Just saw Mad Max and it should've been called Mad Furiosa instead.

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I've said enough about this in the official Fury Road thread but there's a lot of depth to the movie underneath the surface of a big action chase flick. That you don't see it because you've been conditioned to have everything explained to you like an idiot is not the movie's fault.
 

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I've said enough about this in the official Fury Road thread but there's a lot of depth to the movie underneath the surface of a big action chase flick. That you don't see it because you've been conditioned to have everything explained to you like an idiot is not the movie's fault.

Aint not fukking depth. It's a copy and paste type flick.

Apocalyptic world? Check
One leader with rag tag army ruling over the poor people? Check (note: poor people always outnumber the bad guy but uses some type of think the keep over the heads and treat like a god.
White male anti hero? Check
Female supporting actress? Check

bytch was kidnapped and wants to go home. She takes bytches tired of being slaves. She gets to old home and finds out there is no home. Decides to go back since the leader left. Ends up killing leader along the way and now she has the power.

Movie was about power and control. Theron wanted to take back the power and not be a goon. She wanted to control her future. Mad Max wanted to take back his freedom so he can control his own destiny while trying to control his dumb ass dreams which wasn't explained much. Everyone else in the movie wanted to either control land, oil, how they died or their freedom of choice. This movie is like Water World/The Book of Eli. Honestly it was a bunch of noise and gibberish. The only reason why I sat through the whole thing was in hopes of Zoe Kravitz getting bucked naked..... which of course she didn't.
 

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nikkas in here looking for Shakespearean type of drama and shyt :francis:

imagine someone watching 80s actions flicks like Commando and Rambo and Action Jackson for the plot points and focus and character development :mjlol:




mad max... even tho it's a remake/reboot... went for EXACTLY the same crowd as every other Mad Max film

cars and violence and lots of both please


that's all... that's it... period :yeshrug:


and since the action was top notch and the cars/chases were top notch... it pretty much did everything we wanted it to

throwing in plot and other shyt would have made it into some 2015 robocop dumb bullshyt... where instead of keeping it campy and fun like the original... they tried to over explain and dramatize the shyt.. and turned it into...... shyt


Dog , I'm not asking for a a lot, you really missing my point saying some shakespeare shyt. It just didn't do much a job of explaining things at all, I'm not expecting a fully fledged crazy deep inception levels of story. The fact that it campy and limited like that means it can never be a classic to me because it misses critical and integral parts that every movie should include.
 

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Movie literally offers no story or plot , it's just a big long chase scene with most of the movie taking place in or on cars.

But that's why it worked. I feel the problem with a lot of action movies isn't the action itself but everything else. Great action bogged down by a poor narrative. Action movies won't ever be able to tell a story as compelling as some of the best dramas, so why bother?

They stripped it down( like Gravity) and focused on its strength which is action
 

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But that's why it worked. I feel the problem with a lot of action movies isn't the action itself but everything else. Great action bogged down by a poor narrative. Action movies won't ever be able to tell a story as compelling as some of the best dramas, so why bother?

They stripped it down( like Gravity) and focused on its strength which is action

It didn't work, It didn't have a good narrative which is critical to cinema. I'm not asking for my hand to be held , but it dropped the ball on this by giving you virtually nothing. It's action and stuff as I said was on point , but lacking in these other vital parts does not make it a great movie imo. I don't dislike the movie despite my criticisms, I think it is average at best, it's just not this universal classic that many people seem to think. It is better suited in that cult appreciation realm. Where a specific group of people love it and overate it , but to the masses it's nothing special.
 

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The vital parts that Mad Max lacks are its strengths in my opinion. I feel most action movies fail because of their inability to do those vital parts justice. :yeshrug:


I Where a specific group of people love it and overate it , but to the masses it's nothing special.

Nothing wrong with that. But in time I think you'll be proven wrong.
 

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But that's why it worked. I feel the problem with a lot of action movies isn't the action itself but everything else. Great action bogged down by a poor narrative. Action movies won't ever be able to tell a story as compelling as some of the best dramas, so why bother?

They stripped it down( like Gravity) and focused on its strength which is action

Bourne Identity and a bunch of other movies have pulled off. That's just a cop out.
 

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The Bourne films have a source material that it can look back on..What little character depth that film has, is owed to the novel.
 

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All the fuccin mad max gifs that work in context :mjlol:

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Dog , I'm not asking for a a lot, you really missing my point saying some shakespeare shyt. It just didn't do much a job of explaining things at all, I'm not expecting a fully fledged crazy deep inception levels of story. The fact that it campy and limited like that means it can never be a classic to me because it misses critical and integral parts that every movie should include.
and what i'm saying is catch up on 80s action flicks.. some classics... some cult classics

they were campy, redicilous, over the top, no direction, 10 mins of explanation, and a bunch of shooting and killing

90% of 80s actions films were like this.. they embodied that with this "remake" instead of changing it up for 2015 audiences.

go back and watch some old schwarzenegger, stallone, fukking van damme, cast of expendables movies.. same thing
 

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Aint not fukking depth. It's a copy and paste type flick.

Apocalyptic world? Check
One leader with rag tag army ruling over the poor people? Check (note: poor people always outnumber the bad guy but uses some type of think the keep over the heads and treat like a god.
White male anti hero? Check
Female supporting actress? Check

bytch was kidnapped and wants to go home. She takes bytches tired of being slaves. She gets to old home and finds out there is no home. Decides to go back since the leader left. Ends up killing leader along the way and now she has the power.

Movie was about power and control. Theron wanted to take back the power and not be a goon. She wanted to control her future. Mad Max wanted to take back his freedom so he can control his own destiny while trying to control his dumb ass dreams which wasn't explained much. Everyone else in the movie wanted to either control land, oil, how they died or their freedom of choice. This movie is like Water World/The Book of Eli. Honestly it was a bunch of noise and gibberish. The only reason why I sat through the whole thing was in hopes of Zoe Kravitz getting bucked naked..... which of course she didn't.

Nevermind that Miller CREATED the apocalyptic future desolate film.... all those other cliche films simply are following that MAD MAX originated. So you complaining about him rebooting what he 1st originated to begin with?

One leader ruling over an oppressed people? Like that doesn't happen throughout history?

Mad Max as an anti-hero, but plays more like a supporting character.

Furiosa is the supporting character, but plays like the lead-in hero

The movie is NOT about power and control. It is a metaphor to facing your challenges head-on instead of running away from them. The entire story is about each individual not facing their reality and rather escape from it rather than facing it and changing it. The entire chase scene is them running away until Max got the idea of why not turning back to the ROOT and uproot the root, because continuing to run away only leads you nowhere. Max is more like an guardian angel to both Furiosa and Nux, literally transferring his blood into them. He's the one that affect change into them. That's why they were the central figures of the story and not Max... he's just the one that connect them to their true goal. Furiosa didn't want power and control, she wanted to escape from oppression. The wives wanted to escape, but BOTH of them were living good under Immortan Joe's reign. Furiosa was an elite captain of his convoy missions. The wives were pampered and spoiled. It was only because of Furiosa's regret to the life she was living, which he stated to Max she was seeking some kind of redemption is what inspired her to take on this escape as well as got the wives to become self-aware of them being nothing more than slaves. But they wasn't seeking power or control, it just happens that they acquired it once they realized there's no "promise land" except for the land that they once escaped from.

The MORAL of the story is based from the last quote: "Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves?" -The First History Man
 
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I've said enough about this in the official Fury Road thread but there's a lot of depth to the movie underneath the surface of a big action chase flick. That you don't see it because you've been conditioned to have everything explained to you like an idiot is not the movie's fault.
of course there are metaphors and symbolism and meanings beneath the surface but that alone doesn't make a great movie. there still needs to be a compelling story.
 
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