Kevin Owens vs Undisputed WWE Universal Champion Roman Reigns: WWE Royal Rumble January 28, 2023 8Est/5Pst Premium Live Event Streaming on Peacock

[Larry]

Where did I say it flopped? You're just like all these dudes you complain about. Stop putting words into my mouth. I feel they rushed the Sami turn and the reasoning behind it doesn't make sense unless they are going to explore why Sami feels he needs to save Kevin Owens from himself all the time. You're starting to get passive aggressive just like your bff.

nikka..

1. You over complicating the shyt. It’s wrestling b.. Roman was beating the dog shyt out of Jey, turned him into a slave or something.. and now he’s riding for him. Nothing makes sense. It’s wrestling.

2. Ain’t shyt passive. In a thread full of people praising the beat down, you’re the one nikka talmbout sticking landings. All I said is there’s always that one nikka.. I don’t know why you mad at me for that. shyt, I’ve literally been the one nikka. We all be the one nikkas. This whole forum is full of “the one nikka” ass nikkas. That’s life..


And not sticking the landing sounds like falling flat to me. If that’s not what you meant, that’s cool. End of the day, Sami finally caught the beats and I can’t wait to see where it goes from here. neither can you.


So cut the bullshyt and stop tryna get at me like I’m ya enemy cause I ain’t got a single issue with you my g

 

[Rayzah]

What layers? I'm talking kayfabe. When has Kevin Owens been a true friend to Sami Zayn?

Their real life friendship is kayfabe tho. Everyone knows they are good friends, it goes without saying

 

[g-ice]

just realized neither Nakamura nor Styles were in the rumble or on the show at all

better have some plans for the guys at Mania that's a glaring omission to say the least

AJ is injured

 

[Kidd Dibiase]

This nikka was like; bu bu bu but you don't understand their relationship. I hope yall are only viewing this as okay in a wrestling storyline frame of reference and not how actual relationships should work.

I mean before anyone says it, yes Undertaker and Kane should have been on sight for life using my logic but no was calling that shyt "cinema" or the greatest wrestling story ever told. You want to heap lofty praise like that it needs to hold up or ar least be subjected to scrutiny. Just because you like something doesn't make it perfect. I've never seen people stan a storyline to the point where even one aspect can't be criticized. I don't hate the storyline, I don't like how this part of it played out.

at minimum, have good cop bad cop with Roman/Heyman

have heyman remind Sami all the dirty shyt Owens did to him and ask him what Owens true motives are, you're happy here in the bloodline shmooley and he's trying to ruin that.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

I see what you're saying, but I can't see it working like that. This dissention leaves Roman vulnerable which I think will make his eventual title loss hit harder. He has to go Apocalypse Now style paranoid and he won't do that with the Bloodline at full strength. Also, KO's role is important, but KO and Sami's relationship isn't the focus, it's Sami and Jey and by extension, Jey and Roman. KO might be looking out for his own self interest, but deep down I think he got love for Sami in his own fukked up way and just won't admit it. Sami taking control of the Bloodline because Roman leaves wouldn't work because I don't see Roman tucking his tail and leaving and Sami don't seem like the type to take control of things, your idea works if Jey takes over, gets his confidence back and then we come full circle when Roman comes back to resume command. Sami stands by Jey and then KO comes in out of jealousy.

I don't know, I can sew Roman going insane and leaving the Bloodline to twist in the wind. If he loses those titles he loses his prestige. Not only would he consider them useless, he couldn't even face them as Trible Chief. Roman is both paranoid and insecure.

And I could see a character arc where Zayn does build confidence and leadership to actually lead instead of follow. But I did consider Jey Uso taking over as well. Both would be good as foils for a returning Reigns. But I do like the angle you pitched of a jealous KO rearing his head in Bloodline business again with his motivations on full display this time.

 

[Vice Queen]

@Rarely-Wrong Liggins has a fair criticism and with how carefully they've put this story together I hope they address it.

 

[mannyrs13]

just realized neither Nakamura nor Styles were in the rumble or on the show at all

better have some plans for the guys at Mania that's a glaring omission to say the least

AJ got injured at a house show few weeks back and Shinsuke said fukk it I'm staying in Japan after his match out there.

 

[dakidbanks]

just realized neither Nakamura nor Styles were in the rumble or on the show at all

better have some plans for the guys at Mania that's a glaring omission to say the least

I read somewhere that AJ is hurt.

Add Nakamura to the list of cats getting free money

 

[NotAnFBIagent]

With the whole bloodline storyline going on, I wonder if they intertwine it with one of the chamber matches or if they do something different like a match for the US or IC titles. I don't see what the women can do. Unless they make up enough tag teams for the women's tag titles or a match for the title that Rhea doesn't go after.



It be crazy if the bloodline completely crumbles and they put Roman, Solo, Jimmy, Jey, Sami, and Ko all in the chamber match.

I don't see Solo going against Roman. But then again he's been a stoic hitman type so no telling what he'd do with a championship opportunity

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Their real life friendship is kayfabe tho. Everyone knows they are good friends, it goes without saying

That doesn't make sense. KO was powerbombing this nikka on aprons while Zayn was his best man or some shyt. WE KNOW they are closer than brothers in real life but on TV they have been only positioned as rivals or tense allies. The only time they bring up their real life friendship is to put over how much of a scumbag is for Owens to continually betray and brutalize him.

 

[Silkk]

This nikka was like; bu bu bu but you don't understand their relationship. I hope yall are only viewing this as okay in a wrestling storyline frame of reference and not how actual relationships should work.

I mean before anyone says it, yes Undertaker and Kane should have been on sight for life using my logic but no was calling that shyt "cinema" or the greatest wrestling story ever told. You want to heap lofty praise like that it needs to hold up or ar least be subjected to scrutiny. Just because you like something doesn't make it perfect. I've never seen people stan a storyline to the point where even one aspect can't be criticized. I don't hate the storyline, I don't like how this part of it played out.

Ehhhh I always give wrestling siblings/family a pass




But something like Austin teaming up with HHH after he tried to kill him always got the from me

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

@Rarely-Wrong Liggins has a fair criticism and with how carefully they've put this story together I hope they address it.

Thank you. And I appreciate you actually arguing the point instead of bullshyt passive aggressive comments. The discourse on here gets worse and worse by the day. With the said yall asses roped me into an hour long back and forth on the shoulder of I-81 when I was only supposed to stretch my legs for two minutes.

 

[Rayzah]

I mean have we really seen it? KO kinda been boderline abusive to him since 2014 lol

I was ready to disagree with breh and say he was hating but he makes a compelling point about if anyone has been toxic and gaslighting him its KO

Now if they wanna acknowledge that and play it into the storyiine and give more layers and more cinema to it then thats good but they havent yet

I feel like this is wrestling and not game of thrones. I hear y’all but it’s kinda weird to say they didn’t stick the landing because of that point.

Also I feel like the story they are telling us is Sami and KO are really close and even tho they had some falling outs they are still boys at the end of the day. Again you can nitpick all you want but I’m not letting that sour this great story. That’s like me saying the ending needed blood to be perfect. Yes blood would have made a better visual but the point was still received.

 

[Larry]

When ya’ll overly try to make sense of wrestling, it always gets ridiculous

Roman literally beat his cousin into slavery, his cousins twin brother came to his aid and threw in the towel, only to join him as a slave. They then turned into BFF’s. Their younger brother, who randomly grew up by himself and has a completely different last name showed up and decided he wanted to be a slave too. It’s all stupid. Don’t overanalyze it too hard. This shyt ain’t Francis Ford Coppola breh

 

[jeh]

This nikka was like; bu bu bu but you don't understand their relationship. I hope yall are only viewing this as okay in a wrestling storyline frame of reference and not how actual relationships should work.

I mean before anyone says it, yes Undertaker and Kane should have been on sight for life using my logic but no was calling that shyt "cinema" or the greatest wrestling story ever told. You want to heap lofty praise like that it needs to hold up or ar least be subjected to scrutiny. Just because you like something doesn't make it perfect. I've never seen people stan a storyline to the point where even one aspect can't be criticized. I don't hate the storyline, I don't like how this part of it played out.

Agreed. Honestly it was rushed. Whatever was planned for Raw XXX that got cancelled I understand, plans change. But just to throw the whole Survivor Series(where he proved he would beat up Kevin Owens and help The Bloodline win) in the bushes and go back to the "another test of loyalty" and "is he friends with k.o" was not it.

Same problem I ha with the Logan Paul vs Roman feud..?How are you seeing double Logan, The Tribal Chief/Head Of The Table thing kicked off with Jey Uso, cause Jey wanted to be The Head Of The Table/Tribal Chief... Yet Paul is "I'm seeing Double " and "Are you the Tribal Chief or is Jey the Tribal Chief, cause he's like your twin" ...like wtf, his literally twin brother is standing right beside him...but I chalked it up as a new talent learning the ropes

When Sami was the number one contender, and Brock smashed him, and Reigns beat him (Sami)where was Owens... Or the time he interrupt Reigns during his promo when he was dressing Sami down only to get another opportunity for a title shot... Other than that Nowhere to be found. No master strategy, or conspiracy can explain the one sided relationship between them.