Just trying to get our Coli Rating Up - Miami Heat Season thread 2015/16

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Last matchup ever in the AAA between the two best SG's in the post MJ era :wow:

The Finals we never got :ohlawd: Prime Wade vs. Prime Kobe in a 7 game series would've been legendary

Lets do it one more time ya'll

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He's just saying that even though they get similar results and have similar mindsets, Kawhi is blessed with physical gifts that Winslow isn't blessed with which I can agree with, but Winslow is pretty damn athletic and he's bigger and about as long Wade was when he came into the league (6'10.5 standing reach, 225 lbs of compact muscle, etc) and the dude can jump higher than he seems.

Winslow has a high motor, great stamina and toughness (Mental and physical), and he's very smart.

Hes gonna explode in his 2nd or third year like Butler or Paul George as he gets his offensive confidence. Dude is just trying to learn his role right now but I think he's gonna end up being one of those "We let this motherfukka drop this far in the draft :mjcry:" in a couple of years when he's gonna be a 20-5-5 player that can play lockdown defense and take over games (He has that "Will my team to win" spirit like Wade too)
i understand that now. but before he said Winslow isnt like Kawhi & more like Harden. Sure Kawhi was blessed with physical gifts that Winslow wasnt. i still think Winslow is going to be a Kawhi like player. he already has the mindset & the drive to always get better & do what the team needs to win.

If he can be a Paul George like player on offense. then we got away with highway robbery drafting Winslow at 10. PG is a MVP like player & can carry a team.
 

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He's just saying that even though they get similar results and have similar mindsets, Kawhi is blessed with physical gifts that Winslow isn't blessed with which I can agree with, but Winslow is pretty damn athletic and he's bigger and about as long Wade was when he came into the league (6'10.5 standing reach, 225 lbs of compact muscle, etc) and the dude can jump higher than he seems.

Winslow has a high motor, great stamina and toughness (Mental and physical), and he's very smart.

Hes gonna explode in his 2nd or third year like Butler or Paul George as he gets his offensive confidence. Dude is just trying to learn his role right now but I think he's gonna end up being one of those "We let this motherfukka drop this far in the draft :mjcry:" in a couple of years when he's gonna be a 20-5-5 player that can play lockdown defense and take over games (He has that "Will my team to win" spirit like Wade too)
Exactly

And this is what i was trying to tell you @WaddupDoe!

When i compare players i look at what they do and how they do it. Not just the end result itself. Elton Brand, Kevin Garnett and C-Webber were all 20-10 guys but very very different games among the 3

For example some would compare Grant Hill to Lebron and Pippen. To me Grant Hill is more like Pippen than he is Lebron because they are both SF's who can handle PG duties and excellent passers and excellent defenders. Notice, while Lebron does these things too, his game is more of a power game whereas Pippen and Hill are more finesse.

Winslow gets similar RESULTS as Leonard but they go about it differently on offense. Leonard plays above the rim. Winslow doesnt. Thus why i said on offense Winslow is more like Harden: Crafty, smart player can take you to the whole and finish or draw contact but they dont play above the rim like Leonard or Lebron.

Physically and athletically, Winslow is like a smaller version of Rudy Gay right now. But thats as far as the comparison there will go. Right now the only similar tings with Winslow and Leonard (TO ME) are they are both good defenders and both play SF. Nothing else.
 

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i guess we see it different. because i see Winslow more as Kawhi when you take in all facets of their games. & less like Harden because Harden was far more advanced on offense then Winslow.

but i guess only time will tell. but so far winslow has been more down the Kawhi path. coming in playing great defense guarding the teams best player & getting some 3s. but doing all the dirty work.
 

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they got rid of Rio, yall can be happy now

Stokes? thats o'boy out of Tennessee, right? he is actually pretty nice. Udrih tho? iono about that. Rio was actually playing good ball. But Udrih is a more under control player. he is going to do what he is suppose to do & not have those Rio "wtf" turnovers or plays.

I actually like it we come up imo.
 

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Don't like that dumping for tax relief shyt man. Dude's a rotation player, Miller wasn't when he traded him.
we are getting players back tho. both of which are going to get PT. Stokes imo is here to potential be a UD replacement. He is a PF who is a grinder type of player.
 
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we are getting players back tho. both of which are going to get PT. Stokes imo is here to potential be a UD replacement. He is a PF who is a grinder type of player.
the quick emergence of winslow and TJ made rio and ennis expendable

but make no mistake, at the end of the day, this is a cost-cutting move.

meanwhile dan gilbert is out there spending whatever he has to field a championship roster:jbhmm:
 
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