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Even science shows that men have the X (feminine) chromosome within us.. So every man, according to science, have a "bytch" in them.. Men just hold over a woman's head that he possess a Y chromosome, the masculinity part, of humanity..

Men take for granted that we slid from between the legs of a woman.

Makes me wonder about a rib being pulled from a man theology.. Looks like that could be used to set a precedent to some fckery..
Lmao! I think sometime in the distant past, women ruled shyt to a much greater extent than they did in the history that followed those civilizations. And fukked it up according to their egos.:mjlol: We shifted to HOH in response to that but now men fukked it up for the last 4000 years to the point that we facing dinosaur status just like women did.:mjlol: I had a weird dream like this before. Which is strange because I rarely have dreams, and when I do they are all purple giraffes playing UNO or stuff like that. But this dream was so linear and vivid. Women fukked it up and resulted in the flood. Men fukking it up and it’s resulting in fire.

Until we learn to work together we are going to repeat this cycle.
 

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You’re really spitting facts in here, what else is new.

The allure of Kevin for these dudes is simple: he’s in the ministry of humbling women, particularly black women and THAT is incredibly satisfying for the low performing black male. That is it and that is all. They can beat around the bush and pretend like they listen to him for “family values” or any other reason but no, the reason is clear.

Low achieving black men are no different from low achieving white men (the stereotypical “incels”) in that they resent and/or hate women that desire partners OTHER than them. These women want better, more attractive, more successful men than said incels can live up to—and this is upsetting for them. Rejection hurts after all. So what Kevin does by “humbling” women (which these dudes label as “truth telling”) is hitting them with the reality that they are not in fact deserving of high quality men and should settle down with their equal: a low value man.

Of course you can see how this would be satisfying for low value men. Kevin is increasing their dating pool after all! Lol.

I don’t understand the infatuation with what he’s saying seeing how nothing he says is revolutionary or even applicable on a large scale. Let’s be real, black men as a whole, statistically speaking, have dropped the ball in terms of education, earning potential, incarceration rates, credit scores....etc, yet black women are the most race loyal women on earth. Doesn’t matter what viral tweets we see from shea butter twitter every now and then, black women largely love and adore black men, have their children, stay with them, “hold them down”, take care of them, march for them, and coddle them DESPITE the fact that a significant percentage of them are walking red flags. The “choose better” brigade was born from BW consistently laying up with bummy men. But now that some are seeking better, that’s a problem for them too? Lol.

So why do these dudes act like generally speaking, average black women are out here expecting the moon and stars from a man? Like their expectations are through the roof and unrealistic? There is no abundance of black women walking around here expecting the average black man to be Morris Chestnut clearing $100k a year. And if that was the case, absolutely none of these dudes would be getting p*ssy. None. 0%.

Like you’ve said and alluded to numerous times, they are willing to walk back any stance so long as the message involves humbling (black) women. Can’t go a single day without the “gay agenda” spiel but now all of a sudden “who cares what he does behind closed doors, he’s right! I’m glad he’s getting popular.” It’s hilarious.

Lmao! No my argument is that it’s hilarious for the same group who screamed to the rooftop about the Gay agenda, hitting that heel turn and being A-okay with gays as long as they shyttin on black women.:stopitslime:

It’s the same deal with some black dudes and multiple groups. White women. bytch about feminism but cool with white women if they fukkin them and shytting on blk women by comparing to submissive white women.
Racist conservatives. bytch about systematic racism but cling to conservative politics as long as they shyt on blk women or liberal strategies that might benefit them like social welfare programs.
Same with gays. bytch about the gay agenda and blk women supporting gays and Tyler Perry tropes. But then turn around and choose to follow one as long as said gay man is shytting on black women.

There’s one key pattern here: as long as you try and humble a black chick, you are in the good graces of some lost black men.

Conservatives, trump supporters, incels, some hip hop artists, gays, non-Blk women, pick-mes, racists, hoteps, you name it.
As long as we can beat those evil, nasty, hair-hat, fat, feminist, attitudinal black women back into mule status with humiliation ritual porn, we good.:mjlol:Crazy part is, it never works. He saying the same shyt that’s been on the incel manosphere since the early 2000s when Sergeant Willie Pete and his ilk were insulting blk women online. Dudes that listened to him are still lonely, bitter, angry.

Why? Because telling women they ain’t shyt and failing to address the real issues some men have with normal positive interactions with the opposite sex won’t make shyt better.

You know what Heaven Scamuels is doing? He’s giving man-hating chicks evidence and putting a battery in their backs. In today’s society, many women already grew up without fathers. So they already see men as accessory at best and as risks at worst because the only men they did see growing up were fukking over them or their mothers or not there. Seeing more of this type of energy in a gay man isn’t going to make women think “Oh! I don’t look good so I might as well get with somebody else who doesn’t look good too!”
They already got low self-esteem, and what’s more is that they now live in the age of female empowerment where they ain’t gotta choose up on anybody they don’t want. So ya’ll are gonna make women so done that they gon refuse to deal with you point blank and they don’t have to.

Men are becoming so insufferable that dying alone or marrying a dog is a better option for these chicks than dealing with a group of men that openly tells the world that they don’t think women are equally as valuable as them, can’t even be friends with them or respect their humanity, is willing to hop into bed with anybody to humble them, is broke, has a nasty arrogant attitude and thinks they are the prize that should be submitted to, allowed to get side p*ssy while bringing nothing to the table that women can’t now get for themselves.
:laff::laff::laff:
Anybody who can’t see this shyt is slow as hell.

Please don’t get mad at me watching this shyt unfold and laughing on the sidelines.
:russ:
Mark my words. In the next ten years we are going to look like Brazil and Japan in America. Swirling or worshipping non-blacks while still lonely as fukk. These scammers just profiting off the trauma.:yeshrug:
 

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books - :ahh:" i believe in one god that created heaven, earth, and the universe. his son jesus died for our sins & will come back to save us all"

old bizzle - :ehh: "oh ok you're a christian"

books - :whoa: " no i'm not. you guys on the coli keep trying to box me in with labels. i'm prefer to be called a pragmatist"

old bizzle - :unimpressed:
You: Are you a feminist?
Me: Not quite. I agree with some parts and disagree with others. In fact, here are some sources that inform my disposition.

You:....(bulldozes right over resources)

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FEMINIST!!!!!

Me::snoop::rolleyes::snooze:

Regardless, it’s always good chatting with you.

Here’s some more fascinating studies you might be interested in.

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf...ghksdRx6keTybHsbZ_vs_mrcug0Ctk4CjVyGdsI2AKrzA
A lot of this actually has very little to do with feminism and more to do with economics but I don’t even feel like getting into that because that’s an entire lecture in itself. But this article is a great primer.

Have a good one!
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The fact that some black men have an issue with having a mentor, tutoring and guidance shows how broken the black community is. This lone wolf, struggle on my own bullshyt really has to stop.
Having mentors in real life is great.

Idolizing a man-child on Youtube is kind of sad.

Parasocial relationships are unhealthy. :mjlol:
 

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I will say I've found the shows I've listened to entertaining. Which I think is the goal for content creators.

All this talk of "father figure" shyt is some other shyt. Intentional inflation. Same thing goes with Tariq and whoever else.

They're all entertainment. You know the same way we watch movies and listen to music...entertainment?

Entertainment is typically left at entertainment.

Infatuation comes into play when grown ass men get on the internet defending another mans honor cuz someone made jokes about his looks. Some of you look up to him and admire him like a father and it shows.

If a slight on his appearance offends you (not you in particular, i’m speaking generally), chances are you are emotionally invested. You feel physically tied to his ideologies and representation. You love him like a dad, it’s okay to admit.
 

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You’re really spitting facts in here, what else is new.

The allure of Kevin for these dudes is simple: he’s in the ministry of humbling women, particularly black women and THAT is incredibly satisfying for the low performing black male. That is it and that is all. They can beat around the bush and pretend like they listen to him for “family values” or any other reason but no, the reason is clear.

Low achieving black men are no different from low achieving white men (the stereotypical “incels”) in that they resent and/or hate women that desire partners OTHER than them. These women want better, more attractive, more successful men than said incels can live up to—and this is upsetting for them. Rejection hurts after all. So what Kevin does by “humbling” women (which these dudes label as “truth telling”) is hitting them with the reality that they are not in fact deserving of high quality men and should settle down with their equal: a low value man.

Of course you can see how this would be satisfying for low value men. Kevin is increasing their dating pool after all! Lol.

I don’t understand the infatuation with what he’s saying seeing how nothing he says is revolutionary or even applicable on a large scale. Let’s be real, black men as a whole, statistically speaking, have dropped the ball in terms of education, earning potential, incarceration rates, credit scores....etc, yet black women are the most race loyal women on earth. Doesn’t matter what viral tweets we see from shea butter twitter every now and then, black women largely love and adore black men, have their children, stay with them, “hold them down”, take care of them, march for them, and coddle them DESPITE the fact that a significant percentage of them are walking red flags. The “choose better” brigade was born from BW consistently laying up with bummy men. But now that some are seeking better, that’s a problem for them too? Lol.

So why do these dudes act like generally speaking, average black women are out here expecting the moon and stars from a man? Like their expectations are through the roof and unrealistic? There is no abundance of black women walking around here expecting the average black man to be Morris Chestnut clearing $100k a year. And if that was the case, absolutely none of these dudes would be getting p*ssy. None. 0%.

Like you’ve said and alluded to numerous times, they are willing to walk back any stance so long as the message involves humbling (black) women. Can’t go a single day without the “gay agenda” spiel but now all of a sudden “who cares what he does behind closed doors, he’s right! I’m glad he’s getting popular.” It’s hilarious.
Yeah a lot of his message is feel good humiliation porn for incels and blk female emo masochists.

It seems like it’s harder for people to mutually respect each other, cherish one another, stop trying to rule over each other. Instead it’s constant psycho warfare.
Common sense says that the golden rule can save us all. But people too arrogant to be okay with that. If you more concerned with humbling somebody instead of working on you, that’s a problem.
I personally don’t judge black men for their struggles because I know black women got just as many.

But I also don’t covet opportunities to see them publically humiliated either. Because it doesn’t help in the grand scheme of things and I don’t harbor resentment towards them for struggling in the same fukked up system as me.

I won’t let them screw me over just cuz I love em, :rudy:so when they on that bullshyt it’s
:camby:But I don’t want to see any of my people humbled. Life does enough of that to us already.:yeshrug:
 

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Have you ever listened to a woman who's being abused childhood story? That shyt is so :mjcry:.. Its their fault if they allow it to continue, but their parents sent them on that path of destruction in a lot of cases.. And thats whats sad the most..
Yeah it is. That’s another thing. So many people dealing with real life abuse victims playing out cycles of dysfunction...which is why a lot of this guys supporters are women. Some interpret disrespect as love that’s all many know. :yeshrug:
 

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The fact that some black men have an issue with having a mentor, tutoring and guidance shows how broken the black community is. This lone wolf, struggle on my own bullshyt really has to stop.

Try going outside and actually authentically getting to know a mentor on your own instead of relying on a one sided internet relationship.

If you are looking for mentors from podcasts and youtube lives then you have way more pressing issues to tackle before arguing over what Kevin Samuels has to say. The start of being a high value man and coming up from the basement.
 

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You’re really spitting facts in here, what else is new.

The allure of Kevin for these dudes is simple: he’s in the ministry of humbling women, particularly black women and THAT is incredibly satisfying for the low performing black male. That is it and that is all. They can beat around the bush and pretend like they listen to him for “family values” or any other reason but no, the reason is clear.

Low achieving black men are no different from low achieving white men (the stereotypical “incels”) in that they resent and/or hate women that desire partners OTHER than them. These women want better, more attractive, more successful men than said incels can live up to—and this is upsetting for them. Rejection hurts after all. So what Kevin does by “humbling” women (which these dudes label as “truth telling”) is hitting them with the reality that they are not in fact deserving of high quality men and should settle down with their equal: a low value man.

Of course you can see how this would be satisfying for low value men. Kevin is increasing their dating pool after all! Lol.

I don’t understand the infatuation with what he’s saying seeing how nothing he says is revolutionary or even applicable on a large scale. Let’s be real, black men as a whole, statistically speaking, have dropped the ball in terms of education, earning potential, incarceration rates, credit scores....etc, yet black women are the most race loyal women on earth. Doesn’t matter what viral tweets we see from shea butter twitter every now and then, black women largely love and adore black men, have their children, stay with them, “hold them down”, take care of them, march for them, and coddle them DESPITE the fact that a significant percentage of them are walking red flags. The “choose better” brigade was born from BW consistently laying up with bummy men. But now that some are seeking better, that’s a problem for them too? Lol.

So why do these dudes act like generally speaking, average black women are out here expecting the moon and stars from a man? Like their expectations are through the roof and unrealistic? There is no abundance of black women walking around here expecting the average black man to be Morris Chestnut clearing $100k a year. And if that was the case, absolutely none of these dudes would be getting p*ssy. None. 0%.

Like you’ve said and alluded to numerous times, they are willing to walk back any stance so long as the message involves humbling (black) women. Can’t go a single day without the “gay agenda” spiel but now all of a sudden “who cares what he does behind closed doors, he’s right! I’m glad he’s getting popular.” It’s hilarious.

You telling me that fukking tuba sound clip ain’t hilarious when someone says their 5’6 size 16 and 215 lbs :russ: ?

How is it humbling to tell a 200lb, 35year old that a Cardiologist is going to chose the 25 year old with less baggage over them? Y’all really need this sassy ass nikka to tell y’all that :dwillhuh:

This nikka wasn’t even poppin when he was talking to men.
 
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I think all men in all cultures have struggled with thinking women are inferior, useless or beneath them. Traditionally, African cultures have had healthier understandings of gender roles in spite of a few . Many of our historical cultures had matriarchies and entire lineages of queens. Birth control actually originated in ancient Egypt and they were one of the most progressive societies in the ancient world. Many ancient West African kingdoms had entire female business guilds and I won’t even get into the Kandakes in East African kingdom of Kush.
Actually, a similar pattern can even be seen in ancient middle Eastern culture prior to Judeo-Christian and Islamic influence. Same can be seen in ancient Asian cultures, and Indigenous cultures as well. Contrary to popular belief, the earliest ancient societies were highly respectful of women and egalitarian. We came to this “get back in the kitchen, bytches is useless shyt” relatively late in the history of humanity. Why? Bc the might is right paradigm isn’t sustainable. I dunno why we too stubborn or stupid to see that.:mjlol:

Europeans were primarily the ones who struggled with gender issues because they had strong gay cultures in Ancient Greece and Rome and in nomadic cultures. A little of that trickled into Christianity with the elimination of the feminine divine and emphasis on father/son/holy spirit. Once these religions spread, the cultures they influenced became increasingly unhealthy in their gender relations.

The extent to which we as a people have been forcefully inducted into white people’s flawed latent homosexual “Iz da man, I’m better” gender relationships means that black men and blank women picked up many of those unhealthy ideas. Black males are the most progressive of all races imo but still struggle in some areas and several decades of misogyny in hip hop, glorification of pimp culture, fukk deez bytches culture hasn’t helped.

As for the last statement about creating laws, you don’t have to be a ruler or have absolute power to exert control over others, oppress them, attack them, mistreat them, hold toxic ideas about them which negatively influence your relationship with them. Anybody can bully so the idea that black men need the same level of power that white men have before they can be held accountable for some of the harmful attitudes they have towards their own women is ridiculous. Power is relative. I’m not the president of the U.S. I have virtually no power, but if I have children, does that preclude me from having the ability to abuse them?
Similarly, blk women are one of the most powerless groups in America but some of their behaviors contribute to the oppression of themselves and blk men.
So I never understood that line of reasoning. In fact in some cases, lack of access to power creates the need in some to abuse others. :francis:So yeah. There are some Blk men who absolutely have bought into harmful ideas about their own women and adopted white people’s issues and some have viewed abuse of their own women as a stepping stone to success in a white world. Kinda like Heaven Scamuels. Nothing is more popular than making a blk chick cry. It’s like a right of passage for fame in Hollywood.:mjlol:
No dark butts! Amirite:facepalm:


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You telling me that fukking tuba sound clip ain’t hilarious when someone says their 5’6 size 16 and 215 lbs :russ: ?

How is it humbling to tell a 200lb, 35year old that a Cardiologist is going to chose the 25 year old with less baggage over them? Y’all really need this sassy ass nikka to tell y’all that :dwillhuh:

This nikka wasn’t even poppin when he was talking to men. No one listens to this fruit cup for male advice or family values you goofball. Y’all are responsible for his popularity
:comeon:

Thank you for proving my point. He gained an audience of MEN when he started critiquing WOMEN. That is the draw; humbling women. Putting them in their “place”. Letting them know that they are overestimating their desirability. Rating random women 1-10.

Men enjoy that content.

When he was giving men advice, no one cared. That’s why I said that the dudes in here pretending like they listen to him for any other reason but his women-put-downs is lying. Y’all enjoy seeing women being told they are delusional, fat, old, broke, and undesirable. Y’all enjoy that “truth”.
 

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Thank you for proving my point. He gained an audience of MEN when he started critiquing WOMEN. That is the draw; humbling women. Putting them in their “place”. Letting them know that they are overestimating their desirability. Rating random women 1-10.

Men enjoy that content.

When he was giving men advice, no one cared. That’s why I said that the dudes in here pretending like they listen to him for any other reason but his women-put-downs is lying. Y’all enjoy seeing women being told they are delusional, fat, old, broke, and undesirable. Y’all enjoy that “truth”.
look at this IG live and tell me you don’t see mostly women commenting:stopitslime:

Women enjoy his content as well.

His second biggest video is him telling a college student that he’s too broke, fat and his dikk is too small to date... I didnt hear y’all whining then.
It was a bunch of :russ: and :mjlol:

But all of a sudden he tells women to attract this 100k+ guy, you need to lose weight then all hell breaks lose.

Also with this rating shyt... I don’t know if you have any interactions with men IRL, but let me tell you a secret... we all do that shyt:whistle:
 
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