Lakerman0834
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1) which guard won 3 titles with shaq
2) AD/Wade/Bosh/ kyrie all better than any second option kobe had and he won 2 rings. Give him Lebrons roster from 2011 hes winning 6-7 minimum
Kobe Was Ridiculous
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2) AD/Wade/Bosh/ kyrie all better than any second option kobe had and he won 2 rings. Give him Lebrons roster from 2011 hes winning 6-7 minimum
Take Pippen off the Bulls and Jordan doesn't win a single playoff series. Sidekicks are still sidekicks
Mister Terrific
It’s in the name
Uhh we saw an old Kobe with Steve Nash and Dwight Howard. What the hell is he gonna do with an Anthony Davis out 1/3rd or every season
Pau Gasol perfectly complimented Kobe as he was an elite defender and great rebounder. You think Kobe wouldnt murder Chris Bosh and Kyrie Irving? How would Kobe and Dwade function together?I’ll do you one better. Give Lebron out of high school a prime Shaq averaging 30-14-3-2 on 56% shooting and Lebron is winning 6 in a row. Lebrons not shooting the Lakers out of the championship in 2005 against the Pistons. Colorado doesn’t happen. Him and Shaq ain’t beefing. Hell they probably win in 99. Lebron dishing to Glen Rice in the corner
Is any of this factual? No. Because we don’t know how teams would fit together after the fact. NBA GM’s can’t figure it out. Durant, Thompson and Steph Curry only won 2 rings tougher.
Ozymandeas
Veteran
Uhh we saw an old Kobe with Steve Nash and Dwight Howard. What the hell is he gonna do with an Anthony Davis out 1/3rd or every season
I’ll do you one better. Give Lebron out of high school a prime Shaq averaging 30-14-3-2 on 56% shooting and Lebron is winning 6 in a row. Lebrons not shooting the Lakers out of the championship in 2005 against the Pistons. Colorado doesn’t happen. Him and Shaq ain’t beefing. Hell they probably win in 99. Lebron dishing to Glen Rice in the corner
Is any of this factual? No. Because we don’t know how teams would fit together after the fact. NBA GM’s can’t figure it out. Durant, Thompson and Steph Curry only won 2 rings tougher.
You're a bozo for comparing Dwight Howard to Anthony Davis. Not only is AD comically much better than Dwight, Dwight played in LA with Kobe for one season compared to AD playing with Bron for four. Yall just lie about everything. How did yall pass in school always twisting and stretching and distorting information
Why don't you post about any Blazers players? Aren't you a Trail Blazers fan?How did I derail when 3 people brought up Bron before me?
I virtually never derail shyt - I responded to a Kobestan who tried to derail the thread to talk about Bron just 6 posts in.
Y'all don't even realize that I hardly ever start these topics, I just respond. If y'all weren't obsessed with him, I wouldn't even bring him up.
Bron stans aren't the ones who brought Bron into the thread 6 posts in, nor are they the ones who created a dozen stan threads the moment Bron was eliminated.
You're arguing about him in more threads than I am right now, so by that count you care about Bron even more than I do.
Kobe won 3 rings in 8 seasons with Shaq and lost to Duncan twice and the 04 Pistons. He ain't beating the Spurs in 2013 and 2014, Warriors in 2015 without Kyrie/Love, Warriors in 2016, the KD Warriors, and he definitely ain't winning with AD since he was passed his prime by 34.
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HollywoodP
#LongLive24 #TMC America's Team, Lakeshow, & ASU
Kobe the GOAT. Most clutch player ever. I seen so many of these in real time. This wasnt even all of em. Kobe was smart about it too. Look how many game winners he had where they were down and he wouldnt wait til the last second to start the offense. My biggest gripe with some of the Lakers offense nowadays.
Why don't you post about any Blazers players? Aren't you a Trail Blazers fan?
Wrote multiple long-ass posts about Sabonis just yesterday, and posted on Blazer draft/trade options and Dame's future a few days before that.
But why the constant deflections? I responded to some dumb Bron slander with simple, undeniable facts, and since I posted that there's been nothing but personal attacks on me. Why no one dealing with the facts? Hmmm....
madness
Taking my talents to South Beach
The Little Laker boy definitely had his clutch moments
Dwight Howard
Superstar
Sorry to break it to you but lebron wouldn't be able to score with Shaq clogging the paint. His jumper was borderline garbage coming in into the league. A prime lebron had to have guys like Bosh and love on the perimeter to operate. A young lebron would look like lamar Odom playing with Shaq.Uhh we saw an old Kobe with Steve Nash and Dwight Howard. What the hell is he gonna do with an Anthony Davis out 1/3rd or every season
I’ll do you one better. Give Lebron out of high school a prime Shaq averaging 30-14-3-2 on 56% shooting and Lebron is winning 6 in a row. Lebrons not shooting the Lakers out of the championship in 2005 against the Pistons. Colorado doesn’t happen. Him and Shaq ain’t beefing. Hell they probably win in 99. Lebron dishing to Glen Rice in the corner
Is any of this factual? No. Because we don’t know how teams would fit together after the fact. NBA GM’s can’t figure it out. Durant, Thompson and Steph Curry only won 2 rings tougher.
This take is dumb as hell. You seriously think defenders were going to leave Shaq open next to the basket in order to challenge Bron in the lane? You don't realize Bron gonna drop an alley-oop to Shaq the moment that happened? You don't know shyt about basketball.
Bron was scoring 30ppg in Cleveland with fat useless 40yo Shaq in the middle of the court, but you think he would have struggled to play with prime Shaq.
Yeah, wrong. This is what his jumper looked like in literally his first game:
Bron's jumper needed work but it wasn't "garbage". Shot 35% from 3pt at 19 and 40% from long midrange the next year. Overall his jumper %'s for his first seven years in Cleveland were pretty much the same as Kobe's career averages, though Kobe was taking tougher shots. He wasn't an elite shooter yet but he wasn't garbage either.
This was Cleveland's postseason 3pt shooting #'s for the 2006 squad:
PG: Eric Snow (0-1)
SG: Larry Hughes (5-18)
PF: Drew Gooden (0-0)
C: Zydrunas Iglauskas (0-0)
That ain't series numbers, that's the ENTIRE postseason.
Hughes didn't even play in the Detroit wins, and Flip Murray who took his place was an even worse 5-24 for the postseason. That's the supporting cast that rolled up the Wizards and took the Pistons to 7....they had ZERO shooting. Entire starting lineup outside of Bron made just 5 fukking threes in 13 games combined. Bron, meanwhile, was 21-63 from three-point for those same 13 games. Who the fukk was giving him space besides himself?
Spacing got better from 2007 on after they got rid of Snow, but was still never great.
Let's compare that to the early Shaq Lakers
1999:
PG: Derek Fisher (10-29)
SF: Glen Rice (10-28)
PF: J.R. Reid (0-0)
C: Shaq (0-0)
(Kobe was 8-23)
2000:
PG: Ron Harper (9-39)
SF: Glen Rice (28-67)
PF: Robert Horry (17-59) - AC Green started, but Horry played more minutes
C: Shaq (0-0)
(Kobe was 22-64)
Bron playing with Fisher, Rice, Horry, Fox, etc. on top of Shaq's gravity would have had far better spacing than he did on those Cleveland squads.
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Mister Terrific
It’s in the name
This take is dumb as hell. You seriously think defenders were going to leave Shaq open next to the basket in order to challenge Bron in the lane? You don't realize Bron gonna drop an alley-oop to Shaq the moment that happened? You don't know shyt about basketball.
Bron was scoring 30ppg in Cleveland with fat useless 40yo Shaq in the middle of the court, but you think he would have struggled to play with prime Shaq.
Yeah, wrong. This is what his jumper looked like in literally his first game:
Bron's jumper needed work but it wasn't "garbage". Shot 35% from 3pt at 19 and 40% from long midrange the next year. Overall his jumper %'s for his first seven years in Cleveland were pretty much the same as Kobe's career averages, though Kobe was taking tougher shots. He wasn't an elite shooter yet but he wasn't garbage either.
This was Cleveland's postseason 3pt shooting #'s for the 2006 squad:
PG: Eric Snow (0-1)
SG: Larry Hughes (5-18)
PF: Drew Gooden (0-0)
C: Zydrunas Iglauskas (0-0)
That ain't series numbers, that's the ENTIRE postseason.
Hughes didn't even play in the Detroit wins, and Flip Murray who took his place was an even worse 5-24 for the postseason. That's the supporting cast that rolled up the Wizards and took the Pistons to 7....they had ZERO shooting. Entire starting lineup outside of Bron made just 5 fukking threes in 13 games combined. Bron, meanwhile, was 21-63 from three-point for those same 13 games. Who the fukk was giving him space besides himself?
Spacing got better from 2007 on after they got rid of Snow, but was still never great.
Let's compare that to the early Shaq Lakers
1999:
PG: Derek Fisher (10-29)
SF: Glen Rice (10-28)
PF: J.R. Reid (0-0)
C: Shaq (0-0)
(Kobe was 8-23)
2000:
PG: Ron Harper (9-39)
SF: Glen Rice (28-67)
PF: Robert Horry (17-59) - AC Green started, but Horry played more minutes
C: Shaq (0-0)
(Kobe was 22-64)
Bron playing with Fisher, Rice, Horry, Fox, etc. on top of Shaq's gravity would have had far better spacing than he did on those Cleveland squads.
Cooked em
Yes AD is much better than Lakers Dwight Howard, when he is on the floor. Is that AD’s problem or have you been living under a rock?You're a bozo for comparing Dwight Howard to Anthony Davis. Not only is AD comically much better than Dwight, Dwight played in LA with Kobe for one season compared to AD playing with Bron for four. Yall just lie about everything. How did yall pass in school always twisting and stretching and distorting information
