Kamala Bear (Grrrr) vs. Mother: 2020 VP Debate - Wed, 10/7, 9PM EDT, Salt Lake City

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  • hell yeah.... that fool ain't sick

    Votes: 4 12.1%
  • naw b, he was on the white house balcony feeling like george floyd "i can't breath"...

    Votes: 5 15.2%
  • does it really matter, i'm just here for the fukkery....

    Votes: 11 33.3%
  • kamala got this.....

    Votes: 13 39.4%

  • Total voters
    33
  • Poll closed .

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Some Final Thoughts
  • Kamala was OK, too much of a Cheerleader
  • Pence was winning the debate from controlling the narrative; but he kept over-talking the moderator and then the fly happened.
  • No one will remember what Pence was talking about, because the Fly took the attention
 

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i think the problem with chokehold bans as implemented so far is there are usually exceptions for "when an officer's life is in danger," and the judicial system almost always accepts police accounts.

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so in order for a national ban to be effective it can't have these exceptions. it should definitely happen because there is no legitimate reason for police to do this
I agree.
How Decades Of Bans On Police Chokeholds Have Fallen Short
But an NPR review of bans on neck restraints in some of the nation's largest police departments found them largely ineffective and subject to lax enforcement. And when chokeholds specifically were banned, a variation on the neck restraint was often permitted instead.

:francis:Nah, Cops are gonna cop, and we need a method of effectively holding them accountable.
If it makes people feel better i dont appose it, but it seems more symbolic than anything.
It seems you're moving the goalpost a bit. You initially stated banning choke holds would lead to more police shootings. Which I disagree with.

As initially stated, I believe we should ban choke holds AND hold police officers accountable just like we would anyone else.
 

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Some Final Thoughts
  • Kamala was OK, too much of a Cheerleader
  • Pence was winning the debate from controlling the narrative; but he kept over-talking the moderator and then the fly happened.
  • No one will remember what Pence was talking about, because the Fly took the attention
Pence did a good job controlling the narrative, but we need to remember everyone pretty much agreed that he failed to answer the important questions. Some altogether and others completely dishonestly.
 

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Flipping through TYT and Majority report and they're calling Pence the winner because Kamala was too soft. Going through my timeline I see similar sentiments. Usually I'd agree but they're up like 10 points. Just state the case, protect your personal record, and present Biden as a better choice. She did that imo. Everything else would be if they were running a closer race.

Im a progressive and fukk with bit Majority Report and TYT, but they gotta chill.

You don’t have to kill a fly with a sledgehammer. A fly swat will do. :lolbron:
 

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False. :hubie:

pro-life
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Advocating the legal protection of human embryos and fetuses, especially by favoring the outlawing of abortion on the ground that it is the taking of a human life.

Get the fukk out of here with your passive aggressive bullshyt. They're fukken hypocrites.
 

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It seems you're moving the goalpost a bit. You initially stated banning choke holds would lead to more police shootings. Which I disagree with.
As initially stated, I believe we should ban choke holds AND hold police officers accountable just like we would anyone else.
The good cops(if you believe in those) who wrestle nikkas down may be quicker to shoot if we handicap them in a tussle.
Accountability addresses all of my concerns.

:manny:I said they may...seems symbolic, but go for it. Im not in favor of them. The focus should be accountability which wasnt mentioned nearly much as chokehold bans if at all.
 

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Pence did a good job controlling the narrative, but we need to remember everyone pretty much agreed that he failed to answer the important questions. Some altogether and others completely dishonestly.

I expected to see what pence did aside from speaking over the moderator so much

Hes slick and doesnt stick to the facts :yeshrug:
 
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