Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

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Listened to his latest show after taking a break from it for a while. I think he needs to bring more women that hit the wall and are coming down from their high expectations on the show more.

I can't help but think there's a generation gap when he's talking about the ideal body type for a HVM. It comes across that he just doesn't like women with breast and ass. It's hilarious though.

some of us like fit women. Who you smash and who you marry especially if you want multiple kids are not the same. Hence the concept of a woman having “room to grow” into her post kid bodu
 

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I'mma assume you didn't watch the show.

Kevin basically is teaching economics class via black women center relationship talk.

He's introducing the hypothetical that; if black women do not want black men marrying white girls, but, 70% of black women don't wanna get married, then what exactly do they expect black men to do...be single and childless til death?

Kevin isn't a swirler all of the sudden. He's challenging black women.

Regardless, most Americans are culture/race loyal, no race is dating more than 15% out.

Most black women want to get married. The problem is they over estimate they’re SMV and they’re looking for a man who doesn’t exist, so they won’t get married.
 

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Black male newlyweds weds marry at almost 25% out now for new marriages but according to Pew Research's 2017 intermarriage data

39% of US born Hispanic newlyweds marry out
46% of US born Asian newly weds marry out

:unimpressed:Context is king. That's by race and we're talking newlyweds.

According to that link;

They are talking about 670,000 new marriages. Once you break it down by race and percentages we're talking tens of thousands of interracial marriage newlywed per race.

Overall,

Marriage looks a lot different today in many ways than in years past. As our nation becomes more racially and ethnically diverse, so are married couples.

The percentage of married-couple households that are interracial or interethnic grew across the United States from 7.4 to 10.2 percent from 2000 to 2012-2016. This change varied across states and counties and for specific interracial/interethnic combinations


Growth in Interracial and Interethnic Married-Couple Households

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70% of black women don't wanna be married is more ancedotal as that's the divorce rate for black women and also only about 25% of black women are married.


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Most black women want to get married. The problem is they over estimate they’re SMV and they’re looking for a man who doesn’t exist, so they won’t get married.

Most women do overestimate their SMV. BUT most guys over estimate their value as a provider. Just look at all the guys in this thread that were patting themselves on the back cause they make 60k which is top 15 - 20% of black males like that means anything to women. While that's a great personal accomplishment it doesn't increase your value to women as a provider. Your wife would still need to work full time so you can have a basic middle class family lifestyle. You are not the prize or catch you think you are.

Cause from a woman's stand point you are not any better than a breh making 30 to 40k. She would still have to work full time if she dated a guy making that as well and the lifestyle from combined income would be the same as if she married a 60k breh. You can't expect a women to kiss your ass and worship the ground you walk on when she is working full time and just as hard as you. That treatment is for HVM and those can provide a middle class lifestyle on 1 income.
 

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Most women do overestimate their SMV. BUT most guys over estimate their value as a provider. Just look at all the guys in this thread that were patting themselves on the back cause they make 60k which is top 15 - 20% of black males like that means anything to women. While that's a great personal accomplishment it doesn't increase your value to women as a provider. Your wife would still need to work full time so you can have a basic middle class family lifestyle. You are not the prize or catch you think you are.

Cause from a woman's stand point you are not any better than a breh making 30 to 40k. She would still have to work full time if she dated a guy making that as well and the lifestyle from combined income would be the same as if she married a 60k breh. You can't expect a women to kiss your ass and worship the ground you walk on when she is working full time and just as hard as you. That treatment is for HVM and those can provide a middle class lifestyle on 1 income.
You just keep lying.....
 
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Dudes will be better off to get in where they fit in, but at the same time, women gotta concede that it won't be many of them will get a second look by a HVM let alone cuffed. KS really be trying to communicate that to them, but they genuinely be asking him advice on how these men can accept their averageness
 

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Dudes will be better off to get in where they fit in, but at the same time, women gotta concede that it won't be many of them will get a second look by a HVM let alone cuffed. KS really be trying to communicate that to them, but they genuinely be asking him advice on how these men can accept their averageness
And here ls the problem.Most think they deserve the top guy. And while that happens the guy that in their range doesnt stand a chance. Even if she gets with the average guy, she will make him suffer for what he is not.
 
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And here ls the problem.Most think they deserve the top guy. And while that happens the guy that in their range doesnt stand a chance. Even if she gets with the ac=verage guy, she will make him suffer for what he is not.

This is why I think KS is important for the overall discussion of relationships in the black community. I've literally seen dude ask countless times 'Whats so wrong with someone at your level' and they have no answer other than they feel they deserve more, and can't even explain why they feel they 'deserve' that

Edit: this is why I said in my earlier post he should bring more women on the show that are past that stage of expectancy and let women hear from fellow women why it's delusional.
 

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This is why I think KS is important for the overall discussion of relationships in the black community. I've literally seen dude ask countless times 'Whats so wrong with someone at your level' and they have no answer other than they feel they deserve more, and can't even explain why they feel they 'deserve' that

Edit: this is why I said in my earlier post he should bring more women on the show that are past that stage of expectancy and let women hear from fellow women why it's delusional.
And as long as they feel they deserve more it will never change.
 

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The 60k comes from the scenario I posted in here earlier where I asked dude what he would tell his son/nephew to do if he was making that and couldn't find a black woman to start a family with. Nobody answered the question an instead just started picking apart 60k and saying it wasn't enough to date average women blah blah blah etc...

People started adding all types of extras that weren't there until we got to the point where 60k is broke and you gotta holla at washed up single moms. :mjlol:

If a black man is making 60k and can’t find a black woman who has kept her weight in check and doesn’t have kids, he’s usually not going to fare better by branching out. No group desires black men more than black women.

But if your hypothetical situation was reality and not the typical case of a dude lowering his standards for a non black woman, then yes of course he should explore his options.

people should explore their options regardless. let’s just stop pretending “there ain’t no good black women out here” just so dudes can justify getting a non black woman.
 

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If a black man is making 60k and can’t find a black woman who has kept her weight in check and doesn’t have kids, he’s usually not going to fare better by branching out. No group desires black men more than black women.

But if your hypothetical situation was reality and not the typical case of a dude lowering his standards for a non black woman, then yes of course he should explore his options.

people should explore their options regardless. let’s just stop pretending “there ain’t no good black women out here” just so dudes can justify getting a non black woman.

No one is promoting anything.

If you think he should expand his options than that's all that has to be said.
 

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No one is promoting anything.

If you think he should expand his options than that's all that has to be said.

it’s not all that has to be said

y’all are creating this alternate reality where black men can’t find black women so they HAVE to look elsewhere

that’s some stupid shyt and it’s just flat out false
 
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