So in other words, what bothsiders have been saying works and there's the possibility of actually getting something for the vote, or are you saying we should be giving democrats those votes for free?
Kamala Harris to Democrats: Stop talking about race/identity and focus on offering better policies to Americans
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RickyDiBiase
The Sword of Jesus of Nazareth
ya'll are just like those Bernie Sanders cacs- ya'll really overestimate ya'll impact.
Sane people don’t care about this shyt when you have the opposition using actual Nazi tactics making up shyt about a whole community leaving them vulnerable to nut cases. Trump just recently talked about putting serial numbers on illegal immigratnts. Where have I heard about putting numbers on “undesirables” before? And you would be a fool to think it stops there given history.
skirting means to go around something because it's dangerous. saying she wants to stop talking about her racial identity connotes a danger. no one is insinuating its a central theme. if anything the theme proports inclusivity; that can't happen by excluding part of the proponent candidate's identity.
again, if the first black president had to, it would be foolish to think, especially in America, that the second, potential one, wouldnt.
Just like obama had to pick an old white guy to compliment his race and youth, she picked an old white guy to compliment her gender and race. this is how this shyt works and trying to get around that, this late in the game, is fukking dumb
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Its crazy since early this year all they been doing is asking for money instead of actual policy. Isreal got them so they should be goodI don't know who's responsible for DNC outreach campaigns this Election. But every other text or email from them is begging for money. I'm like DAMN didn't she set a record for campaign contributions? Yet she still needs more money?
At least sprinkle in one or two messages about the issues. Instead of just asking for volunteers or money.
Trump Vs. Harris Fundraising Race: Harris Outraises Trump By Nearly $150 Million In August
Trump Vs. Harris Fundraising Race: Harris Takes In $222 Million In September—Far Surpassing Trump
Harris' campaign and affiliated groups have already raised $1 billion since she entered the race.www.forbes.com
Again, the dems are not as serious as we are about this election. shyt Biden won off calling out republicans but we got somewhere like her touting people like Dikk Cheney like that will sway MAGAs to vote for her.
RickyDiBiase
The Sword of Jesus of Nazareth
You're not gonna sway MAGA people that’d be a waste of time
You sway the fence straddlers and the people who voted for The Fanta Fatass once or twice
In theory at least.
Pull Up the Roots
Veteran
This is a weird misinterpretation. Her campaign is seeking to reach a broad coalition, and by focusing on policy issues that matter like healthcare, economic inequality, climate change, housing prices, and childcare, she's addressing concerns that affect people across all backgrounds. When she mentions that her identity isn't a central theme, she's not implying it's 'dangerous' to discuss. She's emphasizing that she doesn't want to be reduced to just her race or gender. Highlighting identity can be an asset, but in an election like this, it's also important not to let it eclipse your policy platform. She's not taking a class reductionist position, and she's not taking one where so-called 'identity politics' is the main driver, and it's for the best.
As for the comparison to Barack Obama, it's 2024. And every candidate's path is different.
it's not being glazed over the question of her race was just the new birther movement distraction tactic. i dunno what it is with people these days and being so easily swayed. mofos seem slower by the decade. shyt was such a simple but effective distraction tactic.
They dont care if something may helps them. They care that it helps them only.
We have white supremacy bubbling at an all-time rate and their preference is politicians drive their campaigns in a ditch promising things they may not even be able to achieve.
She didn't mention her identity isn't a central theme. The article states that the campaign is moving away from her identity being a catalyst to engage with Latino voters, specifically. So not sure where you read she's saying that. She also isn't implying its dangerous, I am. And so is the Politico article by calling it a risk. You keep returning to this idea that race is the basis for her campaign; no one has said that. I am saying that avoiding it is not feasible...because that is a reality of campaigning in 2024. That reality was reflected in both the RNC and DNC. One was overly caucasian skewing and conservative, the other was a liberal tentpole that celebrated its diversity and inclusivity.
Again, it is not feasible to try and circumvent or skirt identity as a Democrat candidate.
since when? Dems have literally been doing this and being critisized for not making Black specific tangibles when the supreme court is shutting them down.
why do y'all always lie and move goal posts. you can find countless posts here saying people don't want tangibles that are not race or ethnicity specific.
Piff Perkins
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She's right and this is what the Coli largely agrees with but she won't get much dap for it.
It's not that she doesn't talk about race or gender. She does, in multiple speeches. But I think she's approaching the issue more like Obama than the Trump/2016 era of identity politics where it's a dominant focus/crutch. Obama's typical approach to race in 07/08 was basically multiethnic "we can acknowledge differences while coming together as Americans to achieve goals and right wrongs." When he talked about race it was due to circumstances forcing him to - Rev Wright, black journalists, etc. Of course none of this impressed republicans, who claim to this day that he was divisive on race and made anti-white statements (lmao).
What she's doing is clearly working. She talks more about women issues because women issues are arguably the most important or second most important issue to the American public (abortion).
It's not that she doesn't talk about race or gender. She does, in multiple speeches. But I think she's approaching the issue more like Obama than the Trump/2016 era of identity politics where it's a dominant focus/crutch. Obama's typical approach to race in 07/08 was basically multiethnic "we can acknowledge differences while coming together as Americans to achieve goals and right wrongs." When he talked about race it was due to circumstances forcing him to - Rev Wright, black journalists, etc. Of course none of this impressed republicans, who claim to this day that he was divisive on race and made anti-white statements (lmao).
What she's doing is clearly working. She talks more about women issues because women issues are arguably the most important or second most important issue to the American public (abortion).
