Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[Umoja]

Same could be said to justify white supremacy. And fukk DJ Vlad.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

That clearly isn't what she said. Who told you that men don't get housing assistance, or that "men are always the violent ones?"

That isn't what posters are saying at all.
They're pointing out the idiocy of "men building the world" (they didn't, and certainly not alone), "the matriarchy" isn't a phenomenon here in the U.S., and the obsession with red-pill ideology is just bootlicking.

You're distorting what Du Bois said, he pointed out the obvious: race is a social construct. It is predicated on the exploitation of Black labor and therefore by exploiting perceived differences, augmented as "race" and elastic (as one group can move in and out of favor). He also opposed capitalism, was in favor of socialism, and was for women's liberation - you're certainly not winning any points by contorting what he said.

I ain’t distort shyt... now, did Dubois tinker with that subject over his life? Yes.... But all in all, he communicated that race wasn’t a real concept. Not sure why you brought that other shyt up

 

[HARLEM AL]

Youre being disingenuous with your reply and im not sure why because im coming at you fairly and logically.

No one said men are ALWAYS violent. I said that domestic violence is not an area where it is more beneficial to be a woman. I know of many men who have beat the dogshyt out of their loved ones.

Im a 6'5, 250lb black men. I do not see women as a physical threat to me personally. If you do, then so be it. But if we wanna be real, i think the majority of domestic violence cases in history have been men beating women, not the other way around.

I dont understand your point with minority hires. Are you against minority hires? Are you for them? Do you think that women are taking away jobs from men? Are you against women having equal representation in the workforce?

I guess you must work in a female dominated field. I'm an Engineer, in my field we outnumber woman maybe 15-to-1. I would have no occupational benefit or gain from being a woman.

I do agree fully that homeless men are looked at with less sympathy than homeless woman. Ill give you that point. Its not something that impacts me personally, but it absolutely impacts society and more should be done about it.

Then I think you need to read up on the Duluth Model.........

 

[KidJSoul]

Alotta yall are ignoring the forest to look at a leaf, not even a tree.

Rewatch the video, Kevin Samuels is quoting Jordan Peterson word for word when he mentions the Scandinavian social experiments. Its JPs favorite talking point. And its not even like its a horrible point in that bubble.

But when you extrapolate it into other settings (like race).. you end up with logic that pretty much states that white men deserve to be racist in a society that was built upon said racism.

There is no equality with this logic because the ruling class does not owe equality to anyone. In fact, you owe them. You should be happy cacs give you anything with this logic.

Im amazed at how some of you lack the basic ability to take an idea and see how it plays out in other scenarios. It is legitimately baffling to me. Its like yall would side with a monster as long as he was also against your enemies

Well put. People are HORRIFIC at seeing the big picture and connecting the dots. Either that, or their emotions are so strong that they are willing to cut their nose to spite their face.

I'm not saying you even need to be a 100% radical feminist or shyt. But damn, you don't see how most of the logic you use to shyt on women is similar to the arguments used to hate on black people?

It's like some of these dudes hate women so much they'd rather side with alt-right talking points that have correlation with blatantly racist shyt. It's ironic too, because historically, many white racists have also been willing to support laws that would fukk themselves over as long as it satisfied their hatred and subjugation of black people.

It's funny. Then they get mad when some people point out how some black men are basically white supremacists in blackface.

Again, I'm not even saying y'all have to be 100% radical feminist or think that women are above criticism. I'm just saying, shyt, either be aware, or let the hatred in your heart go.

 

[KidJSoul]

Then I think you need to read up on the Duluth Model.........

Eh.

When it comes to deaths from domestic violence, that's an area where it's undeniable that women have it worse.

Regular domestic violence? In some first world countries like the US, it's probably more equal than we think, I'll give you that. Men get arrested by default even if they are victims, it's easier for women to get away with potentially lying, and it gets officially jotted down and reported less.

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

But when you extrapolate it into other settings

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

As a man who built the world, I demand that you impart some of your thoughts and knowledge here.

LMAO! NOPE! It’s just gon add an a$$hole of fuel to the flames! Enjoy this beautiful Friday love!

 

[HARLEM AL]

So patriarchal society = white aupremacy...?

And since you answered men, are all men white?

This is basically what these nikkas are saying....

 

[Paragon]

He's right. Men are the creators of everything good in the world, and we don't owe females anything, they owe us and we should have the advantage. Also, black men are the main people that created everything good in the world, and we should have the biggest advantage over everybody.

 

[HARLEM AL]

Eh.

When it comes to deaths from domestic violence, that's an area where it's undeniable that women have it worse.

Regular domestic violence? In some first world countries like the US, it's probably more equal than we think, I'll give you that. Men get arrested by default even if they are victims, it's easier for women to get away with potentially lying, and it gets officially jotted down and reported less.

Thank you, That is all.

 

[spliz]

This is why nikkas need to not take nikkas like him serious. Regardless of how many points he makes.

 

[Big Blue]

nikkas really comparing a patriarchal society to white supremacy in this piece, but I need to go back to school...... Malcolm turning over in his grave....

How old are you? That may explain that foolishness you typing....

This dumbass, how are you the only one to misunderstand the entire debate.

Again nikka, did you graduate high school???? Why are are you dodging this question?

This nikka doesn't even know what Web Dubious stood for

 

[TallMan_J]

Didnt watch. Its been fukk Vlad since 2015. With that said, the premise of the Thread and video title has been used as justification for White Supermarcy. Through plundering and pillaging they instated a system that benefits them. These Ubersmench talking points always lead down the same Conservative cesspit. Once Gender Wars dissipate. In group fighting between men is fractured between Race and then Income/Socioeconomics.

Same could be said to justify white supremacy. And fukk DJ Vlad.

Not that it’s what you necessarily meant and I understand what you brehs are getting at, but....When you say this, it’s seems like you’re implying that white people built the world, which is absolutely FALSE.


They’re given waaay too much credit for their contributions to society.

 

[King]

Not that it’s what you necessarily meant, but....When you say this, it’s seems like you’re implying that white people built the world, which is absolutely FALSE.


They’re given waaay too much credit for their contributions to society.

I didn’t imply anything, it’s nuanced. Post was meant to point out the inherent fallacy in his reasoning.

 

[Still Benefited]

So you haven’t been assimilated and that’s the real source of all your smoke?

Militant integrationism lol

We all have some assimilation,but assimilated is when you throw all knowledge of self to the bushes and say your name is Toby.