Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[Ahadi]

@TheManFromVA UGH I wish women dressed MORE like this now.

The last two images.

Dorothy Dandrige aka “why we like Halle Berry today”

&

Helen Williams, first black female model.

 

[HarlemHottie]

@TheManFromVA UGH I wish women dressed MORE like this now.

The last two images.

I do. Ppl randomly stop me and my mom in the summer just to compliment our dresses. (Im not as approachable alone.)

Young men like it more than id expect tbh.

 

[Deafheaven]

Brehs gonna be 45 and still trying to look like this:



and this nikka almost 40.

y’all really don’t see how this might make you look crazy in the presence of well dressed men?

Yet in his field hes more successful than a majority of cats who have to wear suits daily.

I really dont get the endgame here. So dudes cant wear shyt they feel comfortable in, in their leisure time


And I literally just wear black. Thats it. But Ill be damned if I care what the next man got on unless is absurdly gaudy. And even then, ill care for 2 seconds and be on my way.

 

[LV Koopa]

Why do y’all kevin samuelites be getting so offended

 

[UberEatsDriver]

The person he was reading about felt embarrassed walking out in a suit?






That’s sad but I bet he isn’t embarrassed walking around with his underwear sticking out

 

[Deuterion]

But why do you keep talking about wp tho? Other people see us too. You dont think black kids notice how we dress? How we present to the world?

He only used birth of a nation to illustrate the effect of an image created 100 yrs ago on our lives to this very day. He's talking about how we look to ourselves and the images we allow to circulate. He then segued into sports media- a lot of whom are bp themselves- shytting on kwame brown for 20 yrs, and how all but the most hypermasculine famous bm eventually get called gay (even Denzel in the 80s), etc, etc.

Same shyt we talk about here everyday.

I’m not bringing up White people...KS is bringing them up and I’m responding to what he’s saying. I gave you the quote, the nikka said in so many words “The media says you’re a thug nikka, show them you’re not by not dressing like a thug nikka” and my point is I wear suits all the time and to the media I’m a thug nikka in a suit. I’m all about elevating our look but I’ve seen brothas in Jordans, Jeans, and caps that wore them so professionally, sophisticated, and well-kept...I’ve learned that you can wear anything and make it look sophisticated if that’s who you are.

Now I understand that he’s talking about our internal politic and how we see ourselves but his answer for us is to cater to white sensibilities which is why he mentioned the media and contradicting their narrative in the first place. He wants us to appear in a manner more palatable to White people and I can’t get with that because White people will never respect anyone they have more guns then.

On top of that, this dude said Black women are not attractive and have manly features, said Black men talk funny because of our big lips...I’m not giving this moist nikka any benefit of the doubt with this buffoonery he be on.

 

[fifth column]

Respectability politics based question about modern racism.

Try not to get in your feelings before answering the question. Because I know how some of y’all can get emotionally triggered.

But in the last 30 years we’ve seen hundreds (maybe thousands) of clips of Black men being beat, abused and murdered by the police.

In all of these videos. How many of the Black male victims were wearing a suit at the time?

Why don’t we go back to the 40s, 50s, 60s where everyone wore suits and still was getting beat, abused and murdered by police. Changing into a suit doesn’t change anything. Change from inside with your mindset.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Wether you want to admit or not your imagine is everything and you will be judged by it.


And yes people will treat you differently. Cal it unfair all you want but that’s natural habits for humans

 

[invalid]

Haven't watched the video.
But KS is right.
But of course, black men will rebel
Against anything they assume is white.
Don't want to have to conform to anything.
But it's whatever at this point.
The two roads of black America have diverged
A long time ago.

 

[fifth column]

Two things:

1. Respectability politics is rooted in White Supremacy. During slavery they allowed the "good house slaves" to wear handmedowns from the slaveowners while the field slaves wore rags. This created the belief that as long as Black people dressed like their slaveowners, they would be respected:


Dressing for Freedom - Abena L Mahoon


2. The reason Steve Jobs, Zuckerburg and other successful people wear the same basic fit every day is based on the theory of Decision Fatigue. Successful people don't spend valuable brain power on mundane things such as wardrobe


Decision fatigue: Effects, causes, signs, and how to combat it

Well put together sir. We should model what successful people are doing, what they wear is insignificant.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Half of that shyt is 10x tackier than a pair of Js

Half of the Js that come out are tacky. Do better

 

[HarlemHottie]

I gave you the quote, the nikka said in so many words “The media says you’re a thug nikka, show them you’re not by not dressing like a thug nikka”

Now I understand that he’s talking about our internal politic and how we see ourselves but his answer for us is to cater to white sensibilities

No, he said to dress like an adult MAN who handles BUSINESS. You putting extras on it.

I could slay fashionova. Get me some mermaid hair, batwing lashes, and be. doing. that. shyt. But im a grown damn woman.

When do bm reach that point?

 

[Ahadi]

What do you assume a black man in a suit in NYC in 2021 is doing then? Most people successful or not just wear casual clothes from my experience. Department store, high end security and doormen are required to wear suits so that’s what I assume.

Being a black man.

 

[fifth column]

Wether you want to admit or not your imagine is everything and you will be judged by it.


And yes people will treat you differently. Cal it unfair all you want but that’s natural habits for humans

I disagree, people will treat you differently based on how much value you bring to their lives. If you are a pretender then your image is all you got.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Your style should match your personality. I will leave it at that. If you wanna wear a blazer to go grocery shopping in 95 degree weather then more power to you.

lol


You think suit dressers wear suits 24/7?


A white v neck shirt and comfortable light slacks and white tennis shoes and nice hat or not will work.