King Yella on Durk b4 rap: "what reputation? That shyt came after rap"...

[murksiderock]

Who cares? He became a tough guy living his raps right?

The equivalent to this, in a non-celebrity example, is a guy who had no reputation as a kid then grows into an adult with a successful career, but while having that career simultaneously feeds bullshyt in the streets...

I knew someone who wasn't known as anything young, other than a guy from the hood. He was around. Learned from and basically took on his dad's business, of whatever you call dudes who build houses. So homie made good money from that, but still was always mobbing with guys in the set. Became a "big homie" type to nikkas younger than us...

Fam wasn't/isn't no mark, he grew up in the hood and was affiliating early, but he wasn't out clapping shyt up. He did go to jail in his mid-20s for shooting it out with these dudes, got out on probation. Always had guns and some paper, young nikkas followed him because there's always a type of nikka who get off on being a "gang leader" type...

Only difference here is, homie can't say he was outside tearing shyt up as a kid because everyone knows he wasn't. He don't do that and we know he'll shake if he need to, but I can't say nikkas in our age bracket view him as a gangsta...

So you could say homie became a tough guy as an adult with young boys who will "step" for him, but he was always around. He just wasn't no driller...

What’s the difference the nikka been in the street life man before the music.

There's a difference, Yella just explained the difference in the video. Cats got on with rap, got some money and influence and became known as "drillers"...

This is a backwards thing tho.

Durk was a bd well before rap. Was getting trouble, got sent to Michigan as an early teen for being in the streets and his family in Michigan sent him back for being in street stuff there.

His family said he influenced his older brother to get into the streets when he moved back also.

Just cause you ain’t king von don’t mean you just some lame also.

Most street dudes ain’t killers, but guys will kill you to survive if put in the situation.

King yella is not even from where they from. He’s from a whole different hood and started handing with duck after drill had blown up just looking to be around them.

Even still I don’t believe durk was ever the one actively looking to go on drills. Which is most guys. But that don’t mean they don’t do shyt in the heat of moment.

Reese also tells a story about losing in a dice game and he finding homies to go rob the dude he loss to afterwards and durk did it.

Look at my first reply above. That's basically the non-celeb version of the Durk archetype...

The fact that we both can acknowledge that most guys outside ain't killers, highlights the actions of how Durk moved as a celebrity...

The homeboy I mentioned above was in the hood and a gang member as a teenager. I don't know how many times he got his hands dirty but there are actual guys who were taking off on shyt, he wasn't one of em. But we knew him, he was around...

That's the Durk archetype. I think it's lame and telling of his mentality that a guy could be given what he's been given and choose to push like he was No Name BD from the trenches, but in and of itself I don't think Durk was a lame pre-celebrity. I just think it's pretty clear that he was an affiliated guy from the set, he was around and people knew him, but not for smacking shyt...

 

[murksiderock]

I mean....didn't OTF and all them literally spend a decade mocking yella's crew about dropping bodies


wasn't yella wishy washy talking about well....technichally I wasn't from that block etc etc when people were still outside...


I'm not a gang breh but like you from a rival set.....what u expect him 2 say


He always act like he the OG and durk and von some young brehs who was nobodies.


they(von n durk) had more musical success which is all I care about....but I mean.....Yella talked down about his own people when they were the ones feeling the pain in real time.


All those FBG guys had 2 deal with the consequences and got slumped etc......and then Yella would be like....well "technically we not from the same block" "They was just youngins" and shrug it off.


but than at the same time wants to claim them and attach them to any type of success and clout they had....despite literally being victims.

honestly he seems like a POS all around and stands on nothing.


only cares about himself.

I don't really know the history between Yella and Durk and they crews. I don't know a lot about Chicago shyt period, so I've never seen any other interviews he's said about Durk or Von. This shyt just popped in my algorithm and I watched it...

to me durk is no different than this guy, just more famous.

Man who returned to crime after $25M award sentenced to 9 years

A judge sentenced a Chicago man, who won a $25 million award in 2012 for a wrongful murder conviction only to spend it on rebuilding his Simon City Royals street gang, to nine years and two months in prison.

abc7chicago.com

as far as his street rep, yall gotta realize, dude been rapping since he was like 16, then got signed at like 18? But even then dudes still knew about him.

Did guys know who he was because he was active with it, or did they just know who he was because of who his dad is and he was a regular affiliate from the set?

It isn't a large ratio but there are guys who are really street active as kids...

And on top of that, durk was a trophy for his opps to kill and he still was living in chi, barely had money getting caught with guns on hood blocks. You never really even hear durk talking like he himself is this big tough guy either, but he was in a gang war and he stood on all ten toes for his dead guys when he coulda left when he had his.

Some will say that’s stupid for sure. But not of the shyt he was doing was out of greed or just trying to be a crime boss for his own reasons. It was to avenge dead members in a war that meant a lot of the guys who was in(in reality it didn’t mean nothing and nobody won)

I don't know what Durk has talked about in interviews, I've consumed more Lil Durk content in the past 10 days or so than I ever have ...

I knew he was an A-list rapper, and I do recall first hearing about him quite some time ago, so I know he's had a name in the industry for at least a decade. I know some of his bigger features but I'm not familiar with much of his work, and I don't think I ever watched a Durk interview until recently. I'm not up on them dudes like that...

But I did know it's been said for years that he funds and pushes violence since he's been a celebrity, and that there's songs that he talks about shyt that's going on in the present. That is talking like you're a tough guy and I'll disagree with you, it's completely borne of greed and ego in my opinion...

 

[maxamusa]

I don't really know the history between Yella and Durk and they crews. I don't know a lot about Chicago shyt period, so I've never seen any other interviews he's said about Durk or Von. This shyt just popped in my algorithm and I watched it...

Did guys know who he was because he was active with it, or did they just know who he was because of who his dad is and he was a regular affiliate from the set?

It isn't a large ratio but there are guys who are really street active as kids...

I don't know what Durk has talked about in interviews, I've consumed more Lil Durk content in the past 10 days or so than I ever have ...

I knew he was an A-list rapper, and I do recall first hearing about him quite some time ago, so I know he's had a name in the industry for at least a decade. I know some of his bigger features but I'm not familiar with much of his work, and I don't think I ever watched a Durk interview until recently. I'm not up on them dudes like that...

But I did know it's been said for years that he funds and pushes violence since he's been a celebrity, and that there's songs that he talks about shyt that's going on in the present. That is talking like you're a tough guy and I'll disagree with you, it's completely borne of greed and ego in my opinion...

there is a lot of history breh.....the MEME "we not from 63rd" that went viral directly involves yella....


his side got wooped something fierce.


He is like a bad war general that lead his soldiers to slaughter and while they were fighting was on an island sipping Pina colladas acting like there is no war going on.



and he's got years on everyone involved.


just nasty work all around.

 

[murksiderock]

Durk, Bibby, Hebro, all of them spit a lot of bars about there being no OGs around giving guidance and all that.


So its funny to hear someone like Yella pretend like he was that type of figure where literally only his youngings were the one who got knocked off and he could care less.


How u claim people then deny them at the same time


And that shyt was taunted forever.


Yella talk out both sides of his mouth all day.

Yella same age bracket as these guys. He 34, Durk 32, they grew up within a few miles of each other...

I think its probably true that Yella has been envious of Durk and his squad's success...

I don't think that negates him being able to answer a question truthfully, if someone like Cam in this interview, asks, "what was Durk's reputation before he became a rapper"...

The comment section on that video has a ton of people saying Yella is right, some guys of which say they from Chicago too and know this. I just think it's easy for guys to attribute "street activity" to any guy they like and blur the lines between what street dudes actually buy as g, and what isn't. Especially if someone else is more popular and renown...

This wasn't even a disrespectful interview or response from Yella, but a bunch of people responding to it as if him saying Durk wasn't that is some kinda disrespect ...

I think there's a clear contrast between how guys who live that way view shyt, and how guys who don't (or haven't) perceive things...

From my experience and it seems to remain true to this day.....these "oldschool" jail guys just cap all day. they really don't like that people younger then them came up and had more success. so all they can do is make up stories about how the generation after them that had way more success is not real.



Its gotta suck to be living in some shytty 2 bedroom apartment and seeing these younger brehs living well; but that doesn't authorize hate.


it really fukkes them up when they come home and want clout and nobody cares and they don't get an ounce of respect.

 

[Tony D'Amato]

If Durk gets out, this n1gga going into hiding

 

[How Sway?]

That story can't be real

He is the undisputed KING of the Crash outs. Smh

Dude was literally recruiting and paying guys on the west side to flip to his gang too

 

[TrifeGod]

It's funny how Yella was the first we seen on the internet to push the peace movement and they clapped that up

 

[How Sway?]

@murksiderock I doubt durk was walking around on some king von or Wayne Perry type ish, but I'd take what yella says with a grain of salt.

It's pretty obvious that he's been jealous of durk, and the attention that the BDs have gotten in the music industry, for well over a decade to the point of obsession.

But in same breath, I can't really blame yella for his animosity towards durk, considering how much dissing he does on tracks despite being a mainstream artist.

 

[god shamgod]

Black people glorify the dumbest shyt

Gangs,drug dealing,jail ,clothes, money,p*ssy ,cars,rep ,shoes,”street cred “

 

[Ineedmoney504]

I don't really know the history between Yella and Durk and they crews. I don't know a lot about Chicago shyt period, so I've never seen any other interviews he's said about Durk or Von. This shyt just popped in my algorithm and I watched it...

Did guys know who he was because he was active with it, or did they just know who he was because of who his dad is and he was a regular affiliate from the set?

It isn't a large ratio but there are guys who are really street active as kids...

I don't know what Durk has talked about in interviews, I've consumed more Lil Durk content in the past 10 days or so than I ever have ...

I knew he was an A-list rapper, and I do recall first hearing about him quite some time ago, so I know he's had a name in the industry for at least a decade. I know some of his bigger features but I'm not familiar with much of his work, and I don't think I ever watched a Durk interview until recently. I'm not up on them dudes like that...

But I did know it's been said for years that he funds and pushes violence since he's been a celebrity, and that there's songs that he talks about shyt that's going on in the present. That is talking like you're a tough guy and I'll disagree with you, it's completely borne of greed and ego in my opinion...

It’s a simple concept.

Yella not from 63rd. He got around duck by asking for a feature and just latched on to them. He’s done nothing to nobody from there, his own block say they have no issue with durk side at all.

Durk himself never had beef with 63rd and duck fr. Just blocks started clicking up and having beef off the strength, von from oblock and 600 guys had beef with 63rd guys. Durk block being clicked up is only beef.

Durk real beef was brick squad(lil jojo) and was like the first big drill death.

You didn’t really have durk dissing duck until Von signed cause they was dissing durk off that.

And I’ll put it like this as a break down for why durk was funding it

Keef blew up and put all these blocks in his music and had them poppin. Threw complications with his own hood(him being robbed), he left all them nikkaz. Reese had signed and fredo was with keef so durk was really the big name from they side still in the city. He didn’t have no money tho, just the fame. Took him like 10 years to finally get the money.

But being that he was the last one still around he became the trophy, so him and his people started being attacked and killed at a high rate. His cousin and manager bring two of the known ones.

So what you do when people killing your people? Get back, as he blew up and got more money all these blocks was relying on him, and that’s how he became the boss figure. He was paying bonds, funerals, providing money and guns for all these blocks.

And the shyt with was just that on a higher level, he had no beef with yb or Quando, shyt was all about get back.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

It's funny how Yella was the first we seen on the internet to push the peace movement and they clapped that up

He could never push peace for real, he’s didn’t have beef with any of the blocks or the guys who we know lol. Hes only around cause one day he got a feature with duck

 

[murksiderock]

@murksiderock I doubt durk was walking around on some king von or Wayne Perry type ish, but I'd take what yella says with a grain of salt.

It's pretty obvious that he's been jealous of durk, and the attention that the BDs have gotten in the music industry, for well over a decade to the point of obsession.

But in same breath, I can't really blame yella for his animosity towards durk, considering how much dissing he does on tracks despite being a mainstream artist.

I can agree with all this. And just to reiterate and be clear, I believe Durk was around and affiliated before he became a celebrity. I don't think this is some Lil Wayne shyt...

It’s a simple concept.

Yella not from 63rd. He got around duck by asking for a feature and just latched on to them. He’s done nothing to nobody from there, his own block say they have no issue with durk side at all.

Durk himself never had beef with 63rd and duck fr. Just blocks started clicking up and having beef off the strength, von from oblock and 600 guys had beef with 63rd guys. Durk block being clicked up is only beef.

Durk real beef was brick squad(lil jojo) and was like the first big drill death.

You didn’t really have durk dissing duck until Von signed cause they was dissing durk off that.

And I’ll put it like this as a break down for why durk was funding it

Keef blew up and put all these blocks in his music and had them poppin. Threw complications with his own hood(him being robbed), he left all them nikkaz. Reese had signed and fredo was with keef so durk was really the big name from they side still in the city. He didn’t have no money tho, just the fame. Took him like 10 years to finally get the money.

But being that he was the last one still around he became the trophy, so him and his people started being attacked and killed at a high rate. His cousin and manager bring two of the known ones.

So what you do when people killing your people? Get back, as he blew up and got more money all these blocks was relying on him, and that’s how he became the boss figure. He was paying bonds, funerals, providing money and guns for all these blocks.

And the shyt with was just that on a higher level, he had no beef with yb or Quando, shyt was all about get back.

A nikka with Durk resources should be smarter than Durk is. You can mitigate a lot of the extra shyt if he behaves differently throughout his rise...

A situation I'm closer to, I said in another thread that Durk's story seems to parallel Mozzy's. That's another rapper who there's been a lot of killing and violence since he blew up, and you could trace the justifications the same way...

I've been very vocal about Mozzy for years and Durk fits the shoe too, these nikkas egos fueled alot of this shyt. You don't even get to the point where people are attacking yours like that, if you not publicly pushing that energy...

 

[Reptile]

A lot of nikkas in here exposing themselves and not understanding the poitn being made here. Dark was doing the shyt he was rapping about, not rapping the shyt he was doing; he was moving backwards. Thats square shyt. Durk was clearly sheltered as a kid and for some reason had aspirations to be a street cat.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

I can agree with all this. And just to reiterate and be clear, I believe Durk was around and affiliated before he became a celebrity. I don't think this is some Lil Wayne shyt...

A nikka with Durk resources should be smarter than Durk is. You can mitigate a lot of the extra shyt if he behaves differently throughout his rise...

A situation I'm closer to, I said in another thread that Durk's story seems to parallel Mozzy's. That's another rapper who there's been a lot of killing and violence since he blew up, and you could trace the justifications the same way...

I've been very vocal about Mozzy for years and Durk fits the shoe too, these nikkas egos fueled alot of this shyt. You don't even get to the point where people are attacking yours like that, if you not publicly pushing that energy...

To be fair durk was one of the first to diss another hood on song.

But the killing came with the whole scene.

Keef was the biggest artist dissing the other side and saying he smoking they dead homies.

Durk and keef never been cool, but blocks being clicked up meant they was an extension of each other. They actually had beef.

If durk left them nikkaz on them blocks more of them woulda died.

 

[Ineedmoney504]

A lot of nikkas in here exposing themselves and not understanding the poitn being made here. Dark was doing the shyt he was rapping about, not rapping the shyt he was doing; he was moving backwards. Thats square shyt. Durk was clearly sheltered as a kid and for some reason had aspirations to be a street cat.

Furtherest thing from the truth. Durk daddy was a kingpin and direct report to Larry Hoover, he went to jail when durk was 7 months.

He was broke and had to live with his grams with like 10 other kids.

He was in trouble his entire youth. At 10 got sent to another state cause he kept getting in trouble and they sent him back cause he was in trouble out there.

nikka was deep in the streets