Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (Discussion Thread)

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This dude selling black pain right now and white media is gonna crown him as some sort of breakthrough artist. I'm out. :hubie: He's been doing this for A LONG time. Milking trauma when he should be making music. This is slam poetry shyt. This isn't ... music. its an art project.
This dude selling black pain right now and white media is gonna crown him as some sort of breakthrough artist. I'm out. :hubie: He's been doing this for A LONG time. Milking trauma when he should be making music. This is slam poetry shyt. This isn't ... music. its an art project.
This dude selling black pain right now and white media is gonna crown him as some sort of breakthrough artist. I'm out. :hubie: He's been doing this for A LONG time. Milking trauma when he should be making music. This is slam poetry shyt. This isn't ... music. its an art project.

All up in this thread talking about Black pain when he aint even black.
 
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Just finished my first listen. I REALLY enjoyed this. I'll need to run it a couple more times and live with the music a bit to gain some additional perspective, but I think something like this was really needed.

Just about every artist has something to say about mental health these days, but you rarely see mainstream artists willing to actually explore the root causes of these issues. It's like finally seeing someone finish "It's okay to not be okay....." with ".....but I should maybe really figure out why I'm not okay."

I won't bother ranking this among his albums, since I think each album brings something different to the table, and can't truly be judged against each other. That said, this is obviously closer to TPaB in his discography, as both seemed like more like albums where he had a very clearly defined point, and built an album around that, as opposed to making an album, and then working the point around the music, if that makes sense.

That said, I can see how the production could be a letdown for a lot of people. This is an album with a lot of instrumentals that are really there to be soundbeds for the bars, and less actual parts of the song. But there are some pretty good ones on here.

And I legitimately laughed at the hook on "Silent Hill"

"Push these nikkas off me like huuuuhhhhh" :mjlol:
 

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off first listen its a cool album but it is not THAT mindblowing..auntie diaries though...got this a nikka a nikka please especially with that last bar

but i think this album more of less sums up my feelings about kendrick...his production has to be interesting for his songs to really pop for me...his flow isnt that interesting even though he has bars...its the reason why i never got into section 80 or gkmc but why i thought tpab was incredible and damn was solid


but the songs i fukked with on here

N95
Die Hard
Rich Spirit
Silent Hill
We Cry Together
Purple Hearts
Mirror
 

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The genius breakdown of Auntie Diaries for people needing context:

If ever they was pronounced without any intentions
The very second you challenged the shyt I was kicking
Reminded me about a show I did out the city
That time I brung a fan on stage to rap
But disapproved the word that she couldn't say with me
You said, "Kendrick, ain't no room for contradiction
To truly understand love, switch position
'fakkit, fakkit, fakkit,' we can say it together
But only if you let a white girl say 'nikka'"

During his 2018 Hangout Music Festival performance, Kendrick brought a white fan onstage to rap his 2012 track “m.A.A.d City” with him. The fan proceeded to rap Kendrick’s lyrics verbatim, meaning they used the N-word multiple times. Kendrick cut the fan off, stating “You gotta bleep one single word”.
 

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Objectively speaking, this album is way too dense (which I love, my favorite Kendrick album was TPAB), so its far too early to call it a classic. You really need to sit with it over time to get it a fair review. You can not like the music, but calling this music trash like some people are doing is just categorically wrong, there's just way to much substance here and high production values to call this mid or trash. I think its fair to be disappointed if you were expecting something more commercial like DAMN versus another left field deep artistic album like TPAB, but calling this trash is crazy, this is clearly one of the best albums that released this year.

Some first impressions from me though after a couple spins, and this is purely my opinion now. Not a fan of some of the topics Kendrick was speaking on, and there are other topics where Kendrick comes off too preachy and self righteous, but songs like 'Mother I Sober' and 'We Cry Together' (really similar to 'Circles' by Game and Q-Tip off Doc 2) are masterpieces, and cmon he got Blxst, Yak, and Tony Starks on this album haha all of them killed it. I feel like Kendrick is relying too much on spoken word poetry and melodies instead of giving us raw verses full of bars on this album too, and I'm personally not a fan of that direction, even though its probably better for him as someone whos a true artist and not just a rapper. There's a lot of musical elements that hipster cacs and critics love all throughout this album like some of the cac hooks (which I'm sure was intentional to give this album more mainstream appeal provided how heavy the subject matter in some of these songs are), skits / interludes, beat switches, and all of the layered instrumentation in the production. But theres so much content here that even if you dont like some of it, you'll find songs that you do like, which is the good thing about long/double albums. I think most people who are disappointed by this album wanted an album full of 'N95's and 'Silent Hill's and I dont blame them cause Kendrick is fire when he gets in those bags haha.

I might sound like Im hating but Im definitely going to sit with this album a lot more to fully digest it, Kendrick is covering so many topics on this album to take it all in so early, but I dont see myself it ranking higher than Ransom's album personally when were talking albums that dropped this year. Nas is coming too. I'm just not a fan of the musical direction of this album, but I appreciate the substance / content.
 
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When was the last time people even cared enough to compare disc 1 vs disc 2 for an album?

This is honestly the first time in a long ass time anybody cared enough not to throw away an album away after the first disc and consider the 2nd disc a gimmick.

Not counting Beyonce, the last time I remember that is the All Eyez On Me, Life After Death, The Art of War, Wu-Tang Forever, etc. era.

The fact that many people are having different favorite songs means there are quite a number of "grow on you" songs on here. That tends to age albums extremely well.

Again, even after the initial hit wave is over, this album is going to age like GKMC over time. Many albums today won't. Not knocking them because they're still enjoyable, but they ain't built the same.
People just did it with the Yo gotti album
 

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Hmmmm might be his most creative joint, but the least entertaining. Seemed like breh was stuck on either being a rapper or trying to mimic Stevie Wonder (Mirror is still dope though) The Dope factor has gotten worst with each album. Breh still has two classics though imo. To me Kendrick reached back the most to Section 80 with this release, i just wish he kept it consistent.

And Some of yall cats need to re-evaluate what bars are considering what yall be criticizing in other threads lol

Too bad I cant use smilies to accentaute some of my points, smh.

5 or so tracks needed to be trimmed off

Best tracks imo

N95
Die Hard
We Cry Together
Silent Hill
Savior
Mirror

Its alright/solid. Not even close to album of the year.


Spot on
 
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