Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers (Discussion Thread)

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U see? Also. Friday Night Lights will forever be Cole’s first album to me. Sideline Story wasn’t even supposed to be what it was.


Oh yea its well documented what went down with Sideline Story and he had to basically gut the album and release Friday Night Lights to maintain momentum. Sucks too because if the label would have trusted him and the fanbase he’d built he was always pretty much GUARANTEED not to flop. FNL mixed with the best 3-4 cuts from Sideline Story would have been a classic.


I’ve actually written on here before how out of Kendrick, Drake, and Cole. Kendrick was the only one allowed to do what he wanted and release his debut album as intended, and he was the first one of the trio to get a classic album because of it. The labels didn’t understand at the time that So Far Gone & The Warm Up WERE Drake and Cole’s debut albums. They’d already hit, the fans were already willing and waiting to support. I’ve always said that the initial strategy of putting Cole on tour for two years was GENIUS because it helped gain him an international fanbase that loves him and will support him pretty much for life because they watched him grow as a artist and man. Cole NEVER needed a “hit” single. He was primed to blow.




Anyways I don’t give a fukk what ANYBODY says about 4YEO lol I fukking love that album personally. I thought he pulled off the concept pretty flawlessly and though it wasn’t as cinematic as GKMC or poetic as TPAB but it felt in a lot of ways more PERSONAL than both of those albums.
 
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Oh yea its well documented what went down with Sideline Story and he had to basically gut the album and release Friday Night Lights to maintain momentum. Sucks too because if the label would have trusted him and the fanbase he’d built he was always pretty much GUARANTEED not to flop. FNL mixed with the best 3-4 cuts from Sideline Story would have been a classic.


I’ve actually written on here before how out of Kendrick, Drake, and Cole. Kendrick was the only one allowed to do what he wanted and release his debut album as intended, and he was the first one of the trio to get a classic album because of it. The labels didn’t understand at the time that So Far Gone & The Warm Up WERE Drake and Cole’s debut albums. They’d already hit, the fans were already willing and waiting to support. I’ve always said that the initial strategy of putting Cole on tour for two years was GENIUS because it helped gain him an international fanbase that loves him and will support him pretty much for life because they watched him grow as a artist and man. Cole NEVER needed a “hit” single. He was primed to blow.




Anyways I don’t give a fukk what ANYBODY says about 4YEO lol I fukking love that album personally. I thought he pulled off the concept pretty flawlessly and though it wasn’t as cinematic as GKMC or poetic as TPAB it felt in a lot of ways more PERSONAL than both of those albums.
Exactly. And another thing that’s missing is this. Section 80 WAS Kendrick’s debut album. NOT GKMC. He actually marketed it as an album as well. He didn’t call it a mixtape or none of that shyt. So when GKMC came out and they tried to retroactively dismiss Section 80 it was weird as fukk.
 
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Exactly. And another thing that’s missing is this. Section 80 WAS Kendrick’s debut album. NOT GKMC. He actually marketed it as an album as well. He didn’t call it a mixtape or none of that shyt. So when GKMC came out and they tried to retroactively dismiss Section 80 it was weird as fukk.




GKMC is his “Major Label” debut so I can understand why they’d want to market it as such and kind of put Section 80 to the side.


Your right of course, Section 80 is considered an album but it was independent straight through TDE.


Just like how So Far Gone was repackaged and sold commercially but Thank Me Later is considered his “Major Label”
Debut.
 

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GKMC is his “Major Label” debut so I can understand why they’d want to market it as such and kind of put Section 80 to the side.


Your right of course, Section 80 is considered an album but it was independent straight through TDE.


Just like how So Far Gone was repackaged and sold commercially but Thank Me Later is considered his “Major Label”
Debut.
The thing with So Far Gone tho is it had joints that were not original beats. Section 80 was literally marketed as an album when it released. DEHH even reviewed it.
 

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Oh yea its well documented what went down with Sideline Story and he had to basically gut the album and release Friday Night Lights to maintain momentum. Sucks too because if the label would have trusted him and the fanbase he’d built he was always pretty much GUARANTEED not to flop. FNL mixed with the best 3-4 cuts from Sideline Story would have been a classic.


I’ve actually written on here before how out of Kendrick, Drake, and Cole. Kendrick was the only one allowed to do what he wanted and release his debut album as intended, and he was the first one of the trio to get a classic album because of it. The labels didn’t understand at the time that So Far Gone & The Warm Up WERE Drake and Cole’s debut albums. They’d already hit, the fans were already willing and waiting to support. I’ve always said that the initial strategy of putting Cole on tour for two years was GENIUS because it helped gain him an international fanbase that loves him and will support him pretty much for life because they watched him grow as a artist and man. Cole NEVER needed a “hit” single. He was primed to blow.




Anyways I don’t give a fukk what ANYBODY says about 4YEO lol I fukking love that album personally. I thought he pulled off the concept pretty flawlessly and though it wasn’t as cinematic as GKMC or poetic as TPAB but it felt in a lot of ways more PERSONAL than both of those albums.

Replying to the bolded and underline statement. I totally agree with this statement. In fact, I believe this is what makes Lupe a tad bit jealous of K Dot only because this was the same way he was coming into the industry but due to Chilly getting all that time it didn’t come to fruition.

There is no way Lupe goes through all that turmoil with the Lasers album if Chilly was home.
 
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Ok psychoanalysis people. What all this means? Got a gun to protect his fam. Crown of thorns (type of messiah),wife, kids (these children are obviously a priority. I assuming something used to cover where those spots are at (i.e. pictures)? It's obviously an apartment with that heater
 
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