Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (Discussion Thread)

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Who is currently in your top 5 and who are you taking off in favor of Kendrick?

This is an interesting question that I'm stumped on. Not that I'd put Kdot in my top 5 right now but moreso thinking about how top 5s are created and whether it's wrong to dismiss newer rappers. If you go back to 2001 you could have easily argued Nas and Jay deserved spots in the top 10. Both were less than a decade removed from their debut albums. There were certainly people back then who would have said nah it's Rakim/KRS/Kane/LL/etc but plenty of folks were flexible enough to give Nas and Jay their props. Hell Biggie too. Think about Biggie in 2001...died 4 years previous, two albums, yet was just as revered then as he is now.

Point being Kendrick is now a decade removed from his (major label) debut. As are Drake and Cole. So if we could determine whether Jay and Nas deserved it less than a decade after their debuts, surely we can discuss it for them. Just an interesting thing to think about.

I haven't really thought about my GOAT list in ages. My list of favorites seems more concrete: Nas, Ghostface, DOOM, Pac, Prodigy. Nas would be #1 on my GOAT list too but I dunno who the other 4 would be.
 
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This is an interesting question that I'm stumped on. Not that I'd put Kdot in my top 5 right now but moreso thinking about how top 5s are created and whether it's wrong to dismiss newer rappers. If you go back to 2001 you could have easily argued Nas and Jay deserved spots in the top 10. Both were less than a decade removed from their debut albums. There were certainly people back then who would have said nah it's Rakim/KRS/Kane/LL/etc but plenty of folks were flexible enough to give Nas and Jay their props. Hell Biggie too. Think about Biggie in 2001...died 4 years previous, two albums, yet was just as revered then as he is now.

Point being Kendrick is now a decade removed from his (major label) debut. As are Drake and Cole. So if we could determine whether Jay and Nas deserved it less than a decade after their debuts, surely we can discuss it for them. Just an interesting thing to think about.

I haven't really thought about my GOAT list in ages. My list of favorites seems more concrete: Nas, Ghostface, DOOM, Pac, Prodigy. Nas would be #1 on my GOAT list too but I dunno who the other 4 would be.


1). Nas
2). Jay-Z
3). Common
4). Ghostface Killah
5). Black Thought


Thats my permanent top 5 going back to 2006.
 

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This is an interesting question that I'm stumped on. Not that I'd put Kdot in my top 5 right now but moreso thinking about how top 5s are created and whether it's wrong to dismiss newer rappers. If you go back to 2001 you could have easily argued Nas and Jay deserved spots in the top 10. Both were less than a decade removed from their debut albums. There were certainly people back then who would have said nah it's Rakim/KRS/Kane/LL/etc but plenty of folks were flexible enough to give Nas and Jay their props. Hell Biggie too. Think about Biggie in 2001...died 4 years previous, two albums, yet was just as revered then as he is now.

Point being Kendrick is now a decade removed from his (major label) debut. As are Drake and Cole. So if we could determine whether Jay and Nas deserved it less than a decade after their debuts, surely we can discuss it for them. Just an interesting thing to think about.

I haven't really thought about my GOAT list in ages. My list of favorites seems more concrete: Nas, Ghostface, DOOM, Pac, Prodigy. Nas would be #1 on my GOAT list too but I dunno who the other 4 would be.

It’s really hard ranking.

Nas, Jay, Scarface, Common, Ghostface are my non-movable top 5. Their careers have span 4 decades and they’ve produced at a high level. You can’t compare Kendrick’s 10 year 4 albums to that. Jay dropped every year and had bangers every year and is still relevant. Nas did the same and has produced the best albums for the past couple of years.

skill wise Lupe, Black Thought, Royce, Elzhi, are just the best ever. Including Nas. There are rappers that are better rappers than kendrick but he is a better artist than A LOT.

idk man I’ll have to really think about his positioning
 
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It's been #1 on the spotify chart since it came out so I'd say it'll chart pretty high. Given the performance they gotta put it on the album for the streams.


If he debuts at number 1 next week with a fukking HEART installment then the year is his. PERIOD.


Also it would be the most socially conscious rap song to hit number 1 since This Is America in 2018. Gambino didn’t even put that muthafukka on an album either :wow:
 

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If he debuts at number 1 next week with a fukking HEART installment then the year is his. PERIOD.


Also it would be the most socially conscious rap song to hit number 1 since This Is America in 2018. Gambino didn’t even put that muthafukka on an album either :wow:

Breh this is a great point. This Is America is a perfect comparison especially with the video dominating the conversation.
 

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How is not stickied but that wack cracka Harlow been stickied over a week? :stopitslime:

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Because it isn't out yet. If I'm not mistaken, the albums don't get stickied until the whole album is available officially or via a leak.
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Makes sense.
 
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