Kendrick Lamar & Baby Keem - The Hillbillies (Official Video)

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Baby Keem is ass not to mention ugly af.
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I agree I don't think that's about Kendrick but that sentiment mirrors something Cole said after Control, and what Kendrick basically said on Crown off the new album. The idea that spending all your time fighting over who is the best, who is the king, who is the GOAT etc can take you out of the moment and ruin music for you. To me those lines are clear Kanye shots but who knows.

People who know (Boi-1da, Cardo, etc) say him and Kendrick are cool, and Drake went to Kendrick's Toronto show. I think it's always gonna be competition since they are clearly the two guys of their era...but we'll never see an actual battle. It's too late at this point. I do find it interesting that Drake and Cole are very buddy buddy publicly, whereas you don't see Kendrick with anyone. He's had a close relationship with Cole in the past, dunno if they're still close. I assume so but then again he seems pretty detached from everyone except his collaborators. Which also goes back to the "alone" and competition thing, I guess. Ironically I'm saying this in reaction to a vid of him clowning around with Tyler, who he's close to.


But Drake of ALL muthafukkas can’t preach or send shots at anybody about competition. Drake been calling himself the best since Take Care. This despite the ghostwriting he’s still saying he’s the best of his generation. Drake ain’t on no peace shyt unless there’s something he can gain from association or unless your under his unbrella

Drake and Cole came in the game together, they’re both biracial, both had daddy issues growing up, and both were under the tutelage of more famous and accomplished rappers at one point. They also both blew up off the mixtape/blog era so it stands to reason they’d be cool with each other. Kendrick is from Compton which is a different world than both of them so it stands he’d be a bit removed from both of them.

I still stand by the opinion none of the three of them are thinking about one another nearly as much as we think they do. They all got kids, families, and their own built in corners of the rap world. Kendrick with PGLang, Cole with Dreamville, and Drake with OVO. If Kendrick and Drake were going to battle it would’ve been 2014-16 when Kendrick was chomping at the BIT and sending unambiguous shots directly at Drake and Drake ain’t want it. J.Cole BEEN saying he’s the best and he’s ready to go at anybody who wants it and neither Drake nor Kendrick stepped to him. I think at this point the three of them are happy having dedicated fanbases who will duke it out in their behalfs lol
 

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But Drake of ALL muthafukkas can’t preach or send shots at anybody about competition. Drake been calling himself the best since Take Care. This despite the ghostwriting he’s still saying he’s the best of his generation. Drake ain’t on no peace shyt unless there’s something he can gain from association or unless your under his unbrella

Drake and Cole came in the game together, they’re both biracial, both had daddy issues growing up, and both were under the tutelage of more famous and accomplished rappers at one point. They also both blew up off the mixtape/blog era so it stands to reason they’d be cool with each other. Kendrick is from Compton which is a different world than both of them so it stands he’d be a bit removed from both of them.

I still stand by the opinion none of the three of them are thinking about one another nearly as much as we think they do. They all got kids, families, and their own built in corners of the rap world. Kendrick with PGLang, Cole with Dreamville, and Drake with OVO. If Kendrick and Drake were going to battle it would’ve been 2014-16 when Kendrick was chomping at the BIT and sending unambiguous shots directly at Drake and Drake ain’t want it. J.Cole BEEN saying he’s the best and he’s ready to go at anybody who wants it and neither Drake nor Kendrick stepped to him. I think at this point the three of them are happy having dedicated fanbases who will duke it out in their behalfs lol

Yea that's why it doesn't fully fit as a Kendrick diss/comment but works perfect for Kanye.

Cole and Kendrick came up together closer than Cole and Drake though. At one point Cole wanted to sign Kendrick, they did shows together and recorded an album. I remember even back with TPAB, Cole saying he felt a conversation he had with Kendrick may have inspired "i" as a single selection. So they been cool from jump. But over the last 5 plus years they've been way more "outside" than Kendrick so seeing them together isn't a surprise anymore. Whereas I doubt we see Kendrick and Drake dapping it up publicly anytime soon lol.

I def agree Drake been saying he's the best and I'd buy that he truly believes that. The stuff he values as a rapper (club presence, hits, constantly being on the hottest tracks via remixes, etc) is shyt that Kendrick and Cole clearly don't value much, so in Drake's mind he's way ahead of them. He was prob concerned in 2017 when Kendrick came out and effortlessly did all that shyt (club, hits, arena tour, etc) tho. That's the funny thing about this Keem track tho. Him calling it a dub of Sticky is exactly the type of shyt Drake does and fukks with. I'm not gonna say they're trolling him but it's pretty on the nose.
 

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This is... not good, but I prefer this direction for Kenny over that Mr. Morale bullshyt :scust:
If the production was actually good this could have been cool. You'd think the guy would have access to some better beats than this trash. shyt sounds horrible.
 

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At first I wiuld agree with you however at the end of sticky Drake says this

When everything is put to rest
And everybody takes a breath
And everything gets addressed
It's you alone with your regrets
All that pumpin' up your chest
All that talk about the best
You know how sticky it gets

It's a reach but it gives a little credence to the rivalry. I won't be surprised if they're both at Tyler's festival
Y’all really be reaching to the heavens :laff:
 

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Just because it doesn't resonate with you doesn't mean it's fake deep or preachy

The more you live life, the more you'll need music like that. Can't use fun to cope with your troubles all the time

The problem isn't that it doesn't resonate lol. Kendrick has shyt for anyone to relate to.

There isnt even a problem lol. Its just corny when artists start feeling themselves too much and act like their some gift to humanity and how they have some moral obligation to send society a message in their music. Like you dont gotta pop out with a diamond crown of thorns or send some weird fake deep lying ass tweet about how youve gone years without a cellphone. We already fukk with you. You see this weird shyt in Frank Ocean, Andre 3000, Jay Elec, etc etc.

Kendrick covered a lot of the same topics he covered on Big Steppers before, and in arguably a much more natural and genuine expression. Like songs like Momma, Mortal Man, FEEL, etc. He's also covered much more complex feelings and nuanced topics before on songs like Institutionalized and How Much A Dollar Cost. Big Steppers feels much more artificial, forced and surface level - and thats where the preachy and fake deep criticism comes from for me, cause you go through the album and its like "oh heres the song about father issues", "here's the song about sobriety", "heres the song about society collapsing", "here's the song about x and y topics", and none of these topics hes approaching with the same depth he did on TPAB. Cole kinda did this shyt his entire career, but it was especially bad around KOD where he approached the music in the album with the intention of sending a message, instead of the intention of just expressing himself and making good music. Same shyt where you go through KOD and its like "heres the song about cheating", "heres the song about addiction", "heres the song about x and y topics".

We gotta be a little easy with the fake deep narrative.

He has plenty songs that are just entertainment but music isn’t just meant to be brainless fun. it’s supposed to be thought provoking, it’s literally art.

If every painting was just a regular but really detailed and cinematic close up shot of someone’s face it wouldn’t be special, unique or conversational. Let the man have that balance of bringing in substance instead of just scoffing at it as preachy.

Bro went through real shyt in his personal life, conveyed it in music, that shouldn’t be held against him.

I think the artistry becomes compromised once it becomes about sending some grand message to society instead of just conveying feelings and expression in a creative way. Like I'm saying in this post above, Kendrick has done all this before, arguably much better, without the diamond crown of thorns and cryptic tweets. And that's because he clearly became big headed and thinks hes some messiah when hes just another artist.
 

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Its just corny when artists start feeling themselves too much and act like their some gift to humanity and how they have some moral obligation to send society a message in their music

Bro what do you think Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers is about??

Listen to Crown, Mother Sober and Mirror. He literally made the album to renounce that role and perception. Kendrick never acted or chose to be a "gift to humanity". That was what fans expected from him since TPAB
 

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Bro what do you think Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers is about??

Listen to Crown, Mother Sober and Mirror. He literally made the album to renounce that role and perception. Kendrick never acted or chose to be a "gift to humanity". That was what fans expected from him since TPAB

On the album he's saying hes not our savior, but then hes popping out in Paris with a diamond crown of thorns and big robes lmao
 

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On the album he's saying hes not our savior, but then hes popping out in Paris with a diamond crown of thorns and big robes lmao
It's a symbol. That's why it's on the album cover

I felt the same way at first. But eventually I got the message. He isn't wearing the crown anymore. He hasn't since that overseas modeling show
 
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