Kendrick Lamar - The Blacker The Berry (Prod. by Boi-1da)

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This shyt is dope. Bet they won't let him do THIS on SNL, Fallon...shyt nowhere.

They're lucky this shyt wasn't out when the shyt in Ferguson popped.

Glad tho...because that "I love myself" stuff had me thinking Kendrick was about be all about this cash grab music. He literally tried to go get that "Happy" money.

This is better for him and all of us, really. Lots of stuff in this song young cats wanna say. Like...to their white friends or white folk who they're around but can't find the way to express just how angry you can get when you know full well how much they hate you but try to act like they don't. How much they really would like to see you destroyed but put up with your existence as long as it benefits their own...yeah the anger in this is important.

Good shyt, Kendrick
I don't think Kendrick cares about charts. While I'm not really a fan of "i" I did like the message. And I think it's also tied to this track. i is about self love, this track is about someone with no self love.

Also on the breakdown in i Kendrick says "I went to war last night with an automatic weapon." Perhaps both songs are about the same person, before and after he gains self consciousness/love.
 

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Why, though? The whole context of the song is resisting anti-Blackness. People should be willing to address the complexities of anti-Blackness as it appears in our community, too. It's not like he made an entire song out of that one line, which would have been too much, but we can't pretend it's not part of the larger picture, either.

Too many people give rappers a pass for talking about shooting other Black folks and enslaving them with drugs, but then turning around and doing songs about Trayvon or Eric Garner as if they're social activists for us at the same time. That behavior is hypocritical at the end of the day, no matter how you look at it. A Black man getting shot by gangbangers and by police might have different causes, but at the end of the day a murdered Black man is a murdered Black man, and there are too many murdered Black men. Systemic racism of the police might be worse, but both problems will need to be addressed before our communities can thrive. I think people are missing that doing two contradictory things that make you a hypocrite does NOT mean those two things have moral or any other kind of complete equivalence.

Listen to Willie Hutch's Brothers Gonna Work It Out for another example of a classic that calls out pimps, drug dealers, and police at the same time. And that's from The Mack- no c00ning involved there.
YES.

He was basically saying he feels like a hypocrite. No one is saying "black on black crime" however he is growing in his "waking up" but understanding the perpetuating of "nikkas killing nikkas" is exactly what this system wants.
 

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You're so right,but I don't Kartel is built for these kind of conscious tunes. Maybe someone like capleton or sizzla would've been a good alternative, but Assassin still did his thing

Good choices:myman:

Gyptian still has some of my favorite conscious records:mjcry:....Got a unique voice and he dope with the melodys,hiphop should show em some love.


 

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So if a soldier drops a bomb on the bad guys and a civilian gets killed, is he then forever disallowed to mourn for the dead or expect justice if his family is harmed?

And furthermore 99% of the people American soldiers are killing pose absolutely no threat to their family at home.

So by your guys line of thinking all American soldiers are hypocrites.
Why are you arguing points no one brought up?

A soldier would be disallowed to mourn for the dead? A soldier shouldn't expect justice if his family is harmed? Who said this?

The rules of the argument were already made. No one is talking about what he should expect or be allowed to do. All that is being discussed is the inherent hypocrisy of someone murdering innocents without mourning them or feeling bad, and then feeling upset when other innocents are murdered by another's hand. shyt doesn't go together. The loss of family and friends are excluded in this conversation because that is a personal loss...even a cold blooded killer might feel emotional about that. However, if you been killing people for a good portion of your life wtf are you crying for when people on the other end of the country get killed; specifically if they died similarly to people who you've killed? No one's saying you can't, or shouldn't mourn...but there is inherent hypocrisy in doing so. You'd have to denounce that part of your life and make amends with the families of those you've killed to make me feel otherwise
 

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This shyt is dope. Bet they won't let him do THIS on SNL, Fallon...shyt nowhere.

They're lucky this shyt wasn't out when the shyt in Ferguson popped.

Glad tho...because that "I love myself" stuff had me thinking Kendrick was about be all about this cash grab music.
Why do you feel like that? I get a different vibe from "I" than I do from Happy.

I personally think we need more "I love myself" music from black artists
 
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Good choices:myman:

Gyptian still has some of my favorite conscious records:mjcry:....Got a unique voice and he dope with the melodys,hiphop should show em some love.



Good choice. We should be getting more dancehall/reggae- hip hop collabs.

What you think about Chronixxx i heard alot of good stuff about him, but I only heard one song from him
 

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He's not immune from being a stan:sas1:

lmao, i fx with coates heavy but would he give the same pass to a rapper he dont stan? what would he say about those boosie comments? saying that i agree with him, rappers shouldnt be treated like politicians. but dude went in on ll cool j for accidental racist well maybe ll just voicing a feeling of outreach :manny:
 
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