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Look at these Democrat clowns. All that Alex Wagner could do is s****** when West implored her to come to terms with the effect of neoliberalism on the poor and the effect of neoconservative foreign policy. Maher literally countered by saying "ok but let's look at Donald Trump's tweets :skip:". Incredible. They are so desperate to turn this election into a superficial referendum on Trump's personality. Humiliation of Trump is their only strategy. I wanted to slap the shyt out of Wagner when she said "They've golfed together but they haven't been golfing together :skip:".
Even Maher had the :dwillhuh: face when that corpulent b*stard Barney Frank admitted to taking Wall Street money :dead:. nikka...your name is on the fukking bill, chill with that shyt :russ:

I dunno. I kinda agree with him. Im not voting period, and I don't buy the liberal scare tactics about a trump presidency.

:ehh: not a bad guess, and I like the reference to Hillary's abominable record in Haiti, but
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Regardless, it's true that I'm not an American, so your shytty point still stands. I also like the jingoism and xenophobia with the "outsider" and "our politics" talk, as if American policy doesn't have material effects on countries all over the globe :mjlol:. You sure you're not a secret Trump supporter? :leostare:

Wouldn't say I'm a big fan of Elvis, but I like some of his songs. His like his campy ass movies too :pachaha:. I picked the name because I liked how it sounds. :manny:

I've seen that video linked before, but I never checked it out because I assumed it was some nutso infowars crap, but it's actually just a collection of primary source videos of Trump's positions over the years. :ehh:

The video validates what I've been saying about Trump playing some sort of long game or putting on an act. Many of the positions that I have said are the cornerstones of his campaign are featured in the slideshow of Trump over the years, he's been talking about them for decades. This "mexican rapist" and "build the wall!" rhetoric debuted when he started his campaign, which leads me to believe they were part of a calculated strategy to win the Republican primary instead of some organic, unmasked views Trump deeply held. But even then, many of those clips and speeches in videos could easily be slotted into a contemporary Trump speech, and they're not Republican orthodoxy.

I think it's too late for this video to get Trump elected because the tide has turned too far, but yeah, the person in that video could have won a general election against Hillary Clinton. Not because of any differences in the policies of the Trump in that video and the policies of Trump of this campaign, of which the most unvarnished have been toned down for the general election (Muslim ban turned to temporary geographic restriction, wages too high turned to minimum wage hike, climate change not real turned to voters should be able to ban fracking at local and state level, etc) but because of his temperament, which has been handled foolishly. The media has done a bang up job covering this election in a manner unsurpassed in superficiality. Trump is a Russian secret agent! Trump hates babies! Trump hates Gold Star parents! Trump hates women! Trump wants to nuke the world! But Trump is at fault for this too because for some reason he never fully reverted to the palatable presentation we've seen from him over the years in that video. There was a period where he scaled it back after he locked up the nomination, but that Khazr Khan (over)reaction was really the beginning of the end for Trump in my estimation. It was of course another media hit job for clicks and views, but the Trump campaign's response was so godawful. They let the story fester for days before trying to respond. It could have been so easily countered. It's possible by now that he doesn't actually want to be President. As of late, he's gotten incredibly sloppy and started to give the media a rope to hang him with (the 2nd Amendment comment). The campaign has made some truly baffling decisions, like continuing to face the press when his opponent went into hiding for an unprecedented amount of time, which was like Foreman tiring himself out while Ali rope-a-doped him.

Anyway, unfortunately the American body politic sustains itself on image, so they'll always favour presentation over policy. I, for one, welcome our new corporate, war hawk overlords :thumbsup:

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So where's the lie? :ld:

Show us where he's wrong. :sas1:
I will never apologize for hating the political establishment. That was my motivation for the posts I made in 2015. I made some spicy posts and got ahead of myself sometimes, but I was thinking long-term and I still think overall that this is the only timeline where the structural changes that need to be made can be enacted.

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I will never apologize for hating the political establishment. That was my motivation for the posts I made in 2015. I made some spicy posts and got ahead of myself sometimes, but I was thinking long-term and I still think overall that this is the only timeline where the structural changes that need to be made can be enacted.

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This does sound like you're pro-Trump though.

The media has done a bang up job covering this election in a manner unsurpassed in superficiality. Trump is a Russian secret agent! Trump hates babies! Trump hates Gold Star parents! Trump hates women! Trump wants to nuke the world! But Trump is at fault for this too because for some reason he never fully reverted to the palatable presentation we've seen from him over the years in that video. There was a period where he scaled it back after he locked up the nomination, but that Khazr Khan (over)reaction was really the beginning of the end for Trump in my estimation. It was of course another media hit job for clicks and views, but the Trump campaign's response was so godawful. They let the story fester for days before trying to respond. It could have been so easily countered. It's possible by now that he doesn't actually want to be President. As of late, he's gotten incredibly sloppy and started to give the media a rope to hang him with (the 2nd Amendment comment). The campaign has made some truly baffling decisions, like continuing to face the press when his opponent went into hiding for an unprecedented amount of time, which was like Foreman tiring himself out while Ali rope-a-doped him.

Anyway, unfortunately the American body politic sustains itself on image, so they'll always favour presentation over policy. I, for one, welcome our new corporate, war hawk overlords :thumbsup:
 

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So where's the lie? :ld:

Show us where he's wrong. :sas1:.

Out of moral conviction I generally support the candidate least likely to continue America's neo-imperialistic foreign policy, and that is Trump in this election. I also believe Trump's domestic politics will at least attempt to halt the neoliberal evacuation of wealth from the underclass, which is disproportionately made up of black people. I believe Trump is the candidate who will most likely lead to domestic and foreign emancipation of black people.

I could stop here. :sas1:
damn nikka I got work tomorrow, let's wrap it up :pachaha:
Or I could ask why a Slovenian likes to use the n word. :mjpls:
You don't know that. You're assuming it because it doesn't fit your narrative of Donald Trump as Hitler. You're more willing to accept that Hillary Clinton, who has actually proven to be an establishment lackey for over 25 years, is more anti-establishment than first time politician Donald Trump. You're more willing to accept that Hillary Clinton, who has actually supported these free trade deals like NAFTA and TPP, is more anti-free trade than Donald Trump, who has been railing against NAFTA for 20 years and has never supported TPP.

":jbhmm:Trump surely couldn't mean any of those things, because I like those things and I don't like Trump."

And even if it was lip service, it dramatically shifted the realm of what is acceptable in American political discourse, which has huge effects on the policies that are seen as viable.

He's right, Trump has shifted the realm of political discourse, but not in anyway he thought. :mjpls:
 

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Trump vows ‘insurance for everybody’ in Obamacare replacement plan

You can click the link and check his emoji placement.

Or the point where he may be the most wrong ever. He said that because Donald Trump supports universal healthcare the democratic party will make a heal turn on it. In particular because it would help the poor and blacks.

But you don't have to take my word for it.
I'm not even saying Trump's proposal will pass, I'm just acknowledging the schism between Trump and congressional establishment Republicans on this issue. Trump and Paul Ryan are coming from two different ideological foundations. Universal makes quite a lot of sense for the political movement he's trying to build. I've been saying that for almost a year now, and have the negs to prove it :heh:. I fully expect milquetoast libs to adopt a reactionary anti-Universal position now that Trump is pushing for it though.
 

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This does sound like you're pro-Trump though.
One of the regrets I have from that posting period was being too forgiving about Candidate Trump's worst inclinations because he represented perhaps the last chance to break the political status quo and broaden the realm of what is considered politically possible, thereby opening up the lane for progressive/outsider politics. While his administration has been more vile than I foresaw, I think long-term, my overall take is still correct. I see Trump's election as chemotherapy. The groundswell of progressive politics that have risen in the wake of his election are the antibodies.
 
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