Kawhi Leonard has 13,006 career points

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Chauncey Billups because Kobe can't make huge baskets in the Finals
lol.. Im not going down that rabbit hole. Im on board with Chauncey for the sake of argument.

and my argument is can we really say he a HOF or top 75 like Mastermind stated. I can name a boat load of dudes who would fill a role Kawhi has
 

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He's a hall of famer right now.....right?
He'll get in cause of accolades. 2 time champ...2 time finals mvp...2 time DPOY

But as far as counting stats go? Nope. I'd be shocked if he gets to 20k points scored. Every knee or leg injury he has had lately has cost him either parts of a season or the whole season
 

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lol.. Im not going down that rabbit hole. Im on board with Chauncey for the sake of argument.

and my argument is can we really say he a HOF or top 75 like Mastermind stated. I can name a boat load of dudes who would fill a role Kawhi has

Not many could play both ways like Kawhi in his prime
 

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Reggie in the hall with no rings, 5 all stars, 3x 3rd team all nba

Kawhi got 2 rings, 2 final mvps, 2 dpoy, 3x all nba first team, top 75

he's in 1st ballot
take away his Spurs accomplishments. He wasnt even the focal point player on those squads.

and when I say that, The Heat didnt concentrate on stopping Kawhi. You had Duncan, Parker and Ginobli who was more of a focal point than Kawhi

now what is he??
 

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take away his Spurs accomplishments. He wasnt even the focal point player on those squads.

and when I say that, The Heat didnt concentrate on stopping Kawhi. You had Duncan, Parker and Ginobli who was more of a focal point than Kawhi

now what is he??
nobody's considering all that when they vote on the hall....them accolades accolading :manny:

plenty players in the hall for less
 

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lol...

top 75 is a so in the moment ass accomplishment. Dude hasnt even stopped playing ball yet. its egregious

Question, if you started a team right now with lets say 2 stars on it already. lets say Kobe and Shaq.

Would you add Kawhi or Lamar Odom as your 3? How bout Rip Hamilton or Kawhi? Im just throwing out random names that have a chip
Top 75 is about his standing all time. :what:
 

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When was peak Kawhi? How was he comparable to MJ outside of shooting fadeways. And that wasnt even peak MJ. Dude was playing like 96-98 Mike. He aint fukkin with late 80s-early 90s Mike. And even if he was you gotta do it over time. The year after the MJ comparisons began he blew a 3-1 lead perfectly healthy in a controlled environment and aint been healthy since. So yeah it was wild breh :pachaha:
Much better shooter, a comparable midrange game and a better defender.
 

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Yeah that new MJ talk a few years ago was wild indeed.
Bit of derail but of all the MJ clones (excluding Kobe) I think Kawhi is at the top of the list. Think perhaps ironically Shai could surpass him.

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Much better shooter, a comparable midrange game and a better defender.
Better finisher too. We only have the data for 1996-97 and 97-98, but MJ shot 53% and 62% at the rim his last 2 years with the bulls. Leonard is consistently over 70% in recent years. Shame the league didn’t track that sort of thing until that recently. Would’ve been nice to have given that so few people valued the 3 back then :martin:
 
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