Kaepernick has filed a lawsuit against the NFL. Edit: Kaepernick trying to blow the system up.Salute

[Maschine_Man]

He opted out and restructed because if not, the 49ers WERE NOT going to play him. @JLova can shed more light on this if he chooses to do so.

i"m assuming he decided to restructure so he could play and "audition" himself to other teams to prove he still was good enough to play.

To the bolded....really?!?!?!?!?! As a Jags fan i'm assuming you HAVEN'T watched a minute of Blake Bortles this year

Honestly I haven't watched too many jags games...but if you look at that QB situation objectively you would see that they spent a number 3 draft pick on him 3 years ago and teams don't usually give up on a player after 3 years in the league.

And going just off of stats....Bortles actually looks a lot better on paper than Kap does. and that's with only 3 years experience under him.

Not to mention the fact that the Jags have been terrible, and if ppl are giving Kap a pass for playing on a shytty team shouldn't Bortles get one?


basically what I'm saying is before the season started, would kapernick be that big of an upgrade that you move on from your high draft pick? or is it more of a lateral move?

 

[Maschine_Man]

Some people aren't even worth a response. I'd take Kaep off the street with no knowledge of the playbook over Bortles.

So you just throw away 20 Million guaranteed that they signed with Bortles and take Kap?

this is why I find it hard to argue with ppl around here, because they don't look at things objectively.

actually...
Blake Bortles

it looks like if they would have cut him in the off season they would take a 6 million cap hit this year and 19 next year.


For a QB, that has only has 3 MORE total touchdowns (rushing AND passing) in two MORE seasons? Also, Bortles has ALREADY thrown for more yards than Kap has in his whole career

Bortles been on a consistently way shyttier team than kapernick has been on with far worse coaching.

where is his pass?

 

[BXKingPin82]

Yep. Twice

And it's all on tape and record

Whelp!

Open and shut case Johnson!

we can only hope

 

[Flywin Lannister]

Credit to @Skooby



Edit#3

Credit to @tru_m.a.c

Kaepernick hopes to invalidate the CBA through collusion grievance
Posted by Mike Florio on October 15, 2017, 8:35 PM EDT

Free-agent quarterback Colin Kaepernick has filed a grievance against the NFL alleging collusion in relation to his ongoing unemployment. Eventually, we’ll explain what he needs to prove, and what he doesn’t need to prove, in order to show that collusion occurred. For now, let’s focus on what he wants to do.

Per a source with knowledge of the situation, Kaepernick wants to trigger termination of the current Collective Bargaining Agreement.

Article 69, Section 2 of the CBA allows for the agreement to be terminated prematurely in the event of proof of collusion. Under Article 17, Section 16(c) of the CBA, termination can arise from only one incident of collusion involving only one player if there is clear and convincing evidence of a violation.

The ramifications would be enormous, and historical. Kaepernick could give all players a tremendous piece of leverage, moving up the expiration of the contract by more than three years and forcing the owners back to the bargaining table.

Former NFL player Sean Gilbert proposed, in connection with his effort to become the NFLPA’s executive director, the potential termination of the CBA in early 2015, based on collusion arising from the funding rule applicable to guaranteed contracts. Gilbert did not win, and the collusion case was never filed

FINALLY I was hoping and waiting for this. They (owners, c00n Lewis) have made so many incriminating comments publicly. He should win this and get paid AND he will play again. And no CAC can stop this. And let me state again: Kaepernick is our generation´s Muhammad Ali.

Here´s the statement of Colin Kaepernick´s lawyer:


OP @Nerdy black guy could you add this to the original post? It´s really interesting what he writes, specifically about the spectacle the owners made to kneel LIKE KAEPERNICK. It´s a wrap. 2018-2019 Regular Season MVP: Colin Kaepernick. It´s the clearest collusion of powerful white men to block out a black player we have seen in forever. Salute to our hero Kaep. Fukk these CACS.

 

[BXKingPin82]

i aint no law expert.
i just try to apply common sense to shyt.
when you got the fukkin president of the United States braggin about the man not gettin a gig, coaches in the league (on and off record) saying they dont want him CLEARLY for this flag shyt, how is this NOT a slam dunk?

 

[Wear My Dawg's Hat]

I'm conflicted on the lawyer

Would like to have seen one of the top black litigators take this on,
but maybe he did consult with them, and they told him he didn't have a legitimate
collusion claim.

He couldn't go to Ted Wells because of his connection to the League. Wells might be THE top litigator in the country.

Ted Wells
A litigation partner at the New York law firm of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton & Garrison LLP,

A partner and co-chair of the Litigation Department, Theodore V. Wells, Jr. has extensive litigation experience in white-collar defense, complex civil and corporate litigation, SEC regulatory work, healthcare fraud, FCPA, AML and OFAC investigations, environmental matters and class action litigation.

In 2010 The National Law Journal named Ted one of “The Decade’s Most Influential Lawyers” and over the years has repeatedly selected him as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America, including naming Ted as the Lawyer of the Year in 2006. Ted also has been recognized as one of the outstanding jury trial lawyers in the United States by numerous publications including Chambers USA, which has noted that Ted “is considered by many to be ‘the best trial lawyer in the country.’” Since 2013, Chambers USA has named Ted a Star Performer in three categories: nationwide trial litigation, New York general commercial litigation and New York white-collar crime and government investigations, and Benchmark Litigation named him in similar categories. The Legal 500 has recognized him as a Leading Lawyer in white-collar criminal defense and as a Leading Trial Lawyer. Recently, in 2017, Ted was named a recipient for the New York Law Journal’s “Lifetime Achievement” award.

Bu what about Billy Martin?

In 1990, Martin began his private practice as a partner with Eckert Seamans in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, which represented all three major Pittsburgh sports franchises. It was at this time that Martin got his start defending famous athletes, and it was at this time that the late Johnny Cochrane became Martin’s mentor. In 1993, Martin defended NBA star Allen Iverson, before moving to the firm of William R. Martin & Associates in Washington, D.C. a year later. From 1997 to 2000, Martin worked as a partner in the litigation department of Manatt Phelps & Phillips, and in 1998, he defended Monica Lewinsky and her mother, Marcia Lewis, during President Clinton’s impeachment proceedings. He managed block a second grand jury appearance by Lewis and obtain an offer of blanket immunity for Lewinsky. In 2000, Martin moved to the firm of Dyer Ellis & Joseph, which merged with Blank Rome in 2003. While at the firm, Martin defended Chandra Levy’s parents in 2002, former NBA player Jayson Williams in 2004, and former Atlanta mayor Bill Campbell in 2004. From 2007 to 2009, Martin led the white-collar criminal defense group at Sutherland Asbill & Brennan, where in 2007 he defended football player Michael Vick on his dog fighting charges, and in 2008 he represented Senator Larry Craig in his effort to overturn his disorderly conduct conviction. In addition to his celebrity clients, however, Martin also worked to defend Fortune 500 companies. In May 2009, Martin joined Howrey LLP in their Washington, D.C. office, where he heads the White Collar Criminal Defense Practice.

Then there is this lawyer currently in private litigation practice named Holder.

Eric Holder advises clients on complex investigations and litigation matters, including those that are international in scope and involve significant regulatory enforcement issues and substantial reputational concerns. Mr. Holder, who was a partner at Covington from 2001 to 2009, rejoined the firm after serving for six years as the 82nd Attorney General of the United States.

Before his service as Attorney General, Mr. Holder maintained a wide-ranging investigations and litigation practice at Covington. Among numerous significant engagements, he led the firm’s representation of a major multi-national agricultural company in related civil, criminal, and investigative matters; acted as counsel to a special investigative committee of the board of directors of a Fortune 50 technology company; successfully tried a complex discrimination lawsuit on behalf of a leading financial services company; and represented several life sciences companies in litigation and investigations.

 

[ORDER_66]

Sees how fast jerry jones made those twitter posts about trump referencing the NFL rule book's chapter about forcing players to stand. That right there is collusion upon itself and highly illegal. There's a law stating no active president may enforce or pass business actions against a private institution I believe... I saw the law somewhere.

Did Trump Break the Law by Telling NFL Owners to Fire Players?

U.S. Code, Title 18, Part 1, Chapter 11, Section 227, which is titled, “Wrongfully influencing a private entity’s employment decisions by a Member of Congress or an officer or employee of the legislative or executive branch.” It states:

(a) Whoever, being a covered government person, with the intent to influence, solely on the basis of partisan political affiliation, an employment decision or employment practice of any private entity —

(1) takes or withholds, or offers or threatens to take or withhold, an official act, or

(2) influences, or offers or threatens to influence, the official act of another, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than 15 years, or both, and may be disqualified from holding any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.

(b) In this section, the term “covered government person” means —

(1) a Senator or Representative in, or a Delegate or Resident Commissioner to, the Congress;

(2) an employee of either House of Congress; or

(3) the President, Vice President, an employee of the United States Postal Service or the Postal Regulatory Commission, or any other executive branch employee (as such term is defined under section 2105 of title 5, United States Code).

Also Kap proving the league owners financed trump's campaign or donated money to him... That's a bad look, shows collusion. Them having private conversations with trump abut Kap that shows collusion. but even jerry jones admitted he talks to trump soley on kap. So right then and there is positive collusion. If there was an actual owner who can tie all this together they had about that private meeting where they discussed the kneeling players and kap and they colluded to black ball him, if there's a transcript?!!?!

 

[JLova]

So you just throw away 20 Million guaranteed that they signed with Bortles and take Kap?

this is why I find it hard to argue with ppl around here, because they don't look at things objectively.

actually...
Blake Bortles

it looks like if they would have cut him in the off season they would take a 6 million cap hit this year and 19 next year.


For a QB, that has only has 3 MORE total touchdowns (rushing AND passing) in two MORE seasons? Also, Bortles has ALREADY thrown for more yards than Kap has in his whole career

Bortles been on a consistently way shyttier team than kapernick has been on with far worse coaching.


where is his pass?

Sigh. Don't go down this path. There isn't a single person in the league that would say Bortles is better than Kaep. Bortles has thrown for more yardage and touchdowns than Alex Smith ever has in a season, you'd be a fool to want Bortles over Smith.

Kaep has played in a run first offense in the toughest division in football. Using yardage and TDs is silly if you don't look at the entire picture.

4 playoff wins BTW.

 

[PS5 Pro]

Them INDIVIDUALLY not wanting to sign and them colluding together are totally different.

It's the NFL which covers all the teams. Now if you wanna play ignorant to what's going on? That's on you. I will say with your logic the Rooney rule would have never been put into place because how can you prove it, right?

If you have coming sense, you have proof

 

[Maschine_Man]

Sigh. Don't go down this path. There isn't a single person in the league that would say Bortles is better than Kaep. Bortles has thrown for more yardage and touchdowns than Alex Smith ever has in a season, you'd be a fool to want Bortles over Smith.

Kaep has played in a run first offense in the toughest division in football. Using yardage and TDs is silly if you don't look at the entire picture.

4 playoff wins BTW.

I'm not saying ppl wouldn't say Kaep is better, but if you know ANYTHING about football is that players are picked based on potential. And teams don't give up on their number one picks very easily, especially when the cap hit is so high.

Why are you allowing yourself to completely lose objectivity and context here?


Also, I hate when ppl say that Kap played on this shytty team, then turn around and say he had 4 playoff wins. obviously the team wasn't that bad. whereas Jax has ALWAYS had a bad teamand bad coaching.

 

[RAX 010]

 

[El Poyo Loco]

Who said they had to cut Bortles? You add Kaep to the team as a 2nd stringer on a cheap salary. He woulda signed at $10M possibly less. If teams want to WIN games, they would have no issue signing Kaep. Jags offense perfectly suited to his strengths.

If the Jags would've offered Kaep the league minimum or a little bit above he would've taken it and every team knows it too. Put Kaep with Fornette and that offense starts moving and not relying on the defense which has been solid in the 1st half of the season

 

[aceboon]

John Lynch has already stated on record that they would have cut him if he didnt opt out, if you aren't knowledgeable about the situation then you should just read first before spouting off bullshyt.

Didn’t he voluntarily opt out of a contract earlier this year?

He would be in the nfl right now if he didn’t opt out....on his own.

I wonder how that would factor in to this case.

Also, let’s get specific, what teams would be a realistic fit for him, and what are their qb situations like?

Cuz, he’s not even wouldn’t be better than at least 20 other qbs

Can we take emotions out of this argument for a minute?

What teams should even take him and why?

Cuz these are the things that will get brought up in court. And they need to prove that he would be a better fit then what those teams got.

 

[JLova]

If the Jags would've offered Kaep the league minimum or a little bit above he would've taken it and every team knows it too. Put Kaep with Fornette and that offense starts moving and not relying on the defense which has been solid in the 1st half of the season

Of course. Dude just wanted to play even as a backup. But media made it seem like he wanted big money and guaranteed starter role. Then they tried to say he couldn't play. Then they said it was about the flag. Then back to not fitting an offence.

 

[Maschine_Man]

If the Jags would've offered Kaep the league minimum or a little bit above he would've taken it and every team knows it too. Put Kaep with Fornette and that offense starts moving and not relying on the defense which has been solid in the 1st half of the season

why would kap opt out of a multimillion dollar deal earlier this year, just to take the league min?

it just don't add up.

maybe today he would....but in the off season? I don't think so