KG: “It’s DISRESPECTFUL to put Jordan over Lebron”

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This is a silly argument considering that Lebrons teams weren't better than their competition.. I know nikkas have a hard time understanding this, but basketball is a TEAM SPORT.

His team was an underdog in 07, 12, 14, 16, 17, and 18 if I'm not mistaken

LeBron was the dynasty.. for an entire decade the answer to "who is playing the Finals?" was LeBron.

Jordans team was the clear cut favorite because of roster construction and simply because the era was the expansion and the talent was spread out to an additional 8 teams over the course of his prime

Which team was the best Finals team Jordan faced? Serious question, where do you rank them over Lebrons finals opponents
MJ did what he did in his era and Lebron did what he did in his era, I’m not playing this fantasy time machine shyt that you Bron stans do when y’all can’t make a credible basketball goat case.

Lebron is the dynasty and in the finals is 1-3 vs Steph, 1-2 vs KD, 1-2 vs Duncan, 1-0 in bubble chips. So we are supposed to reward losing now?

Seems that a lot of explaining away failures have to go into making the case for Lebron as goat over MJ.
 

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MJ did what he did in his era and Lebron did what he did in his era, I’m not playing this fantasy time machine shyt that you Bron stans do when y’all can’t make a credible basketball goat case.

Lebron is the dynasty and in the finals is 1-3 vs Steph, 1-2 vs KD, 1-2 vs Duncan, 1-0 in bubble chips. So we are supposed to reward losing now?

Seems that a lot of explaining away failures have to go into making the case for Lebron as goat over MJ.
Steph has 3-4 HOFers in their prime when facing Lebrons team

KD had 3-4 HOFers in their prime when facing Lebrons team

Duncan had 3-4 HOFers in their prime when facing Lebrons team

I know you just glossing over this, and I get the reason why and it's agenda driven. People like yourself will always not include context and simply pretend this game is an individual 1v1 sport to fit your narrative

It's makes you a casual and speaks to your lack of intelligence on the subject
 
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MJ did what he did in his era and Lebron did what he did in his era, I’m not playing this fantasy time machine shyt that you Bron stans do when y’all can’t make a credible basketball goat case.

Lebron is the dynasty and in the finals is 1-3 vs Steph, 1-2 vs KD, 1-2 vs Duncan, 1-0 in bubble chips. So we are supposed to reward losing now?

Seems that a lot of explaining away failures have to go into making the case for Lebron as goat over MJ.
Just fantasy scenarios and what ifs. This dumbass really tried to make an argument that Lebron is a better scorer than a 10 time scoring champion. :dead: Acting like Lebron could do it if he wanted to lol
 

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I’ve done already proved you wrong buddy. You claim that Lebron scored more points than Jordan on less shots.

You leave out important context tho, like Lebron needing almost 200 more games and 1200 more threes to do so.

as I said PPG is the only indicator for who was a better scorer, not to mention the 10 scoring titles, highest ppg in the playoffs and finals etc

:umad: I’m done embarrassing you for today so you’ll get not a word from me. You should feel lucky you’ve even engaged with the god.
How is taking more 3's a negative lmfao.. the 3 pt shot was around during Jordans time dummy. It still counted as 3 points, the numbers were there, opportunity was there. He just simply isn't and never was a better 3 pt shooter than LeBron

Efficiency matters and LeBron was more efficient to the point he took 1300+ less shots than Jordan when he passed him. That's a fact.

Scoring isn't even Lebrons best attribute and he has more points and did it more efficiently than Jordan.. that's a fact
 

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I mean the 3pt shot has always been 3 points.. they even made it easier for Jordan and his era for a few years. The shots were there, the opportunity and numbers were there for Jordan and his contemporaries to hit them.

LeBron is simply a better 3pt shooter than he is.

I know you're not doing this, but it's silly to mention this yet fail to mention that LeBron would be even more unstoppable during Jordans era simply because he'd be bigger and faster than practically everyone. Not to mention the defense in the 00's made it tougher, and was even acknowledged by Jordan due to rule changes
So you just gonna teleport this eras Lebron into the past with all of the advantages of playing in today’s style. I can’t take Bron stans serious
 

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How is taking more 3's a negative lmfao.. the 3 pt shot was around during Jordans time dummy. It still counted as 3 points, the numbers were there, opportunity was there. He just simply isn't and never was a better 3 pt shooter than LeBron

Efficiency matters and LeBron was more efficient to the point he took 1300+ less shots than Jordan when he passed him. That's a fact.
Steph Curry revolutionized the 3 in this era, Lebron wasn’t taking 3s like that before Curry gave him a style to copy.

If all that your saying is true about Lebron then why hasn’t he dominated his era better? He’s faster than Usain Bolt, can jump higher than a Leopard and is as strong as an elephant but still can’t win more than 4 chips in 21 years? Something ain’t adding up, bullshyt catching up
 
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How is taking more 3's a negative lmfao.. the 3 pt shot was around during Jordans time dummy. It still counted as 3 points, the numbers were there, opportunity was there. He just simply isn't and never was a better 3 pt shooter than LeBron

Efficiency matters and LeBron was more efficient to the point he took 1300+ less shots than Jordan when he passed him. That's a fact.
Y’all love leaving context out. nikkas wasn’t jacking up threes in the 90s, it is what it is. You’re looking for a reason to put Lebron on equal footing. He played in more games and attempted more 3s, like 4k more three point attempts than MJ when he passed him in scoring.

If MJ attempted than many 3s then you’d have an argument. But you don’t.

If Lebron passed Jordan in the same number of games then You’d have an argument, but you don’t.

Jordan has never been the all time leader in scoring, that’s never been an argument for him, this man retired twice in his prime cause he was bored, and missed the majority of his sophomore year. Just use context bro lol you don’t gotta make up scenarios to win an argument. Hate when y’all nikkas do this.
 

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Steph Curry revolutionized the 3 in this era, Lebron wasn’t taking 3s like that before Curry gave him a style to copy.

If all that your saying is true about Lebron then why hasn’t he dominated his era better? He’s faster than Usain Bolt, can jump higher than a Leopard and is as strong as an elephant but still can’t win more than 4 chips in 21 years? Something ain’t adding up, bullshyt catching up
What are you talking about... Lebron has dominated his era to the same level Jordan/Russell has, except for longer.

Once again you continue to not understand that chips are a team accomplishment. Idk if English isn't your first language or you just skip over those parts of the conversation, but once again those are team accomplishments.
 

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What are you talking about... Lebron has dominated his era to the same level Jordan/Russell has, except for longer.

Once again you continue to not understand that chips are a team accomplishment. Idk if English isn't your first language or you just skip over those parts of the conversation, but once again those are team accomplishments.
Both Lebron and MJ play on teams that they lead. If you are responsible for your teams success then that accomplishment goes under your name but you already knew that.

The point of being a great player is to win championships. Ask your idol Lebron why he keeps playing and he will tell you.
 

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Jordan didn't go 6 for 6.. because he didn't solely play 6 seasons.

I think you can make an argument for either when it comes peak for peak Game 7.. honestly LeBron is the greatest Game 7/elimination player in NBA history and it isn't particularly close (numbers/eye test/stats all back this up) and it really depends on who you have around you

LeBron doesn't need much because he can be your PG, SG, backup rim protecter, another big for rebounder, wing defender, post defender, etc etc.

Jordan is much more limited
I swear these Jordan stans are borderline dumb. You can make a strong argument that Jordan is the goat. But these fools constantly go with Skip's talking points. 6 for 6 etc. It's crazy. Number 1 championships are a team accomplishments. 2. Last time I checked MJ played 15 years in the NBA. He sure as hell wasn't on 15 championship teams.
 

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Lebron left when he lost faith in an incompetent GM.

That’s what people do

I dont think so. Spurs and Warriors are much better than any team he faced. I dont think he would’ve carried the 07’ Cavs to the ship either.
I still believe what Bron has done in his 30s is just superior to Jordan in his 30s.
Does that make him the GOAT? To me yea, but I understand why he's not for the majority.

Jordan had a level of invincibility that lingers from his 20s to early 30s. There was a path for LeBron to have something similar but between the Cavs dysfunction and his own doubt (that 1st Miami year) it just didnt materialize.

You could argue Jordan never doubts himself and thats fair.
 
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