Kanye West vs K-Rino, who got the better discography? whos the better artist?

[The Ruler 09]

If someone doesn't like K-Rino's music, it's hard to take their opinion on rap seriously.

I guess people gonna have tastes and shyt, BUT if someone can't acknowledge the HIGH level of lyricism and ARTISTRY and MC'in ability I agree. No-one I know in real life thinks K-Rino isn't incredible though, literally no-one, and I know a lot of people.

 

[tysigna]

Exactly what I'm talking about. If this was an a Capella it would be dope, as a song it's trash

It's not true, he has been dropping incredible songs since day 1.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Exactly what I'm talking about. If this was an a Capella it would be dope, as a song it's trash

Debate it with me instead lol.

Why is this song trash?



It's always hard to put down a song of an artist with so much work. But is this TRASH to you? Seriously?

 

[MaNu Minu]

Debate it with me instead lol.

Why is this song trash?



It's always hard to put down a song of an artist with so much work. But is this TRASH to you? Seriously?

yes, it sounds generic to me

 

[QamYasharahla]

I guess people gonna have tastes and shyt, BUT if someone can't acknowledge the HIGH level of lyricism and ARTISTRY and MC'in ability I agree. No-one I know in real life thinks K-Rino isn't incredible though, literally no-one, and I know a lot of people.

True, I can understand him not being everyone's cup o tea, but the fact that people act like he's wack because he's not making dumbass videos and rapping like the Migos or Drake is laughable. It is what it is though.

 

[Insensitive]

I like Kanye's music more but if the two had to get on
a track and trade bars. K-Rino would eat him.
@The Ruler 09

 

[The Ruler 09]

I've heard a lot of his songs, I've known about him well before I even seen you or anyone here post about him. I mentioned him during the SOHH days

He can rhyme but his music stinks. His beat selection is terrible, he can't make a good chorus, his flow isn't anything special, and his subject matter is diverse but elementary and if you peel back the lyrics he isn't saying much when he tries to get "deep". His main talent is just rapping about how good he raps which is the least compelling style of rap to hear for a long period of time. It's good for a song or two but if those are the only type of songs you can make that I like, then there's an issue

I've heard every album. Cool, yeah I've known about him over a decade.

Beats is subjective... this was dope to me beat wise...



He can make good chorus', what is a good chorus to you?. His flow is incredible, have you heard him switch up the flows?. His subject matter is far from elementary, how so?. Really? Wow lol. Mm, this is so off its's confusing lol. My favourite tracks from him are the emotional tracks. What about his concept tracks or storytelling tracks? He's made all types of tracks, to girl tracks, to political tracks, a vast array. I'm not sure how much you've really heard bro, due to the assessment. Have you just heard some songs? I'm not saying K-Rino is the PERFECT artist, he has some albums which are flawed and some songs which are flawed. But he has numerous incredible songs. It doesn't sound like you have a full grasp, he also had stylistic differences from his early work to his latter work. I guess it may come down to taste and we may agree to disagree , at least you ain't been a childish bytch about it lol.



But the songs touch me hugely, and the artistry, lyricism and many other aspects should be respected even if don't like the music. But personally I love the music. Life enhancing.

 

[Jack Don the G]

I show anyone love if deserving. The difference there though is K-Rino doesn't want to make songs like Kanye. Also Kanye couldn't make the songs K-Rino does because despite using ghostwriters he wouldn't be able to deliver the songs effectively. He doesn't have the MC ability to do so. Also, if he NEEDS ghostwriters that is another discredit to him. If K-Rino was in a position to he could make hit records, but he chose not to sell out (despite offers actually), by the way, I'm not saying everyone who chooses that path is a sell out, but it is through choice, it is similar to Immortal Technique, he even had Interscope offers but he said no. I feel it does, I feel in most cases it is actually, some will be sincere. I have actually done study on this matter and have a great deal of expertise in this area. I disagree with that strongly, but as you said K-Rino perfected his lyrical ability, but he also is an incredible ARTIST, he has made music that resonates with people on a MUCH deeper level than Kanye can, trust me on that 1. I've seen it. I disagree with that too, I don't think you do. Honestly speaking, may I ask how much of K-Rino you have heard?. To elaborate on my point, his song Amesia I played to someone who lost their memory, I can''t describe to you how deeply she resonated with that. It helped her to rap again and learn things and she related to the situation hugely. If you hear a track like You Never Know how that deals with death of a loved 1, I could go on and on. That is artistry at the highest level. There's countless examples, K-Rino has made SONGS that have genuinely helped people through their lives and brought out huge emotions and feelings.. The fact he is not a mainstream artist is not a minus to his name, not everyone wnats to be that, particularly if you have to compromise your artistic integrity and personal integrity to get there. That infact makes his music realer, it's unadulterated.

Im not saying people cant be touched by K-rinos music. And I know K-rino goes deeper into subjects then Kanye, and talk about stuff Kanye never talked about. But does that make you a better artist? is a song about love, heartbreak or the struggle of everyday worth less compared to for example the brainwashing of the western world?

Pick one of the following songs: All falls down, spaceships and Never let you down. And I promise you that that song alone have touched more people then all the people in total that have been tuched by K-rinos songs combined. And who are YOU to judge if those people are touched on the same level as K-rinos fans? Do you have a super vision that can scan all the kanye west fans and say if the are deeply emotional touched or not?

And this brings me to the next subject.

Dont you want as many people as possible to hear your music, your message? Making hit records is not a question about selling out IMO. Its about being heard. And dont call Kanye a sell out. He brought soul sampling back during the age of gangster rap ffs. + he made Yeesuz for christ sake. If thats selling out I dont know what that term means any more.

Im sure K-rino would love to be able to make music that more people would listen to. But he knows his lane. And thats great! Some artists should stick to what they do best.

Even if I hate both 808 & heartbreaks and Yeezus I think its cool Kanye tries out new stuff and are not afraid of force himself out of his own made lane and the lane people wants him to be in. So trying to big up K-rinos artistic integrity when he is doing kind of the same stuff over and over again compared to Kanye who dont give a fukk about what people and music companies think.

 

[The Ruler 09]

In regards to flows, K-Rino merked this first verse...

 

[MaNu Minu]

rapping fast =/= good flow

its all about the nature of the sentences, the levels of rhythms (its very technical and can be analyzed), the rhymes, and other few things

 

[Streetcar]

The Ruler still obsessed with Ye.

 

[The Ruler 09]

Im not saying people cant be touched by K-rinos music. And I know K-rino goes deeper into subjects then Kanye, and talk about stuff Kanye never talked about. But does that make you a better artist? is a song about love, heartbreak or the struggle of everyday worth less compared to for example the brainwashing of the western world?

Pick one of the following songs: All falls down, spaceships and Never let you down. And I promise you that that song alone have touched more people then all the people in total that have been tuched by K-rinos songs combined. And who are YOU to judge if those people are touched on the same level as K-rinos fans? Do you have a super vision that can scan all the kanye west fans and say if the are deeply emotional touched or not?

And this brings me to the next subject.

Dont you want as many people as possible to hear your music, your message? Making hit records is not a question about selling out IMO. Its about being heard. And dont call Kanye a sell out. He brought soul sampling back during the age of gangster rap ffs. + he made Yeesuz for christ sake. If thats selling out I dont know what that term means any more.

Im sure K-rino would love to be able to make music that more people would listen to. But he knows his lane. And thats great! Some artists should stick to what they do best.

Even if I hate both 808 & heartbreaks and Yeezus I think its cool Kanye tries out new stuff and are not afraid of force himself out of his own made lane and the lane people wants him to be in. So trying to big up K-rinos artistic integrity when he is doing kind of the same stuff over and over again compared to Kanye who dont give a fukk about what people and music companies think.

His execution of it makes him a better artist yes. K-Rino has numerous songs about the struggle, he has songs about love and heartbreak too. He has a song called Pain and Betrayal lol. It sounds like you have a very limited idea of what K-Rino talks about. I would be willing to show you what I mean but no point if it's futile, but he goes WAY WAY WAY deeper than that.

It isn't about numbers, because it's a different playing field, that is not the correct way to analyse with this comparison, it's highly illogical to do so. I am the perfect person to judge actually, there's Kanye songs I fukk with highly, I like some of Kanye's work, and i've heard everything from both, and I'm objective, you probably can't get a better person to judge as the honesty and realness is impeccable. I've told people I know I don't like a certain song of theirs lol.

I feel like your arguments are quite flawded bro and a bit slanted. No, you don't at the expense of your integrity. "I'd rather have 10 thousand true followers behind me , than 1 million of your fake fanatics behind me" - the great KRS-One. If you have to get fukked in your ass for people for more people to hear your music do you do it? Or sell out your manhood? Not me, not for 100 billion. I can't do that and won't do that. You have to have principles and integrity in life.

The last point is silly, he's not doing the same stuff, he's taking artistic chances on every single album, merely on a vastly higher level than Kanye artistically.

 

[The Ruler 09]

rapping fast =/= good flow

its all about the nature of the sentences, the levels of rhythms (its very technical and can be analyzed), the rhymes, and other few things

Dear dear.

Let me tell you what it's about to me.

Dope effective lyrics, songs that can touch you, creativity, concepts, flows, subject matter, stories, positivity and upliftment, in all these areas K-Rino wins.

 

[The Ruler 09]

The Ruler still obsessed with Ye.

Didn't make the thread but ok lol.

 

[The Ruler 09]

I think K-Rino is TOO great that it overwhelms some people, they just can't handle it.