Killa Cam & Murda Ma$e..."It Is What It Is" Debate Show Thread

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I think that their set is in Miami, not upstate NY. SAS did their episode when he was in town covering the NBA finals. Also, we don't know what Cam overhead is for the entire show. He has a group that helps but you know that he probably have to pay them along with Mase and Stat Baby. They probably not doing that sh*t for free especially Mase since he has to fly in from San Diego to shoot.
Yea, while I agree with @Michael's Black Son critiques, hopefully with time and the right investment they can get the right designers and producers to hook it up nicely all the way around from the set to editing to music, etc.

Let’s see where the show is by next spring when the NBA is in full swing again. Hope the consistency remains.

Be careful with dudes like Brandon Marshall though. :ufdup:
 

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I think that their set is in Miami, not upstate NY. SAS did their episode when he was in town covering the NBA finals. Also, we don't know what Cam overhead is for the entire show. He has a group that helps but you know that he probably have to pay them along with Mase and Stat Baby. They probably not doing that sh*t for free especially Mase since he has to fly in from San Diego to shoot.

Mase payday should happen when they inevitably sign with Revolt (or whichever platform)

At the pace they are growing, they might not even need revolt :patrice: . They can post the video on YouTube and maybe do a Spotify deal where they upload their audio there...Im just brainstorming, but Cam is in a very good position. The show is doing Major numbers while still being independently produced.

I don't get it. Can you explain it for me?

@Matt504 been calling rap culture poison for years...I'm just @'in him to instigate some shyt :mjgrin:
 

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Mase payday should happen when they inevitably sign with Revolt (or whichever platform)

At the pace they are growing, they might not even need revolt :patrice: . They can post the video on YouTube and maybe do a Spotify deal where they upload their audio there...Im just brainstorming, but Cam is in a very good position. The show is doing Major numbers while still being independently produced.
If Pat can get the bag from Fanduel & ESPN, then I don't see why Cam can't get one over time since the numbers prove that there is an audience for it. Plus a lot of these media pundits and athletes know Cam as a former artist first so they have more respect for him and would be more willing to help out/come on to the show to show luv.

@Matt504 been calling rap culture poison for years...I'm just @'in him to instigate some shyt :mjgrin:
These labels know that a lot of these up and coming artists are poor so they give them the bag and tell them to spit some more negative sh*t and the artist will do it because they are not trying to go back being broke in the hood. It just a sad never ending cycle :to: .
 

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If Pat can get the bag from Fanduel & ESPN, then I don't see why Cam can't get one over time since the numbers prove that there is an audience for it. Plus a lot of these media pundits and athletes know Cam as a former artist first so they have more respect for him and would be more willing to help out/come on to the show to show luv.


These labels know that a lot of these up and coming artists are poor so they give them the bag and tell them to spit some more negative sh*t and the artist will do it because they are not trying to go back being broke in the hood. It just a sad never ending cycle :to: .

good points...this is why I'm excited to see what Shannon does with his "Club Shay Shay' brand bc he's growing fast too. He kept his face on TV long enough while building his own shyt in the background.

Cam gotta either stay indie or partner with a Revolt to keep his creative freedom. ESPN is owned by Disney, they not rocking with all the "pause" & "no homo" shyt...and I dont want cam to water down the brand for sponsorship.

I almost want this to stay indie tbh...
 

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good points...this is why I'm excited to see what Shannon does with his "Club Shay Shay' brand bc he's growing fast too. He kept his face on TV long enough while building his own shyt in the background.

Cam gotta either stay indie or partner with a Revolt to keep his creative freedom. ESPN is owned by Disney, they not rocking with all the "pause" & "no homo" shyt...and I dont want cam to water down the brand for sponsorship.

I almost want this to stay indie tbh...
I'm surprised that Fox didn't try to keep Club Shay Shay and have him do that separately from whatever else he trying to do. Shannon found another lane with doing in person interviews and making the guests feel comfortable with opening up. Not everyone can do that in the media space.

As for Cam, I hope that he gets the bag from either one of these gambling sites or a drinking company. IDK about Revolt because I think that Mase and Puffy are still beefing about cash but maybe they can come to an agreement and move on. Cam & Mase are too unfiltered for FS1 and ESPN but if they keeps getting better maybe they can start getting special guest spots on some shows and other podcasts so that they can get more money.
 

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I'm surprised that Fox didn't try to keep Club Shay Shay and have him do that separately from whatever else he trying to do. Shannon found another lane with doing in person interviews and making the guests feel comfortable with opening up. Not everyone can do that in the media space.

As for Cam, I hope that he gets the bag from either one of these gambling sites or a drinking company. IDK about Revolt because I think that Mase and Puffy are still beefing about cash but maybe they can come to an agreement and move on. Cam & Mase are too unfiltered for FS1 and ESPN but if they keeps getting better maybe they can start getting special guest spots on some shows and other podcasts so that they can get more money.

You never know, they might've presented an offer he said :whoa:

Joe Budden kept turning down deals for his podcast. I dont know if that was the right decision, but he's sitting at 1.2 million subscribers on YouTube independently.

Cam and Shannon could realistically sit tight and continue to grow this organically. Bring on exclusive advertisers (Fanduel), sell merch, but keep 100% creative control...
 

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Breh it looks cheap.

You know SAS noticed it when he was there because he’s on sets with robotic cameras.

They could EASILY hit up MKBHD and use his studio because he’s in the tri-state area, has tons of equipment and separate voiceover booth. But if MKBHD is even fukkin with brehs like that is another story because you already know Mase/Cam are alot to deal with and would be clowing everyone at that studio

THEYRE IN MIAMI

THE PRODUCTION
WILL CONTINUE TO GET BETTER
:devil:
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Breh it looks cheap.

You know SAS noticed it when he was there because he’s on sets with robotic cameras.

They could EASILY hit up MKBHD and use his studio because he’s in the tri-state area, has tons of equipment and separate voiceover booth. But if MKBHD is even fukkin with brehs like that is another story because you already know Mase/Cam are alot to deal with and would be clowing everyone at that studio
My nikka said MKBHD :mjlol: My nikka what?? He’s on whole nother lane/level. He probably done even know who Cam and Mase are, probably dont even listen to rap. Man’s played professional frisbee in his spare time lol
 

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Breh it looks cheap.

You know SAS noticed it when he was there because he’s on sets with robotic cameras.

They could EASILY hit up MKBHD and use his studio because he’s in the tri-state area, has tons of equipment and separate voiceover booth. But if MKBHD is even fukkin with brehs like that is another story because you already know Mase/Cam are alot to deal with and would be clowing everyone at that studio

They're in Miami breh.

Ppl aren't trippin off the set as long as the content is there. They got 4k cameras, good sound.
 

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I think cam is going to cut Mase in the future and get a better co host to really take this to the next level. Mase isn’t really that articulate seems like he just giggles and says pause for most the show. His take’s aren’t good either.
 

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I think cam is going to cut Mase in the future and get a better co host to really take this to the next level. Mase isn’t really that articulate seems like he just giggles and says pause for most the show. His take’s aren’t good either.

Lol and that’s when a lot of us will stop watching. Ain’t nobody tryna hear no sound takes or knowledgeable remarks. I’m tryna laugh :russ:

Besides, it takes time to get good at shyt like this. Shaq was trash when he started and a lot of people wanted him gone and now no one says a thing. To me, it should stay as it is aside from gradual avid upgrades. They might need to keep an eye out for a host cuz I could see Stat Baby getting a big offer. SAS prolly plotting as we speak.
 
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