KKKyle KKKulinski twerking for Putin/Russia

[Outlaw]

I'm neither US or Chinese citizen and I'm not interested in moving to either country. I don't care what either country do to their own citizens, just what they do to other countries. US had supported coups and massacres in numerous countries and invaded several other in a crusade to spread "democracy" compared to that China and Russia having beef with their neighbors over territory is pretty understandable.

US isn’t perfect but there isn’t another country who is a threat to American hegemony that has a higher standard of living for its citizens. If other countries followed the American model like Japan, South Korea, Germany, Taiwan etc did then the world would be a much better place.

Compare those countries standards of living with countries that are influenced by China I.E North Korea or Russia with Syria or Belarus and it’s not even close.

 

[88m3]

I'm neither US or Chinese citizen and I'm not interested in moving to either country. I don't care what either country do to their own citizens, just what they do to other countries. US had supported coups and massacres in numerous countries and invaded several other in a crusade to spread "democracy" compared to that China and Russia having beef with their neighbors over territory is pretty understandable.

That isn't accurate and is frankly irrelevant to the matter at hand

 

[the next guy]

US isn’t perfect but there isn’t another country who is a threat to American hegemony that has a higher standard of living for its citizens. If other countries followed the American model like Japan, South Korea, Germany, Taiwan etc did then the world would be a much better place.

Compare those countries standards of living with countries that are influenced by China I.E North Korea or Russia with Syria or Belarus and it’s not even close.

China is a delevoped country now. I don't see Democracy as the american model ( and given the voter suppression which you're probably familiar with) I'm not sure the Americans system should be worth bragging about. Manchinema too. I prefer the westminster system (UK) over China, Russia and the US.

 

[the next guy]

breh really??? What kind of sense does that make?

NATO was formed explicitly because of Russia threatening Western Europe. What is the point of inviting in the country they're all vowing to mutually defend against? I'm not sure where all this Russia love has come from lately, oh wait...Facebook. Home of flat earth conspiracies.

You're not wrong at all. But Russia joining NATO would be simply to head off Chinese influence in the east. Now US is stumbling everywhere, Russia is in decline and China is close to running everything. Just IMO, that would be the case for it. Also Putin wouldn't be president under this plan.

 

[the next guy]

NATO exists because of Russia.

Also Kyle needs to be more nuanced in his coverage on this. Geopolitics isn't as simple as USA bad, Russia good. Both countries want power and both do provacative act to obtain it.

My Take on this is the same.

 

[wtfyomom]

breh the US literally Just couped Ukraines government not that long ago by propping up nazis but now they like "Ukraine deserves its soverienty respected to join NATO " lmfao theyre so full of shyt

 

[Json]

NATO was formed to protect against the USSR. USSR was disbanded in 1990.

Both Gorbachev and Putin had proposed the idea of Russia joining NATO.

Expansion of NATO is what has been driving tensions between US and Russia. Russia rightfully fears NATO expansion on its border especially since The West had promised they wouldn’t expand NATO back in the 90s.

I don’t know why y’all act like Russia is being irrational in this situation. The US would do the same. Hell, The US is still holding a grudge against a tiny island nation which poses absolutely no threat to its existence.

Because it’s Russian internal actions like killing critics and consolidating power in fewer hands that made these Eastern block countries want to join NATO.

You’re acting like Russia shooting up a club sending people running is rightfully to be upset to be standing alone?

Your example is exactly the problem with Russia. Older Cubans and old politicians keep that feud going for political gain. As soon as someone younger like Obama tried to move pass it those older forces freaked out.

So instead of Putin moving on from the Presidency in the early 2000s. He just installed a puppet and came back. And no one with any vision against his( or his backers) is ever going to get power.


I’m not saying Russia needs to bow to the west but the fact they can’t move beyond Soviet era wishing is holding them back. There is no reason Russia and Ukraine can’t be economically close with separate government except Putin doesn’t want to.

 

[Chronic]

There is no reason Russia and Ukraine can’t be economically close with separate government except Putin doesn’t want to.

Ukraine and Russia had separate government and economically close until Western countries toppled Ukraine's pro Russian government. Belarus also has separate government and Russia doesn't try to annex them yet Western countries still bytching about Belarus being Russia's puppet.

 

[Json]

Ukraine and Russia had separate government and economically close until Western countries toppled Ukraine's pro Russian government. Belarus also has separate government and Russia doesn't try to annex them yet Western countries still bytching about Belarus being Russia's puppet.

Based on the wording I know where this is going but I’ll play anyway.

Separate government means sometimes people who aren’t Pro-Russia will get elected cause Russian interest aren’t high priority to internal interest of a separate government.

 

[Cole Cash]

I don’t know enough about Indonesia to comment but America and western civilization as a whole is a net positive for the world. If Russia or China was in the position of America you would see a true dystopia to bytch about. Just look at how those countries treat their own citizens.

....millions...literally millions of dead communists their families were murdered. "i dont know enough about Indonesia to comment" well mayeb you shouldnt.

Guera Sucia in mexico was nearly just as bad and that went on from 64-83, again, murder, rape and death. "a net positive for the world" this is insane.

 

[Broke Wave]

Ukraine and Russia had separate government and economically close until Western countries toppled Ukraine's pro Russian government. Belarus also has separate government and Russia doesn't try to annex them yet Western countries still bytching about Belarus being Russia's puppet.

Another breh dropping truth bombs


2014 they did a fake colour revolution in Ukraine and now they want to blame Russi

 

[Broke Wave]

My Take on this is the same.

Your take on TPLF and Ukraine are strikingly similar : muddy the waters with so called “nuance” to launder western aggression. You are a morally bankrupt agent of power.

 

[the next guy]

Your take on TPLF and Ukraine are strikingly similar : muddy the waters with so called “nuance” to launder western aggression. You are a morally bankrupt agent of power.

That's not what I mean at all. I'm just saying Russia could take a different path than troops in Ukraine. It's well known the west broke their promise to Gorbachev re: Nato. I'm just not sure it's worth it.

I don’t know enough about Indonesia to comment but America and western civilization as a whole is a net positive for the world. If Russia or China was in the position of America you would see a true dystopia to bytch about. Just look at how those countries treat their own citizens.

China is already in that position and not much has changed.

 

[Broke Wave]

That's not what I mean at all. I'm just saying Russia could take a different path than troops in Ukraine. It's well known the west broke their promise to Gorbachev re: Nato. I'm just not sure it's worth it.

China is already in that position and not much has changed.

Abti troops in Ukraine my ass

NATO membership for Ukraine would mean a massive security risk for Russia. That’s a massive largely undefended border that would have to be manned in order to prevent NATO infiltration. Whether or not you like the Russian state you have to understand the concept of sovereignty as it pertains to non white nations, an impossible feat for apologist of impearlism like yourself.

 

[Cuban Pete]

US isn’t perfect but there isn’t another country who is a threat to American hegemony that has a higher standard of living for its citizens. If other countries followed the American model like Japan, South Korea, Germany, Taiwan etc did then the world would be a much better place.

Compare those countries standards of living with countries that are influenced by China I.E North Korea or Russia with Syria or Belarus and it’s not even close.

1000 percent facts, mixed economies ftw