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Bro he lives in the state of banks why did you believe him?


Because the motherfukker said it multiple times. He was selling it heavy as a part of his campaign. Plus he didn’t guarantee full forgiveness, he actually give a partial number that wasn’t unrealistic.
 

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Because the motherfukker said it multiple times. He was selling it heavy as a part of his campaign. Plus he didn’t guarantee full forgiveness, he actually give a partial number that wasn’t unrealistic.


Again he lives in the state of banks, you know damn well the government not forgiving even a fraction of loans on a big scale. This government was bullshytting giving out stimulus checks
 

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Oh, an attempted insult.

I know some of them were Dem points. My point still stands. The voter bases are different.

The notion that we should just whatever 180 a politican does because they are from the same party or ideology is a sheepish mentality.
No. The sober take is forgiving student debt that affects roughly 12% of the population is less impactful and frankly less important than other initiatives, for example, extending the CTC, prescription drug price control, and making sure the country can function with the ongoing changes with Covid.

Political capital isn't unlimited so why waste a lot on that while you're already on the balance with your major initiatives.

For many Americans the CTC will provide more aid than student debt relief. :manny:
 

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No. The sober take is forgiving student debt that affects roughly 12% of the population is less impactful and frankly less important than other initiatives, for example, extending the CTC, prescription drug price control, and making sure the country can function with the ongoing changes with Covid.

Political capital isn't unlimited so why waste a lot on that while you're already on the balance with your major initiatives.

For many Americans the CTC will provide more aid than student debt relief. :manny:
Thats moving the goal posts. Nobody is talking about CTC or anything else.

We are talking about one issue and one issue only. And he's facing pressure for it for lying to people's faces.
 

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At this point let them. :yeshrug:

Manchin has already blocked voting rights for black people and paid maternity leave for women.

Let's see what happens when he blocks a black woman from getting on the Supreme Court. :mjlit:
what will happen? that big black voting block in WV will teach him a lesson? or will he laugh as there is a backlash against a black man in georgia because of his actions? all of the people who will be punished because of manchema are people they don't like anyway.
 

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what will happen? that big black voting block in WV will teach him a lesson? or will he laugh as there is a backlash against a black man in georgia because of his actions? all of the people who will be punished because of manchema are people they don't like anyway.

I already explained this. It's not about punishing Manchin or Sinema. Manchin knows he won't face any political consequences and Sinema doesn't seem to care.

The only hope Dems have is to let them keep blocking everything while showing they're otherwise united, in hopes that it ignites the base into making the two of them irrelevant.

I've been saying for months I don't know if this strategy will work, but that's all they got because Manchin and Sinema can't be pressured politically or wined and dined until they cave.
 

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manchin and sinema have you all shook :laff:

why the fukk would either of them vote against biden's supreme court pick :mindblown:

The same reasons they blocked BBB and voting rights. :yeshrug:

Either someone is paying them to, or because they aren't really Democrats and just want to help the GOP.
 

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You haven't had to pay a single dollar since Joe Biden has been in office. :smugbiden:
That has nothing to do with the basis of what we're talking about. Failure to fairly criticize someone because they are a member or leader of a party you identify with is a sheep mentality. Thats not necessary.
 

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That has nothing to do with the basis of what we're talking about. Failure to fairly criticize someone because they are a member or leader of a party you identify with is a sheep mentality. Thats not necessary.
I'm just going by what he's said.
Nov 2020
A reporter asked a question about Joe Biden’s economic recovery plan, “Does student loan forgiveness figure in your plan? Would you take executive action to achieve it?”

Joe Biden responded, “It does figure in my plan. I’ve laid out in detail. For example, the legislation passed by the Democratic House calls for immediate $10,000 forgiveness of student loans. It’s holding people up. They’re in real trouble. They’re having to make choices between paying their student loan and paying their rent. Those kind of decisions. It should be done immediately.”

Dec 2020
“I’m going to get in trouble for saying this, [but] it’s arguable that the president may have the executive power to forgive up to $50,000 in student debt,” Biden told the Washington Post’s Karen Tumulty. “Well, I think that’s pretty questionable. I’m unsure of that. I’d be unlikely to do that.”

You can argue until you're blue in the face if he has the authority or not to do it via executive order, but he's been consistent on the idea he'd like it to be handled via legislation.

:manny:
 
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