Kendrick Lamar - The Blacker The Berry (Prod. by Boi-1da)

[Master Teacher]

No more ad hominems! much appreciated breh (no sarcasm). A response with unnecessary offenses makes a world of difference.

You said there weren't any gangs marching members marching for Trayvon, but you can't tell me that gang members with bodies under them weren't vocal about how "unjust" the death was. Or even gang members homies/family members who wouldn't snitch on their own for shyt, even though their own may have snuffed some innocents along the way.

Now let's see; other than black on black crime the little kebler elf is talking about:

- Whites not being AA's friends:

"You never liked us anyway, fukk your friendship, I meant it",
"You hate me don't you?
You hate my people, your plan is to terminate my culture"
"You vandalize my perception but can't take style from me
And this is more than confession
I mean I might just press the button so you know my discretion
I'm guardin' my feelin's, I know that you feel it
You sabotaged my community, makin' a killin'
You made me a killer, emancipation of a real nikka"

- The object of his fight:

"This plot is bigger than me, it's generational hatred
It's genocism, it's grimy, little justification"

Generational hatred...does that mean anything deep to you breh? Or when you hear the words "Generational Hatred" all you think is how whites really feel about blacks?

Maybe I'm not making that much sense to you, so to keep it simple I'ma put it this way: A lot of us are fighting to overturn the judicial law and white society's views of blacks all accross the country. But if we don't teach the most unfortunate of us to love ourselves then we may as well be fighting white society AND self-hating c00ns at the same time. Can we battle these two fronts at the same time? I honestly think we can.

I can't tell about any of that shyt, YOU TELL ME, you are the one claiming this shyt to be true, SHOW ME
where cold blooded killers were going hard for Trayvon Martin, SHOW ME THIS

Once again, you can teach kids whatever you can love yourself as much as you want, these white people will still hate you, you can't stop people from hating you
that what it is, there's no reasoning with it, they do NOT NEED A REASON to hate you

which is why Kendrick shyt doesn't make any sense

There was a gang bang near Trayvon's neighborhood when he got shot, he's father loved him, he was a normal kid, everything you said makes no fukking sense at all

 

[Kenny West]

I don't even 100% disagree with Kendrick, but the way he stated his message was wrong, wrong, wrong. It does not make sense. He's preaching to the wrong damn people. Black people can't stop racism. Only white people can stop racism because they are the ones obviously being fukking racist. The line makes no sense sans to start controversy

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.... Which is why you have hella white kids who were once like "What about black on black crime".... now being like 'See, Now you black people want to agree just cause Kendrick said so!'



Song would have been 10000000000 x's better if he had pointed out to white people how the system/media fills their head and makes THEM fall into racism, rather than songs about imaginary gangsters crying about Trayvon.

What made you think he's telling black people to stop racism? What makes you think he's "preaching"? that first verse doesn't look like a sermon to me

What if he expressed himself by making a song, and one line got you in your feelings to the point that you're wildly misinterpreting the song ? Seems a little more likely, because I don't hear anything he said about blaming black people for racism. you out here telling grammy nominated artists how they shoulda made their songs n shyt.

You're right, because he already said it loud and clearly in a Rolling Stone mag while sticking up for the nubian white queen.

idgaf about that iggy shyt. besides every rapper cept snoop, cole and azelia banks co-signed her or stayed silent. prolly none of those three are your favorite rapper tho so

 

[JMurder]

shut the fukk up, it didn't go over anybody's head it he made crystal clear statement

When nikkas are saying "Trayvon didn't die of gang violence" how can you sit there and say this bullshyt

 

[Master Teacher]

When nikkas are saying "Trayvon didn't die of gang violence" how can you sit there and say this bullshyt

What the fukk are you talking about

Kendrick said "How can I weep for Trayvon Martin, when because of gang banging I killed someone black than me"

That shyt doesn't make any sense, because Trayvon martin wasn't a gang banger or living a street lifestyle

 

[DaChampIsHere]

What made you think he's telling black people to stop racism? What makes you think he's "preaching"? that first verse doesn't look like a sermon to me

What if he expressed himself by making a song, and one line got you in your feelings to the point that you're wildly misinterpreting the song ? Seems a little more likely, because I don't hear anything he said about blaming black people for racism. you out here telling grammy nominated artists how they shoulda made their songs n shyt.

idgaf about that iggy shyt. besides every rapper cept snoop, cole and azelia banks co-signed her or stayed silent. prolly none of those three are your favorite rapper tho so

"you assuming an awful lot of shyt I didn't write my dude"

I also don't have no favorite rapper. Can't even remember the last time I listened to a non-new rap song that wasn't laced with a remix from a non-rap/hip-hop DJ outside of a party. Most of them nikkas dumb as shyt, would not be caught being a "fan" of any of them.. Kendrick included.

What the fukk are you talking about

Kendrick said "How can I weep for Trayvon Martin, when because of gang banging I killed someone black than me"

That shyt doesn't make any sense, because Trayvon martin wasn't a gang banger or living a street lifestyle

Really outside of dikkriding / him apologizing to his white fans for everything he previously said in that song, that line has no purpose. None.

 

[JMurder]

What the fukk are you talking about

Kendrick said "How can I weep for Trayvon Martin, when because of gang banging I killed someone black than me"

That shyt doesn't make any sense, because Trayvon martin wasn't a gang banger or living a street lifestyle

Say the line right... He said "why did I weep for Trayvon"

Im not gonna sit here and explain something that should be simple as fukk to you. He never implied nor stated that Trayvon was living a street lifestyle. He asked a question.... "Why did he weep?" Now if you can solve the riddle, and then look at the next line.... You should be able to figure it out

 

[Roaden Polynice]

A lot of opinions flying hot and thick in this thread.

It's a good song. Very good song. Makes up for "i" and I'm excited to see how it fits in with the rest of the album (if it even is on the album. The more I listen to it the more it seems just like a pissed off missive for the backlash that he received from the Billboard interview, the overcompensating, the anger so on so forth).

The last line. Eh, I can see how people are irritated. Dunno, just sounded like he was making a comment on how hypocrisy is somewhat inevitable as a human and how difficult it is to navigate that terrain. And you can apply it to him, to gangbangers, anyone. Thing is with these new Kendrick songs, he messes with narrative and point of view a lot. It's tough to pin down, but it makes for good conversation I suppose.

 

[Kenny West]

"you assuming an awful lot of shyt I didn't write my dude"

I did say what if

I also don't have no favorite rapper. Can't even remember the last time I listened to a non-new rap song that wasn't laced with a remix from a non-rap/hip-hop DJ outside of a party.

before today

 

[Master Teacher]

Say the line right... He said "why did I weep for Trayvon"

Im not gonna sit here and explain something that should be simple as fukk to you. He never implied nor stated that Trayvon was living a street lifestyle. He asked a question.... "Why did he weep?" Now if you can solve the riddle, and then look at the next line.... You should be able to figure it out

There is no riddle, the line is stupid as fukk

its the "What about black on black crime" argument that has nothing to do with Trayvon Martin

Gang members weep for other gang members all the time, and regret their lifestyle, what does that have to do Trayvon

There weren't any gang members protesting for Trayvon, all the outrage in the community did not come from any fukking gangs

it's 2015, nobody give a fukk about gang banging outside of them lil shyt stain nikkaz in Chicago who don't even leave pass the corner store on their weak ass block

 

[Matt504]

Hopefully he's taken to task and asked to explain what he means by the line. I'd love to hear how he explains it in his own words.

 

[Claudex]

I can't tell about any of that shyt, YOU TELL ME, you are the one claiming this shyt to be true, SHOW ME
where cold blooded killers were going hard for Trayvon Martin, SHOW ME THIS

Once again, you can teach kids whatever you can love yourself as much as you want, these white people will still hate you, you can't stop people from hating you
that what it is, there's no reasoning with it, they do NOT NEED A REASON to hate you

which is why Kendrick shyt doesn't make any sense

There was a gang bang near Trayvon's neighborhood when he got shot, he's father loved him, he was a normal kid, everything you said makes no fukking sense at all

fukk you gonna do when people hate you? Are you gonna fight fire with fire or are you gonna not react to their hate and do you? nikkas are dying and suffering day after day because of how they let that white hate get them breh. That's the whole point. When you call me a moron for respectfully arguing with you that's a product of white hate, when a sista thinks you're not good enough to date that's a product of white hate, when you think that black people are sheep that's a product of white hate, when you think that nikkas are dumb that's a product of white hate, when you think nikkas won't ever change that's a product of white hate. That's why loving yourself is important, to do a u-turn on all those products of white hate.

To realize that we all want the same thing as negros, to enlighten every negro that doesn't know this simple truth that your fight as a negro is his/her fight. That's the purpose of black self-love. To do everything and anything so that you and I don't get separated. Self love is supposed to keep us knit in the face of the force that oppresses us. Otherwise we're always gonna be on the losing end.

Complaining about white supremacy is useless when you don't love yourself, and when you don't love yourself then you most definitely don't love me. And lack of self-love is crucial for the perpetuation of white supremacy. Because it doesn't matter how much we scream and riot as to how unfair things are, if we can't count on each other then all those efforts mean nothing.

So that's Kendrick's fight: The termination of the generational hate that we have for one another.

You ain't gotta respond to this one, just sleep on it and meditate breh.

 

[Northern Son]

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[JMurder]

There is no riddle, the line is stupid as fukk

its the "What about black on black crime" argument that has nothing to do with Trayvon Martin

You are an idiot

 

[Master Teacher]

fukk you gonna do when people hate you? Are you gonna fight fire with fire or are you gonna not react to their hate and do you? nikkas are dying and suffering day after day because of how they let that white hate get them breh. That's the whole point. When you call me a moron for respectfully arguing with you that's a product of white hate, when a sista thinks you're not good enough to date that's a product of white hate, when you think that black people are sheep that's a product of white hate, when you think that nikkas are dumb that's a product of white hate, when you think nikkas won't ever change that's a product of white hate. That's why loving yourself is important, to do a u-turn on all those products of white hate.

To realize that we all want the same thing as negros, to enlighten every negro that doesn't know this simple truth that your fight as a negro is his/her fight. That's the purpose of black self-love. To do everything and anything so that you and I don't get separated. Self love is supposed to keep us knit in the face of the force that oppresses us. Otherwise we're always gonna be on the losing end.

Complaining about white supremacy is useless when you don't love yourself, and when you don't love yourself then you most definitely don't love me. And lack of self-love is crucial for the perpetuation of white supremacy. Because it doesn't matter how much we scream and riot as to how unfair things are, if we can't count on each other then all those efforts mean nothing.

So that's Kendrick's fight: The termination of the generational hate that we have for one another.

You ain't gotta respond to this one, just sleep on it and meditate breh.

Once your not making any sense, your going off on a tangent, putting words in my mouth

now I'm complaining about white supremacy lol

I'm done, none of the points I brought you even addressed

 

[Master Teacher]

You are an idiot

You can't even explain the fukking line, because it makes no sense, there is no explainations

it's just "what about black on black crime"

if your so smart tell me what he was trying to say, even though he clearly stated what he meant