"Kobe "sabotaged" games in high school to win them at the end" - Phil Jackson

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Is Kobe doing the same thing now? Not a hate thread, but all I'm asking is why did it take a 3rd of the season for Kobe to stop shooting over 2 defenders?


He timing couldn't have been better, everyone from Dwight, to Pau, to Mike Brown, to Pringles, was pretty much castigated and thrown under the bus....sooner or later reporters were going to start looking at Kobe.

He kind of shot the Lakers into a hole and now he's digging them out with ball movement...making him the hero.

It's like someone claiming credit for bringing you to an emergency room for your fractured skull...meanwhile, they're the one who cracked your head with a baseball bat.

 

[ThugLife]

Where is the source of that quote

 

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Whee is the source of that quote

Phil Jackson's book...give me a bit while I find a link.

 

[Arcavian]

Old sabo

 

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Where is the source of that quote

“To be completely fair, there were a couple things I did over the years to alienate Kobe. The most glaring example was the interview I gave in 2001 to Rick Telander, a writer I knew in Chicago. Rick asked if I believed Kobe was the heir apparent to Michael Jordan. Assuming, naively in retrospect, that a conversation after the official interview was off the record, I mentioned to Rick that I had been told that in high school Kobe “sabotaged” games to keep them close enough for him to dominate at the end. Needless to say, the quotes appeared verbatim in Rick’s story, sparking a major uproar. (Kobe has never forgiven me. Last Spring, during a particularly acrimonious team meeting, Rick Fox complained to Kobe and Shaq. “The thing that hurts us about this season,” Fox said, “is that both of you have acted like you’re apart from us, and that we’re not any good. We have won championships for each other, sacrificing, and all of a sudden, you turn your backs on us.” Shaq, clearly affected, began to respond when Kobe cut him off. “Quit your crying,” Kobe said. I then jumped in. “Kobe, you’re as much to blame as Shaq is, if not more.” “You’re the one who should f***ing talk,” he said. “You said I sabotaged games.”


Bashing Kobe: Excerpts from

 

[mastermind]

so Phil Jackson said he heard it and wanted it off the record. Writer writes an article using that quote. Kobe confronts Jackson on it, and Jackson backs down = fact?

 

[ThugLife]

“To be completely fair, there were a couple things I did over the years to alienate Kobe. The most glaring example was the interview I gave in 2001 to Rick Telander, a writer I knew in Chicago. Rick asked if I believed Kobe was the heir apparent to Michael Jordan. Assuming, naively in retrospect, that a conversation after the official interview was off the record, I mentioned to Rick that I had been told that in high school Kobe “sabotaged” games to keep them close enough for him to dominate at the end. Needless to say, the quotes appeared verbatim in Rick’s story, sparking a major uproar. (Kobe has never forgiven me. Last Spring, during a particularly acrimonious team meeting, Rick Fox complained to Kobe and Shaq. “The thing that hurts us about this season,” Fox said, “is that both of you have acted like you’re apart from us, and that we’re not any good. We have won championships for each other, sacrificing, and all of a sudden, you turn your backs on us.” Shaq, clearly affected, began to respond when Kobe cut him off. “Quit your crying,” Kobe said. I then jumped in. “Kobe, you’re as much to blame as Shaq is, if not more.” “You’re the one who should f***ing talk,” he said. “You said I sabotaged games.”

Kobe is such a bytch nikka

 

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so Phil Jackson said he heard it and wanted it off the record. Writer writes an article using that quote. Kobe confronts Jackson on it, and Jackson backs down = fact?

Phil Jackson also said the writer quoted him verbatim. So it's not like he added anything. Also, if Phil had not heard the rumor from what he considered to be a credible source, why mention it? Lastly, Phil "assumed" it was off the record but never explicitly stated it - at least that's what I gathered from the excerpt. It's my guess that Phil wanted the writer to go public with the info, why else would he even mention it. He is the Zen Master.

 

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More Phil:

“We were playing solid team ball, a rarity this season, although, as usual, Kobe seemed intent on taking over. “Get me the f***ing ball,” he said on his way to the bench, a demand Kobe had never verbalized. I smiled, didn’t say a word, and went to chart a play on the clipboard. I sometimes think Kobe is so addicted to being in control that he would rather shoot the ball when guarded, or even double-teamed, than dish it to an open teammate.

“They’re making you get in your attack mode,” I told him when he came off the floor during a timeout late in the game. “You’re going to have to pass the ball. They’re not calling the fouls for you.” He was in no mood to back down. “I’m going to f***ing crush them,” he said. “I just haven’t found my shooting yet.”

 

[MoneyTron]

Yes, that's exactly what he's doing.

That was 10 years ago. Things change. You act like Kobe hasn't been thrown under the bus for his shooting before. People have been doing that to him for his whole career and I really doubt he gives a fukk about what the media would say. Desperate times call for desperate measures. Is it too much to think that the change in offensive style and a team meeting would lead to Kobe and Nash adapting new roles?

 

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Yes, that's exactly what he's doing.

That was 10 year ago.

10 minutes ago he was shooting the lakers into last place in the West...5 minutes ago he decides to pass and they win three out of their last 4.

 

[Yayo Toure]

Kobe's will to win and dominate should be an example to us all.

 

[MoneyTron]

10 minutes ago he was shooting the lakers into last place in the West...5 minutes ago he decides to pass and they win three out of their last 4.

They also changed their whole offensive system. They aren't running anything Pringles related out there. That offense is being run straight through Kobe.

 

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They also changed their whole offensive system. They aren't running anything Pringles related out there. That offense is being run straight through Kobe.

Yes, that is true also.

 

[TheNig]

Yes, that is true also.

So if you're not hating, then what's your point?