Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

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He does have a point. Think about men who ended up losing their jobs because they messed with a co-worker or subordinate, or dudes who had a bunch of baby mamas and are stuck paying child support and now they barely see much of their paycheck.
Remember the train conductor who got fired for letting some chick he was seeing drive the train and putting it on IG Live?:francis:
 

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Got some brothers who have built their whole posting careers on going against what men of the coli think is the right way. They won’t be able to acknowledge when the truth is being spoken. Be careful of that; so called men who think they’re the truth and being righteous. They know who they are.

They mainly post in these type of topics too
 
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You wrote all this bullshyt but an avid defender of Meg over sexual ass:skip:
Stop it
This is a prime example of a woman putting her nose into man business
You are not a man nor do you have a dikk
Your opinion means nothing on this topic
This is why you have emotional crash test dummies out here
But then you want to complain about said crash test dummies and Dhalsim stretch racism into the picture:skip:
Racism has nothing to do with what he is talking about:skip:
He’s telling men to stop thinking with their dikks, become disciplined and focused
Women want men to be accountable
Well the nikka is telling men to take control of their lives and elevate
Now this is a problem:skip:
This is where I can see majority of this board doesn’t have real conversations with elders
Everything this man has said
Somewhere in America an elder black man/black woman has said the same thing
But I gotdamn-guarantee you didn’t fix your mouth and tell your elders they were wrong
You sat their and ate your food:pachaha:
You love to talk that big girl talk but do you have the same smoke for this woman

Or are you saying this woman doesn’t get it:jbhmm:
But of course you being a modern woman will find her delivery wrong, obtuse and lacking in depth:skip:
Yall don’t know what to be mad at but full of hypocrisy and contradictions
And you want goof troop nikkas to kiss your ass while still promoting toxic messages
I can be a mother but not a wife :skip:
Or not addressing real issues that plague the black community
Ie single boys in single lead black mother homes is detrimental ass fukk
But that conversation leads to a goofball calling you a c00n:skip:
We get it, black women can do no wrong:pachaha:
Nobody wants the truth just conjecture, cognac and conversations with no solutions:wow:

You posted this shyt like you had a mouth full of marbles. And it was STILL based on flawed ass principles. Part of the reason I like Megan the Stalkion is because it gets sorry ass hypocritical men like you triggered. I find it entertaining to see dudes consume 40 years of “bytches aint shyt” “til the sweat drips down my balls” rhetoric, then turn around and become hypocritical pearlclutchers on some “what about the kids” bullshyt when women follow suit.:russ:

That’s a TOTALLY separate issue from a twink in a tailor suit peddling stereotypes about blk men decontextualized from the effects of white supremacy.

Ya’ll wanna be conservative so bad and wanna ass kiss “da ancestors” without understanding that this fukked up society REACHED this point because of a lot of the fukked up shyt that went down with our ancestors in the past. Instead of a dumb ass uninspired plea to return to the old ways, which were fukked up too, I wonder when we as a society is gonna have the brains to acknowledge how we fukked up in the past and present and use our mistakes to create healthier gender relationships and discussions based off mutual respect.

As for Heaven Scamuels, him just saying that blk men are hypersexual is intellectually dishonest and irresponsible without a nuanced discussion of how some blk men and women got this way in the first place.

Peace.
 

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Breh.. :russ:

You see why these mfers fcked up..

How we in deep conversation on how fcked up child support court is on a Monday, to not agreeing how your bad decisions with your dikk will land you in a fcked up situation on a Friday?

Someone link that thread of the study that shows how people can't think straight and get lost in their heads.. This thread is definitely it.. :pachaha:
Can't serve 2 masters. You either pick a side, or KIM. Simple:yeshrug: Folks sayin right message, but wrong messenger. After awhile that gets played out.
All it takes is for someone you love, to say some shyt you don't like. Denzel could say the same thing and watch nikkas be tight :mjlol: Valid is valid
 

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If you wanna talk about blk male hypersexuality, then don’t be intellectually dishonest. Talk about how fukked up Western culture is when it comes to gender dynamics in the first place and how that has contributed to this hypersexual shyt in the first place. Then tell the truth about how we were born into a toxic ass society, had these tropes superimposed upon our community, then had opportunities stripped away from African Americans time and time again until all that’s left for some is to locate their value in their genitalia. Then talk about how our community is INUNDATED with negative imagery of extremes based on the European sick way of understanding gender dynamics and their fascination with Blacks as hypersexual brutes and Jezebels.

:deadrose: Don't nobody got time for that. You forget, he's not a historian, he's an engineer. :pachaha:

You must have missed when he devoted a whole show to breaking down how fairytale feminism was marketed to women to encourage consumerism. It was good. He covers these topics regularly, but its usu just sprinkled in, not the whole meal. :ld:
 

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it ain't a "western" issue alone homegirl

the motherland is a mess too & they making babies like it's going out of style

caribbean same way south/central.america same way

it's just a sad fact nikkas be fukking & nutting up in everything before they have their house in order

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It’s not but I could argue and completely back up the fact that the homosexually latent European misogynistic culture that got funneled down through the Judeo-Christian influence is one of the most psychologically fukked ways of understanding harmony between the genders in both the old and new world. Don’t get me wrong. I don’t romanticize pre-colonial cultures prior to European influence, but their superimposition of rigid Victorian pearl-clutching Madonna/whore bullshyt made whatever issues indigenous cultures and civilizations were going through 100x worse.

Do you know there were literal accounts from Europeans themselves talking about how harmonious shyt was between Native American men and women prior to their influence. That the Natives were evil and backwards b/c they didn’t consolidate power in the hands of one gender and had healthy sexual relationships unconstrained by religious shame. That in these communities everyone took care of children not worrying about whose seed was whose.

Did you know part of the plight of women in the Middle East came from Western interference in those communities?
Or that Europeans were mad that they had to go through both African kings AND queens to steal land from African kingdoms because precolonial kingdoms had healthy understandings of how to maintain patriarchal constructs without having to fukk over women.

The concept of prostitution wasn’t even a thing prior to Western religious influences in a number of cultures.
And now evolutionary biologists are finding that our ancient ancestors were largely egalitarian for the majority of the existence of humanity.

Them mofos from the Caucus mountains fukked a lotta shyt up because their environments were harsh. Instead of taking their fukkery as the be all end all, we need to think in healthier ways when it comes to human sexuality.
Confront the past to contextualize and make sense of the present. Until we do so, we as a world will be stuck in this fukked up cycle of dysfunction. And being black in this fukked up cycle just exacerbates it b/c we get dumb ass color coded engendered ideas from the West too.
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:deadrose: Don't nobody got time for that. You forget, he's not a historian, he's an engineer. :pachaha:

You must have missed when he devoted a whole show to breaking down how fairytale feminism was marketed to women to encourage consumerism. It was good. He covers these topics regularly, but its usu just sprinkled in, not the whole meal. :ld:
Nah that’s a cop out. He has hours of content. There’s always time.

If we don’t have time for it, then the message gets lost and distorted. If the powers that be have taken the time to delicately layer these tropes onto our struggle, we have to be just as meticulous in dismantling them. Why? Because if we don’t, we fall prey to actually believing and perpetuating these stereotypes about ourselves.

I’d argue that in spite of the blk image in the media blk men and blk women are actually not as hypersexual as we think.
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There’s been studies that show how blk men use protection more than other races of men, are more progressive than men in other communities and how blk girls in college were amongst the least sexually active.

We are a twerking community. We are a sensual people, but anything we do sexually gets demonized and vilified while whites are over there running entire child sex slave rings and putting their dikks in bear traps or watching snuff films to get off.
:hhh:

We shouldn’t have to rely on 17th century anti-blk intellectual stereotypes of blk sexuality to make a point about key issues with sex in our community.
And anybody with a platform has a responsibility to contextualize what is said about our community especially when a large portion of viewers are white racists chomping at the bit to eat this type of shyt up.

It may seem like I’m trying to cop pleas for blk dudes or blk women but I’m not. The way this shyt is discussed matters.
 

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He's right.

Sources: Myself in my early 20's and hence why I made the thread about what age did you get your shyt together. Spent an absurd time chasing p*ssy or trying to get it instead of getting a bachelor's or saving money. I was content with my salary because I was smashing on a regular. That's thinking with your dikk and putting the p*ssy on a pedestal

 

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Topics like this are where youre able to stump the so called smart brothers. They hate this man, but are unable to admit when he’s right.

For the most part, we as black men do think with our dikks, and there’s example after example that prove this. If anyone else said this, they’d admit it, but because they want to pander and are hell bent on going against a “coli daddy” they’ll go against it. That pride boy
 

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(Sigh) Part of the reason I don’t like him is b/c he spits these hot takes without any historical nuance or context.

He does it when he fixes his mouth to bytch about women. And dudes just go along with it b/c they wanna see chicks get humbled.

Now when he does it to blk men, it’s JUST as bad. And cringeworthy.

It’s not about deflecting to blaming systemic white supremacy.
But it’s important to understand that tge shyt didn’t just come outta nowhere. Blks weren’t born like this. Nor can we just expect blks to pull themselves out of their dysfunction if we too shook to even acknowledge the sources of social conditioning that lead to this type of behavior.

A LOT of posters have cursed me out and argued me down claiming I “hate female accountability” when I used to clown this dude for his oversimplification and humiliation of blk women for clout and fame.

Some will go with this idiot to the bitter end but now I hope some dudes understand why I say this dude ain’t it. He’s just providing fodder for racists.

If you wanna talk about blk male hypersexuality, then don’t be intellectually dishonest. Talk about how fukked up Western culture is when it comes to gender dynamics in the first place and how that has contributed to this hypersexual shyt in the first place. Then tell the truth about how we were born into a toxic ass society, had these tropes superimposed upon our community, then had opportunities stripped away from African Americans time and time again until all that’s left for some is to locate their value in their genitalia. Then talk about how our community is INUNDATED with negative imagery of extremes based on the European sick way of understanding gender dynamics and their fascination with Blacks as hypersexual brutes and Jezebels.

THEN we can have a nuanced discussion about ways to fix this shyt. But without dismantling some very harmful paradigms in this fukked up society, having these types of discussions on a public platform is ironically only perpetuating the shyt he claims to want to fix.

Why can’t people see that? I saw the writing on the wall when he was alluding to blk women being masculine and manly and some skipped all over the obvious b/c u were drunk on the novelty of women you desire that don’t want you getting humiliated online.

When that kitten heel turns and he starts promoting racist stereotypes of blk men under the banner of “accountability” I hope people will understand what I’d been saying in the past.

Or not. This shyt is NOT fixing our community. There’s a better way to address these types of issues.:yeshrug:
Yeah, no.:rudy:
This is plainly the very type of projection, and deflection KS is often accused of.
 

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didn't watch the video...but im guessing he's saying is that too many men let puzzy control their lives....until EVERYTHING they do is motivation to impress women....

and that is clown shyt....i like women as much as the next hetero male....but i have hobbies and interests that have nothing to do with women or for impressing women....i do them for my own peace
I think he's talking about men who have nothing to offer a woman but the ability to spit game and lay pipe and are content with that. There are dudes out there that think having a good sex game makes them a man even if they have nothing else going for them.

It reminds me of this dude I worked with years ago at Amazon, he was smashing a married white girl that worked there, dude was constantly clowning her husband, calling him a lame and shyt, a man none of us had ever met. This girls husband was a doctor, but dude really felt like he was above her husband just because he fukked his wife.
 
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