King Yella on Durk b4 rap: "what reputation? That shyt came after rap"...

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Relevant bump, different Chicago guy, on a different platform, fast forward to 4:00 if it doesn't catch timestamp:



Swipa says "Durk was scared of Von, Durk ain't got the streets, Durk paid for friends, Von got the real members"...

Then at 7:30 or so, Vlad ask Swipa point blank, "what was Durk's criminal history before rap"?

And Swipa says Durk was around, would rob people and "do shyt", but his specific quote: "far as like a killer and all that? Nah man, it was just people around him"...

So I'm sure cats will run in here and say it's another Chicago nikka hating. From my understanding though, Swipa a rat who used to run with BD's and multiple Chicago heads verified he used to really be outside...

So Swipa's anecdotes should be viewed similar to how we view other rats who were really outside. Them being rats makes them corny and lames but it don't invalidate the things they actually did...

Last thing I'll say is, killers aren't afraid of other killers, shooters aren't afraid of shooters, and those of us who ran that lane can tell if you're one of us, I don't know how many times I've told people that I know guys who have killed people and that ain't them, they not really killers...

If a guy who used to run in that lane, has the perception that someone else ain't built for it, especially if you in or from the same general area the guy is from, you're probably right...

Like I said before, there are plenty of posts, accounts, people online, that have said for years, what Swipa and Yella are saying now. That pre-celebrity, Durk is from his side and was "around" but he wasn't no killer and wasn't the figure outside, that his rap persona suggests he is...
 
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Relevant bump, different Chicago guy, on a different platform, fast forward to 4:00 if it doesn't catch timestamp:



Swipa says "Durk was scared of Von, Durk ain't got the streets, Durk paid for friends, Von got the real members"...

So I'm sure cats will run in here and say it's another Chicago nikka hating. From my understanding though, Swipa a rat who used to run with BD's and multiple Chicago heads verified he used to really be outside...

So Swipa's anecdotes should be viewed similar to how we view other rats who were really outside. Them being rats makes them corny and lames but it don't invalidate the things they actually did...

Last thing I'll say is, killers aren't afraid of other killers, shooters aren't afraid of shooters. If a guy who used to run in that lane, has the perception that someone else ain't built for it, especially if you in or from the same general area the guy is from, you're probably right...

Like I said before, there are plenty of posts, accounts, people online, that have said for years, what Swipa and Yella are saying now. That pre-celebrity, Durk is from his side and was "around" but he wasn't no killer and wasn't the figure outside, that his rap persona suggests he is...

Cool story, you are way too invested in this degeneracy, what Durk eat ain’t gonna make you shyt:yeshrug:
 

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Relevant bump, different Chicago guy, on a different platform, fast forward to 4:00 if it doesn't catch timestamp:



Swipa says "Durk was scared of Von, Durk ain't got the streets, Durk paid for friends, Von got the real members"...

Then at 7:30 or so, Vlad ask Swipa point blank, "what was Durk's criminal history before rap"?

And Swipa says Durk was around, would rob people and "do shyt", but his specific quote: "far as like a killer and all that? Nah man, it was just people around him"...

So I'm sure cats will run in here and say it's another Chicago nikka hating. From my understanding though, Swipa a rat who used to run with BD's and multiple Chicago heads verified he used to really be outside...

So Swipa's anecdotes should be viewed similar to how we view other rats who were really outside. Them being rats makes them corny and lames but it don't invalidate the things they actually did...

Last thing I'll say is, killers aren't afraid of other killers, shooters aren't afraid of shooters, and those of us who ran that lane can tell if you're one of us, I don't know how many times I've told people that I know guys who have killed people and that ain't them, they not really killers...

If a guy who used to run in that lane, has the perception that someone else ain't built for it, especially if you in or from the same general area the guy is from, you're probably right...

Like I said before, there are plenty of posts, accounts, people online, that have said for years, what Swipa and Yella are saying now. That pre-celebrity, Durk is from his side and was "around" but he wasn't no killer and wasn't the figure outside, that his rap persona suggests he is...


This man don’t even know Lil Durk and known for running his mouth like a girl for real. He famous for being an informant, not a factor. It’s like the lamest nikka on your block trying to come outside talking about who was this and who was that. Like first of all, nikka shut up, and second of all, how you know? Ain’t like you the one going on missions with us, running spots with us, hitting licks with us, etc… So how the fukk you know who like what? You a hearsay ass nikka.
 

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Cool story, you are way too invested in this degeneracy, what Durk eat ain’t gonna make you shyt:yeshrug:
I hope you get the applause you're seeking, my brother 🤣 cause what I eat don't make you shyt, yet you make sure you follow me thread to thread...

My boy I'm not invested like that, yall conflate passing, casual interest with real investment. I speak on anything on here I have an interest in, the things I don't, I won't...

My interest in the Durk thing stems from a guy with the platform this guy had, crashing out this horribly, and had been doing so for years. It's a topic of interest to me and a mentality I don't understand, especially given, he's not really the portrayal of himself, and many Chicagoans for many years have said, nah that wasn't him. So it's interesting how he turned himself into that, when he was well beyond the point of having to. Von's demise is more understandable to me, he died the same way he lived, he wasn't big enough for long enough to be removed from his general background or nature...

What this really boils down to I have an understanding of the psychology of guys outside, and specifically guys who were routinely playing with guns...

Alota mf's all over the place still talking bout this Durk shyt. I can't apologize that me discussing it offends you, but I do hope you get the applause you're looking for!
 

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This man don’t even know Lil Durk and known for running his mouth like a girl for real. He famous for being an informant, not a factor. It’s like the lamest nikka on your block trying to come outside talking about who was this and who was that. Like first of all, nikka shut up, and second of all, how you know? Ain’t like you the one going on missions with us, running spots with us, hitting licks with us, etc… So how the fukk you know who like what? You a hearsay ass nikka.
You from the Chi so I'll take what you say. All I'll say is (I may ne fukking up the affiliations) but on other interviews them FBG guys or something said this Swipa dude used to be in The Field and it was a surprise when they found out he was an informant. But you're likely more knowledgeable of these guys than I am...
 

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I can agree with all this. And just to reiterate and be clear, I believe Durk was around and affiliated before he became a celebrity. I don't think this is some Lil Wayne shyt...

A nikka with Durk resources should be smarter than Durk is. You can mitigate a lot of the extra shyt if he behaves differently throughout his rise...

A situation I'm closer to, I said in another thread that Durk's story seems to parallel Mozzy's. That's another rapper who there's been a lot of killing and violence since he blew up, and you could trace the justifications the same way...

I've been very vocal about Mozzy for years and Durk fits the shoe too, these nikkas egos fueled alot of this shyt. You don't even get to the point where people are attacking yours like that, if you not publicly pushing that energy...
Yeah I didn't know about Mozzy stuff until recently, he basically a big reason his hood split into two and other wild shyt like 4-5 people died directly because of him.
 

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Yeah I didn't know about Mozzy stuff until recently, he basically a big reason his hood split into two and other wild shyt like 4-5 people died directly because of him.
Same profile as Durk. He was around and really from his side, but all that violent energy and killing, wasn't him pre-celebrity. As he got fame he got money and followers and his influence increased and he funneled that influence into the streets instead of moving away from em...
 

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This nikka been on a press tour about his street credibility since 2017. On the Coli of all places 🤣🤣 This nikka is no different from Wack 100, Bricc Baby, and all those busta azz nikkas who got a VLAD interview everyday of the week:laff: Nikka been trying to convince us since 2017. No one believes you Carl Winslow. This shyt here is disgusting. What “real nikka” doing what you doing?
If we let cats cap about working for legendary rap labels on the Coli. Homey should be able to cap all he want :mjlol:
 

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You from the Chi so I'll take what you say. All I'll say is (I may ne fukking up the affiliations) but on other interviews them FBG guys or something said this Swipa dude used to be in The Field and it was a surprise when they found out he was an informant. But you're likely more knowledgeable of these guys than I am...
Swipe was a robber also. He hung in oblock and then started running with fbg. He didn’t know durk tho.

But durk never talks bout being this super killer von. lol.

He said he saw durk shoot at fbg butta and them tho.

He just wasn’t this super killer and he didn’t pay his way to be with the killers. He grew up with them and was always with them.

Von and durk not from the same hood. Two different areas. I don’t think durk was scared of Von either in anyway. He just knew he couldn’t tell Von what to do.

One of Von friends talks bout not liking dirk cause Von asked dirk for some money to buy his homie something and durk told him nah he ain’t giving it to him.
 
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