you energy

















I promise you there aint TEN rappers that could do a battle track better than LL, and the ones that CAN, are OBVIOUS GOAT contenders... the Cubes, Nas, Pacs of the rap game

nikkas be sleeping on my dawg cause he did his acting thing and went commercial... LL is who Drake thinks he is, smooth operator, ladies man that could go to WAR

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

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I'll even wait for the studio audience to applaud
Now watch me rip the tat from your arm
Kick you in the groin, stick you for your Vanguard award
In front of your mom, your first, second, and third born
Make your wife get on the horn, call minister Farrakhan
So he could persuade me to squash it, I say, "Naw, he started it"
He forgot what a hardcore artist is
A hardcore artist is a dangerous man, such as myself
Trained to run twenty miles in soft sand
On or off land, programmed to kick hundreds of bars off hand
From a lost and forgotten land, you done did it, man
You done spitted some whack shyt
And probably thought that because it's been a minute I'll forget it
fukk that, 'cause like Common and Cube, I see the bytch in you
And I'ma make the world see it too, motherfukker

this is actually tame to "rip the jacker". Now LL had been yapping for year and I thought "back where I belong" was a great diss song to Canibus. , but then He released "rip the jacker" and it was BRUTAL. LL left him the fukk alone after that. It was 4 verses of terror. Peep the end of the 2nd verse

I'm hardcore, cum shot right in your wife's face
You soft porn, you held hands on the first date
See when you was making records like I need love
Your homie Cornell was givin' it to you up the butt
Plus I heard Simone was the high school slut
And she learned how to fukk before she knew how to cuss

LL's friend Cornell was gay and died of AIDS and LL even let it be known that he and Simone were always separating and doing their own thing on the side before finally marrying. Then he starts off the 3rd verse....


You married a slut and had kids with her to cover up your hustle
You and your man Russell made a better couple
Your probably mad as fukk, wondering where I got the information from
Your being watched even when you take a dump
Its impossible to front, you can't hide
The chairs at your label got ears and the walls got eyes
Your living one big lie the world just don't know
You take a polygraph test that shyt would probably explode

 

[Awesome Wells]

the canibus battle was definitely my favorite. canibus came hard but LL swatted him like a fly. "99 percent of your fans dont exist"

Bis takes a #dogset sized L for this interview, too

Canibus Clears Up Suspect Line On LL COOL J Diss ‘Second Round K.O.’

Canibus' 1998 diss track to LL COOL J, "Second Round K.O.," is full of scathing bars, but it also includes what many in today's game would deem a suspect bar.

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That LL line is what stuck with me the most from that Canibus situation, lol.

Rappers fall for the trap with dude too much. He baits dudes into these things because he lives to battle. Kid N Play said "To Da Break of Dawn" was so good that they begged LL to let them put it in House Party before LL's album even came out with it on it. HAHA!!

This n*gga said Hammer was his old gym teacher. LOL!!

“Gimme a lighter, woof/
Now you're cut loose, from that Jheri curl juice/
Cool J is back on the map/
And when I see ya, I'ma give you a slap/
That's right, a little kick for that crap/
'Cause my old gym teacher ain't supposed to rap..“

I respect Ice a lot, and even he was like, "Nah, he got us on that song. He mentioned the perm and ponytail I had back then." LOL!!

"A brother with a perm deserves to get burned".

He went a little crazy on Ice. This line was crazy and went over a lot of people's heads.

“I ain't Murray the cop,
Nor am I Felix, but I got a bag of tricks/
Mr. Pusherman, gimme a fix/
So I can show you I'm immune to them romper room tunes/
You little hip-hop racc00n”

That sh*t was a clinic. Serious masterclass on how to do a diss record.

 

[boogers]

Your being watched even when you take a dump

 

[Elim Garak]

No he lost to Jay-Z

 

[Awesome Wells]

That dude is weird as a MF!!

 

[surv2syn]

fukk no. KMD was serving him something serious and Canibus got him. shyt, KMD fukked him up on stage. I remember seeing the picture in an issue of Rapmasters back in the day wondering why the fukk LL was on stage with KMD and then KMD told the story about it along with Red Alert and others. Nah, LL, like Drake, was able to stay afloat due to the machine behind him and female fanbase. 30 years from now, the people will try to erase Drake getting his ass handed to him by Kendrick, Pusha T, and Joe Budden. So he will be able to make that claim as well. Btw, I'm an LL fan and I will be buying his new album, but I'm not going to lie for him.

L was my favorite and my GOAT at the time of KMD battle and KMD murdered him. I took pride in LL seemingly outlasting and being proclaimed the winner when in my heart I was crushed. He dragged L on Arsenio too. To be honest, L was lucky to be at the status he was or he would’ve been Ja Rule. It was close to career ending in real time because people were saying …Panther was weak and Jingling Baby remix literally saved his ass.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

L was my favorite and my GOAT at the time of KMD battle and KMD murdered him. I took pride in LL seemingly outlasting and being proclaimed the winner when in my heart I was crushed. He dragged L on Arsenio too. To be honest, L was lucky to be at the status he was or he would’ve been Ja Rule. It was close to career ending in real time because people were saying …Panther was weak and Jingling Baby remix literally saved his ass.

it was weak. Dude was literally booed on stage at a show in NY(that he discussed in a Source interview at the time). He repackaged himself, got with Marley to do a whole album, appeared in the IH video "black and proud" while adding a track like "illegal search" to Mama Said Knock You Out in the pro black era and it saved his career.

 

[Tommy Gibbs]

That dude is weird as a MF!!

shut yo bytchazz up. Mf I'm in here quoting a whole verse and this fakkit decides to take one line to post. You faggat ass nikkas got gay on yall mind every day all day. You're probably thinking about dik right now as you're reading this. Gay ass in the closet homosexual azz nikkas. FUK OUTTA HERE!!

 

[boogers]

shut yo bytchazz up. Mf I'm in here quoting a whole verse and this fakkit decides to take one line to post. You faggat ass nikkas got gay on yall mind every day all day. You're probably thinking about dik right now as you're reading this. Gay ass in the closet homosexual azz nikkas. FUK OUTTA HERE!!

i get called all kinda mean shyt on thecoli. i just laugh it off... but now im wondering

why are you so upset?



the line quoted was about taking a shyt.. nobody said anything gay, no dames were even dropped.. yet YOU bring up gay shyt

go look in the mirror... thats the only person thinkin about dikk in here

now go paint your nails

 

[Awesome Wells]

shut yo bytchazz up. Mf I'm in here quoting a whole verse and this fakkit decides to take one line to post. You faggat ass nikkas got gay on yall mind every day all day. You're probably thinking about dik right now as you're reading this. Gay ass in the closet homosexual azz nikkas. FUK OUTTA HERE!!

You good, bro?

 

[LevelUp]

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I just be putting random numbers in there when they ask bro lol

 

[DontEemTry]

Moe Dee got in that ass


And he did it with that old school 1982 ass flow as well.

 

[Why-Fi]

I was 1 years old when the Kool Moe Dee battle started. So if someone were to say I’m not qualified to speak on that battle Id accept it. That said when I listen back to the tracks Kool Moe Dee won pretty clearly. “Let’s go” cleared everything LL did. How ya like me now was flames too. I’d need someone who was there to explain impact though as LL was declared the winner

Canibus out rapped LL as well. The perception was that LL won simply cause he was the bigger artist and kept going while Canibus career stalled. But if you look at greatness diss songs ever 2nd round KO is always there where ripper strikes back is hardly ever there. So how did L actually win?

lets go was crazy