Kendrick Lamar - The Blacker The Berry (Prod. by Boi-1da)

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Yes, killed because of how they think of us, if we disregard how they think of us, we can easily end up in a situation that can get us killed by them. This doesn't mean we should obsess over what white people might be thinking of us but we must be aware at all times. The young man killed in Walmart for carrying a toy gun wasn't concerned with what white people might be thinking or how they might perceive his behaviors or he would have never been carrying it in the first place, his lack of awareness played a large role in him losing his life.

Nice response. Very true. It's not a matter of "Caring" what White People think. It's about being "Aware" cause those stereotypes get Paranoid White People to call police that Blacks with a Toy Gun in the same store he got it or a child with a toy gun in a park are "Threats" which ended both dead. Same with Trayvon. As long as we are in America we have to understand sadly they still run the country due to population. So there is nothing wrong with being "Aware". But I wouldn't say John Crawford awareness played a "Large" role, that was just some paranoid white person lying hyping up the situation. The only thing John did wrong was Be Black Man in a Store.
 

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To move this beyond music let me get this straight...you don't agree with any form of push back against gang violence, if it is aimed at gangs/community? Your view is the focus should solely be on the institution that creates them, right? So...gang outreach programs, stop the violence marches, guns for toys campaigns, etc...all that shyt is a waste of time to you right?

I have no problem with directly appealing to the community. Yes the system deserves blame. But there are things we as a community can do to address gang violence, teenage pregnancy, drug use, etc. Whether it's after school programs or job programs, we have options. I've never heard someone take your position on this subject. I have no problem with criticizing gang culture and combating it on a community level. Institutional change requires macro solutions - government policies, changes in the justice system, etc. Community change requires micro solutions.

These programs work much like Proactive works on acne, the surface of your skin may improve, even dramatically in certain circumstances, but Proactive doesn't cure acne, nothing you apply to your skin externally will cure acne, it has to be treated from the inside out to be dealt with in any meaningful way.

I'm not trying to minimize the effects of these programs because even more lives would be lost if they didn't exist, but these programs have existed for quite some time yet gangs still thrive and so does the violence because gangs are a symptom of a disease, outreach programs, after school programs etc, are all in place to treat symptoms (unemployment, hunger, assistance).
 
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do you think he's criticizing gang violence or law abiding citizens?

Why does gang violence have to do with Trayvon martin? He's not criticizing gang violence he's criticizing gang members who would stand against the verdict

and THAT IS WRONG

So I guess a member of the yakuza can't criticize the USA for fire bombing Tokyo after they already surrendered and dropping atomic bombs on them
 

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Those two things are diametrically different. :what: Are you saying that an unarmed innocent teen shot down by a racist white supremacist who was then let off by the court system and financially backed by other fellow racists the same thing as gang bangers shooting and killing each other? :what:
George Zimmerman isn't white you fukking dumbass

Everything is black and white yiu simple ass nikkas yall be tight for no reason stfu with this c00n shyt
 

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I think there's a difference between Kendrick talking about the black violence in his community and Bill O'Reilly using the issue to patronize and disrespect black people. O'Reilly isn't making an honest argument, he's essentially trolling to hide a racial animus. Kendrick has no racial animus towards his own fukking neighbors, let's be real.

MOST of his music has been about this issue.
you dont get it and neither does Kendrick , at least not yet. he might get it when he hits 40. or maybe not.


when you're real young you think, man the white man shouldnt be doing us like this but we shouldnt be doing us like this. and when we speak on the white man doing us dirty its hypocritical since we do each other just as bad.

sounds legit... then you look deeper. Why do we treat one another like we do? White supremacy(slavery, jim crow, today) white people have intentionally brainwashed black folks into hating themselves and thinking WHITE is RIGHT. Light skin is the Right skin. so forth and so on.

So ask me again. am i a hypocrite if i was brainwashed into hating myself? i didnt wake up one morning without white supremacy and still hate my fellow brotha/sista. i was TAUGHT to do this. So can you call me a hypocrite? I think not. THIS is what Kendrick doesnt understand yet. I hope bruh gets it eventually.
 

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George Zimmerman isn't white you fukking dumbass

Everything is black and white yiu simple ass nikkas yall be tight for no reason stfu with this c00n shyt

George Zimmerman is a white supremacist, white people agree and donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to him for murdering Trayvon.
 

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Why does gang violence have to do with Trayvon martin? He's not criticizing gang violence he's criticizing gang members who would stand against the verdict

and THAT IS WRONG

So I guess a member of the yakuza can't criticize the USA for fire bombing Tokyo after they already surrendered and dropping atomic bombs on them
The verse was about gang violence bruh

vs 1 fukkin bar about trayvon

Gang violence is senseless violence, Trayvon's death was senseless violence. connection made

Zimmerman's verdict was the injustice for sure. But Kendrick didn't mention zimmerman at all
 

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Kendrick is a talented rapper. He should stick to entertaining. I think some of yall hold these rappers social and political commentary in too high regard. The Trayvon line was terrible and pretty ignorant and only serves to throw black folks rightful outrage under the bus whether he intended to or not. And that's the main point, you guys are arguing the technicalities of the line in a world full of simple minded fox news watching idiots. Kendrick shouldn't willingly put himself in position where his words can be easily used to undermine the outrage blacks credibility on a clear cut racially motivated child murder.
 

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The verse was about gang violence bruh


vs 1 fukkin bar about trayvon

Gang violence is senseless violence, Trayvon's death was senseless violence. connection made

Zimmerman's verdict was the injustice for sure. But Kendrick didn't mention zimmerman at all

If you can't see why people have a problem with Kendrick using Trayvon Martin's name/case, I don't know what to tell you.
 
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