Kendrick Lamar - The Blacker The Berry (Prod. by Boi-1da)

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That's not what gangbangers do.

But soldiers kill people that pose absolutely no threat to their family every day.
Exactly, and hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians are killed . So I would have to say it is hypocritical
 

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Exactly, and hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians are killed . So I would have to say it is hypocritical

So you think if a guy goes to war, when he comes home he's wrong for expecting his family to not be harmed?

Y'all just break all logic to defend this shyt.

First off fighting in a war doesn't absolve you from deserving fair treatment or having morals/feelings

Second in this song Kendrick isn't talking about ganbangers being hypocritical. He's talking about all black people being hypocritical for pursuing justice for trevon.

Third. The two situations aren't even remotely related. Gang violence and state sanctioned murder are two wholy separate issues. Caring more about one than the other does not make you a hypocrite.
 

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Zimmerman was caught and got away, if he was a gang banger it would have been curtains

If they aren't caught they get killed in the streets

Death or Prison is the only path for a gang banger


nobody feels sorry for gang bangers not even themselves, they chose the life they live

Kendrick's line is was semantics to take focus off the unjust system and place blind on black people, when most black people do gang bang

the fact you have yet to make any sense of this line or show how it reflects in reality is proof enough

There were no gang bangers protesting for Trayvon Martin

show the me the gang bangers demanding the legal system to do something for Trayvon Martin
show me the gangs so called weeping for Trayvon martin

it didn't happen

Kendrick's line is a work of fiction with a purpose to cause is misdirection
and say, hey ******s you can't be upset about Zimmerman getting away scott free, when these imaginary gangsters weeping for Trayvon killed a black person yesterday
The line is expressing the sorrow, guilt, and emotional feelings Kendrick felt when finding out Trayvon Martin died. Does not mention the justice system. Does not even mention Zimmerman. These are all your assumptions on what kendrick was doing with that last bar.
"So why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street?"
You said yourself that in your opinion gangsters found Trayvon a "lame" or "schoolboy" so why would all of these rappers with gang connections and gang roots be creating all of these songs about police brutality and black killings out of no where? Have you been living in a cave? This killing clearly led to a wave of outrage expressed by everyone in the African American community from gang bangers to rappers to athletes. I don't need to post information you can simply google :mjlol:
 
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The line is expressing the sorrow, guilt, and emotional feelings Kendrick felt when finding out Trayvon Martin died. Does not mention the justice system. Does not even mention Zimmerman. These are all your assumptions on what kendrick was doing with that last bar.
"So why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street?"
You said yourself that in your opinion gangsters found Trayvon a "lame" or "schoolboy" so why would all of these rappers with gang connections and gang roots be creating all of these songs about police brutality and black killings out of no where? Have you been living in a cave? This killing clearly led to a wave of outrage expressed by everyone in the African American community from gang bangers to rappers to athletes. I don't need to post information you can simply google :mjlol:

Are you a fukking moron, rappers with gang ties, what does that mean lol, rappers aren't gang bangers they are rapping

Game has gang ties, but his children don't, they live in the suburbs and are wealthy living good lives

so what happened to Trayvon could've happened to his son, and he didn't move out the ghetto for that

I explained to you, street nikkaz do not fukk with or interact with regular people like that, they know Trayvon is not from the streets and about that life
that's HOW A GANG MEMBER COULD BE OUTRAGED AT HIS DEATH

When is law enforcement held at the same standard of integrity as street criminals

if you don't understand the difference, I don't know what to tell your dumb ass

and I know Kendrick said in the lyric, but the purpose of the lyric was to cause deflection

also the lyric is not grounded in reality, nobody wept for trayvon except for his parents

people were outraged because Zimmerman got off, that's the whole issue with the Trayvon situation

also if these gang members protesting for Trayvon can be googled?

What don't you just tell me, if that's easy

because it doesn't exists that's why

you fukking dumb ass
 

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So you think if a guy goes to war, when he comes home he's wrong for expecting his family to not be harmed?

Y'all just break all logic to defend this shyt.

First off fighting in a war doesn't absolve you from deserving fair treatment or having morals/feelings

Second in this song Kendrick isn't talking about ganbangers being hypocritical. He's talking about all black people being hypocritical for pursuing justice for trevon.

Third. The two situations aren't even remotely related. Gang violence and state sanctioned murder are two wholy separate issues. Caring more about one than the other does not make you a hypocrite.

Bruh. :why: you asked me the question then get mad at my opinion? No the guy isnt wrong for not expecting his family to get harmed. Reread what I said, reading is fundamental.
 

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The line is expressing the sorrow, guilt, and emotional feelings Kendrick felt when finding out Trayvon Martin died. Does not mention the justice system. Does not even mention Zimmerman. These are all your assumptions on what kendrick was doing with that last bar.
"So why did I weep when Trayvon Martin was in the street?"
You said yourself that in your opinion gangsters found Trayvon a "lame" or "schoolboy" so why would all of these rappers with gang connections and gang roots be creating all of these songs about police brutality and black killings out of no where? Have you been living in a cave? This killing clearly led to a wave of outrage expressed by everyone in the African American community from gang bangers to rappers to athletes. I don't need to post information you can simply google :mjlol:

:snoop:
 

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The concept is simple.

The de facto and de jure racist regime of the U.S. created all these problems for black folks, INCLUDING tropes such as gangbanging. And yet, KNOWING that the system has poisoned our communities SOME choose to perpetuate said tropes, and yet weep when that same system pits some one who is not US against us. He says that's hypocritical. Has nothing to do with respectability politics.

How many old heads you seen or heard say "We always hollerin' when THEY kill us, but we not saying nothing when we kill our own." I don't particularly agree, because I do think we respond in different ways. But the fact that the observation is there warrants the discussion.

We forever talking about black folks aren't a monolith but we bug the fukk out when someone says something that is divergent from the status quo. :beli:
 

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What does Trayvon not getting justice have to do with gang banging

gang bangers go to prison when they kill

gang bangers can kill other gang bangers who do wrong to their people

Trayvon was killed and no justice was served, he was not from the streets, he was not a banger, he didn't live by the code of the streets

so what happens in gang related situations has no barring on what happened to Trayvon

what don't you understand, it's a dumb ass comparison

and nobody has answered the question to what does gang banging have to do with Trayvon not getting justice
Just shut the fukk up you been repeating yourself all throughout this thread. Agree to disagree nikka, keep it moving.

You're arguing for the sake of argument


Reality is that way nikka :camby: go get some p*ssy
 
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