Also, I don't think Eminem influenced as many artists after him, or even with him, as Kanye did. Most of Eminem's huge success is within a vacuum, and maybe D12/Obie Trice, but they haven't become stars or made impacts. Kanye made a big impact as a solo artist, as a producer, and as inspiration for artist to come afterward. You can see Tyler The Creator as lineage of Em, but I can't think of anyone else really (though I may be missing some people)
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Also, I don't think Eminem influenced as many artists after him, or even with him, as Kanye did. Most of Eminem's huge success is within a vacuum, and maybe D12/Obie Trice, but they haven't become stars or made impacts. Kanye made a big impact as a solo artist, as a producer, and as inspiration for artist to come afterward. You can see Tyler The Creator as lineage of Em, but I can't think of anyone else really (though I may be missing some people)
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At one point this nikka was on fire... then somewhere around the Graduation album he fell off hard and became a stone cold fakket. Nah, I cant agree with this thread. Such a shame, the nikka was headed towards greatness 
Nah too many nikkas id rather hear rap than Kanye....id put Jeezy,TI,Plies,Wayne, ahead of em.
I can only champion his production. When it comes to rap, i think of him as a pop star/icon, like a dre or diddy. Great personality for a ghost writer to use.
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OP is right.
Ye has been the best artist in Hip Hop for a decade. He's not the best rapper tho. Let's not get crazy.
Ye has been the best artist in Hip Hop for a decade. He's not the best rapper tho. Let's not get crazy.
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difference is nobody wants to listen to an album full of Diddy or Dre.
People always bring up the ghostwriter thing, but Dre and Diddy have ghostwriters and their personal work is still horrible.
Kanye pretty much birthed this whole generation...whether you like it or not, you have to give dude his props.
He struck a cord w/ the present generation like no other.
yea hes a great icon, trend setter, all of that but as a rapper, thats where it stops, IMO.
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yea hes a great icon, trend setter, all of that but as a rapper, thats where it stops, IMO.
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as a lyricist he is underrated but i agree he ain't the best technically as mc in terms of rhyme schemes etc.
You fell down the staircase with that last step.
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at people acting like what the OP said was crazyjilla82
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I dont think anyone is saying he's the best rapper...just that his music is top notch.yea hes a great icon, trend setter, all of that but as a rapper, thats where it stops, IMO.
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I put him in the same category of cats like DJ Quik and Devin the Dude....they arent the best rappers, but they know how to make great music.
I'd argue Cee-Lo Green. Cee Lo Green Is... The Soul Machine dropped in '04. It featured Cee Lo rapping, singing, doing poetry, and producing. In '06, Gnarls Barkley dropped St. Elsewhere and that was Cee Lo mostly singing. Same goes for Gnarls Barkley's Odd Couple. Then in 2010, Cee-Lo released the Stray Bullets mixtape, which again featured him mostly singing as was Lady Killer, which came out the same year. The only real blemish on his catalog is the Goodie Mob album that dropped last year.
Now, Cee Lo hasn't been as big commercially, but he artistically, it's hard not to recognize the work that Cee Lo has put in. He's better than Kanye in every category except maybe producing. Lyrically, Cee Lo goes in even when he's singing.
Now, Cee Lo hasn't been as big commercially, but he artistically, it's hard not to recognize the work that Cee Lo has put in. He's better than Kanye in every category except maybe producing. Lyrically, Cee Lo goes in even when he's singing.