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nah man I really aint tryna argue with someone who thinks Tom Brady has taken worse hits than Joe Montana and Steve Young
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Where do you see me saying he took WORSE hits? You're moving the goalposts now because you realize you don't have a leg to stand on. My argument is that if he's getting hit by bigger and faster athletes over the last 15 years, how wouldn't he be able to survive in the 80s/90s? I'm giving you evidence and common belief of defensive players being bigger and faster now than they were during Montana's era, and Brady has managed to survive for 15 years - how could you possibly make the claim he wouldn't survive back then when all the evidence proves the contrary?
 

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Where do you see me saying he took WORSE hits? You're moving the goalposts now because you realize you don't have a leg to stand on. My argument is that if he's getting hit by bigger and faster athletes over the last 15 years, how wouldn't he be able to survive in the 80s/90s? I'm giving you evidence and common belief of defensive players being bigger and faster now than they were during Montana's era, and Brady has managed to survive for 15 years - how could you possibly make the claim he wouldn't survive back then when all the evidence proves the contrary?

enjoy your day bruh :salute: , again im not going back and forth with someone who is even questioning if Brady could survive in the 80s/90s era of football and even said hes been taking hits like Joe Montana, Steve Young, etc were getting hit in the 80s/90s

im coo man - I dont want to argue with that level of ignorance
 
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enjoy your day bruh :salute: , again im not going back and forth with someone who is even questioning if Brady could survive in the 80s/90s era of football and even said hes been taking hits like Joe Montana, Steve Young, etc were getting hit in the 80s/90s

im coo man - I dont want to argue with that level of ignorance
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The only one that's being ignorant here is you. No sane person would suggest Brady couldn't survive in the 80s/90s. You can't last 15 seasons at the QB position in a heavy-pass system and not experience hits/contact on a level which aren't comparable to what Montana/Young dealt with - let alone suggest that the difference in the hits they experienced would have Brady out the league. It's preposterous.
 
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Let's ask some of the more reasonable older heads, since you can't see the sense in my posting -

@feelosofer @NYC Rebel

This dude is saying that Brady would have NEVER survived in the 80s/90s because he's not tough enough to take the hits QBs experienced in that era. Agree or disagree?

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Let's ask some of the more reasonable older heads, since you can't see the sense in my posting -

@feelosofer @NYC Rebel

This dude is saying that Brady would have NEVER survived in the 80s/90s because he's not tough enough to take the hits QBs experienced in that era. Agree or disagree?

:jbhmm:
I won't say that he wouldn't have survived. His career may have ended by now though. They simply let things go back then that would have taken years away from Brady's body.

I think back being the only I don't at my cousins naming ceremony rooting for the 59ers when Jim Burt knocked out Joe Montana. That would have been flagged in today's NFL.
 
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I won't say that he wouldn't have survived. His career may have ended by now though. They simply let things go back then that would have taken years away from Brady's body.

I think back being the only I don't at my cousins naming ceremony rooting for the 59ers when Jim Burt knocked out Joe Montana. That would have been flagged in today's NFL.
No doubt, but contact like that still happens today - it's just flagged more often. Plus let's not act like during the first half of his career, defenders weren't getting away with similar contact. I mean it isn't like Brady hasn't been hit hard regularly over the last 15 years. I could see an argument if he's only been in the league for five years, with terrycloth running through his veins but he's taken hits like this and still managed to play on -




Fair enough if one believes his career might be shorter in a previous era, but questioning his ability to play in a previous era because he didn't have the toughness to survive - nah.
 
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No doubt, but contact like that still happens today - it's just flagged more often. Plus let's not act during the first half of his career, defenders weren't getting away with similar contact. I mean it isn't like Brady hasn't been hit hard over the last 15 years. I could see an argument if he's only been in the league for five years, with terrycloth running through his veins but he's taken hits like this and still managed to play on -




Fair enough if one believes his career might be shorter in a previous era, but questioning his inability to play in a previous era because he didn't have the toughness to survive - nah.

It happens but not as frequently as it could. Dudes pull up now.

But he no doubt would have been a great player in the past era.
 

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When talking about Montana and Super Bowls don't forget his first 2 came WITHOUT Jerry Rice. There's only 1 team that stood in Montana's way of getting 6 rings.

The New York Football Giants :blessed:



This is what he had to go up against just to get to a Super Bowl. This was basically the end of Joe Montana as a 49er with one of the most iconic NFL hits ever.

In today's game Leonard Marshall would've caught a 15 yard penalty and a fine just for breathing to hard on the leagues golden boy.

 
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What's that got to do with anything?

That just means he wasn't good enough to make the SB in the years he didn't make it. If you make the SB and lose, it's better than not making the SB at all. Same stupid argument is made for Jordan not losing in the Finals.

I feel you on that but what if you make it to the superbowl a lot but u lost all? I think I'd rather not make it to the superbowl at all in that scenario.
 

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Let's ask some of the more reasonable older heads, since you can't see the sense in my posting -

@feelosofer @NYC Rebel

This dude is saying that Brady would have NEVER survived in the 80s/90s because he's not tough enough to take the hits QBs experienced in that era. Agree or disagree?

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Disagree. I hate the Patriots all my heart and soul but one of the most underrated aspects of Tom Brady is his toughness. I mean he has taken more shots this year than most of the years he's played and outside of a stray season here or there he's remained injury free. The only thing that would hurt Tom some is outside of Dan Marino's Dolphin's most teams ran the ball a lot more in those days, but Tom would be a top QB in any era.
 

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The terrible state of NFL offensive line play

NFL's 'O-line epidemic' threatens its QB star system

Why do you think offensive line play is at all time lows now? Because they suddenly don't know how to block?
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No. DE,DT's, And OLB's are bigger faster and stronger then they ever have been. There's a reason everyone is running these short passing attacks, and it's because quarterbacks would be getting killed standing in the pocket and going through progressions like they used. No one can protect the QB well - the good pass rushers are too hard to block one on one, and the blitz schemes are too complicated to pick up.
 
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