Just like in everything else people born after 1990 thinks every player in there genaration is GOAT

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Tom Brady would of never survived in the era joe montana played in. He already gets happy feet when he get hit, them 80s and 90s LBs woulda killed him hes not built for any NFL era but the one he currently plays in.. On the flip side if Joe Montana played in this pass friendly era

tom Brady not even in my top 5 Matt Cassel got 11 wins with that team how can you even put a QB like Brady over someone like steve young or brett favre

joe montana, brett favre, steve young, dan marino all clearly better than him and I got peyton and rodgers over him too if you wanna put brady over peyton - whatever, but hes no where near as good as the other qbs i just listed

This post is on some WOAT shyt.

 

[itsyoung!!]

This post is on some WOAT shyt.

you think brady a better QB than dan marino ? You dont think Dan Marino could do what Tom has done on those Patriot teams ? Do you think Tom woulda thrown for 5000 yards on those dolphin teams ? why dont you speak on it

its called rational thought, use some of it right now

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

you think brady a better QB than dan marino ? You dont think Dan Marino could do what Tom has done on those Patriot teams ? Do you think Tom woulda thrown for 5000 yards on those dolphin teams ? why dont you speak on it

its called rational thought, use some of it right now

Is Brady a better QB - it's certainly debatable. Is Brady a better passer - nah. Marino is the GOAT passer. Brady is definitely capable of putting up 4000/5000+ yards on those Dolphins teams during that period in time. What Marino did was remarkable during his first four seasons, but he was aided by the fact that there really wasn't any defensive schemes out there to stop the pass like that. He was ahead of the curve, and it took the league a while to catch up.

 

[itsyoung!!]

Is Brady a better QB - it's certainly debatable. Is Brady a better passer - nah. Marino is the GOAT passer. Brady is definitely capable of putting up 4000/5000+ yards on those Dolphins teams during that period in time. What Marino did was remarkable during his first four seasons, but he was aided by the fact that there really wasn't any defensive schemes out there to stop the pass like that. He was ahead of the curve, and it took the league a while to catch up.

so what the fukk is your argument then ?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

so what the fukk is your argument then ?

- You said Brady's not even a top 5 QB of all time - WRONG
- You said Brady wouldn't survive in Montana's era - Also WRONG
- You said Matt Cassell had 11 wins with that team - which is pretty much the go-to false aphorism for Brady haters and is void of any other factors which contributed to wins for the Pats in '08
- You laughed at the thought of having Brady above Steve Young and Brett Favre
- You said he's not built for any NFL era, except the one he plays in - which is hilarious since he plays in the most athletic, fast-paced and most advanced pass-defensive era. Not to mention he's one of the least athletic QBs to ever play the game. His IQ and passing ability (his strengths) would translate over to every single era.

Brady's in the conversation of being the best QB of all time - it's as simple as that.

 

[itsyoung!!]

- You said Brady's not even a top 5 QB of all time - WRONG
- You said Brady wouldn't survive in Montana's era - Also WRONG
- You said Matt Cassell had 11 wins with that team - which is pretty much the go-to false aphorism for Brady haters and is void of any other factors which contributed to wins for the Pats in '08
- You laughed at the thought of having Brady above Steve Young and Brett Favre
- You said he's not built for any NFL era, except the one he plays in - which is hilarious since he plays in the most athletic, fast-paced and most advanced pass-defensive era. Not to mention he's one of the least athletic QBs to ever play the game. His IQ and passing ability (his strengths) would translate over to every single era.

Brady's in the conversation of being the best QB of all time - it's as simple as that.

- I said hes not in MY top 5
- Matt cassel did get 11 wins with that team. You cant erase that it happened or pretend it didnt happen. It did.
- Yeah because the thought of Brady getting hit by 80s and 90s defenses is hilarious to me, hes not built for it. They were. If a QB can play in both eras, and 1 cant - then the other QBs are better by default. What is so hard to understand about this? (im talking elite QBs) Thats why Tim Duncan is highly regarded, his level of play would be good in any era.. Tom Brady does not do well under pressure / getting hit (a major reason he has super bowl losses, he gets nervous, acts like he has 2 left feet and starts making poor decisions) . He would fold and be a back up in the 80s and 90s, I have 0 doubt in my mind. He might not even of got a chance to start.
- While players might be more athletic now, they are also way more limited to what they can do. This isnt debatable, are you serious? Fast paced ? For offense maybe, defenses play in zone coverage now most of the game using less pass rushers than ever before as well because hitting QBs like Brady almost surely result in a flag majority of the time. You really think Tom Brady taking LT/Ronnie Lott hits

Brady can be a conversation of great qbs, sure. Best qbs (top 3)? I would say top 10 is considered one of the bests(he would make top 10 list of mine). But would I put him in my top 5 ? No because I can think logically and rationally. No stanning, hes no where near the QB joe montana was let alone steve young

I think its actually disrespect as hell to Dan Marino and the other QBs I listed that someone could even rationally put Tom Brady over them but you came in here talking about "WOAT post" but then agreed with me you came in here just to argue for the sake of arguing.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

- I said hes not in MY top 5

Well that would make your top 5 invalid.

- Matt cassel did get 11 wins with that team. You cant erase that it happened or pretend it didnt happen. It did.

Yes I realize Cassel had 11 wins with that team. What I'm trying to say to you is - don't credit those wins to just him. First of all he wasn't the main reason they won and second of all football isn't an individual sport, hell it's not even like basketball where the main players can have influence on a scale that directly wins games. There's so many factors that were out of Cassel's control that contributed to the Pats winning games (defense, special teams, SOS, form, luck, injuries etc etc). Especially since Cassel only put up 21 TDs, 11 INTs and 3,600 yards (which was just above average #s) and Brady came through and put up 50 TDs, 8 INTs and 4,800 yards the following season (breaking pretty much every single QB record in the book).

- Yeah because the thought of Brady getting hit by 80s and 90s defenses is hilarious to me, hes not built for it. They were. If a QB can play in both eras, and 1 cant .

Brady has been getting hit by the biggest and most athletic defensive players in the HISTORY of the game, for the last 15 years. His toughness and durability shouldn't be questioned.

- While players might be more athletic now, they are also way more limited to what they can do. This isnt debatable, are you serious? Fast paced ? For offense maybe, defenses play in zone coverage now most of the game using less pass rushers than ever before as well because hitting QBs like Brady almost surely result in a flag majority of the time. You really think Tom Brady taking LT/Ronnie Lott hits

QBs STILL get hit just as regularly - in fact they get hit more today due to the fact they pass more. All the rule changes that protect a QB past the line of scrimmage wouldn't affect Brady as he hardly ever runs. The head contact, below the knee and the G&C penalties are in a sense meaningless, because Brady still finds him in situations where these occur. Just because a defensive player is penalized for committing these now illegal actions, doesn't mean Brady still doesn't suffer from getting hit in the head or below the knee. Accidental illegal contact on QBs still happens, regularly.

You can NOT play in this league for 15 seasons as a QB at a high and consistent level, and be deemed not "tough" enough to have played in previous eras. It is simply not reasonable for one to make that claim.

You really think Tom Brady taking LT/Ronnie Lott hits

Of course he would. shyt Brady's taken front on/behind the back/side on hits from Lewis, Brooks, Dawkins, Polamalu, Milloy, Willis, Kearse, Harrison, Seau, Lynch, Merriman etc etc throughout his career and is still standing in the league today as one of the best QBs after 15 seasons.

Brady can be a conversation of great qbs, sure. Best qbs (top 3)? I would say top 10 is considered one of the bests(he would make top 10 list of mine). But would I put him in my top 5 ? No because I can think logically and rationally. No stanning, hes no where near the QB joe montana was let alone steve young

You're not thinking logically and rationally - nostalgia is clouding your judgment. He's absolutely in the same tier as Montana and Young. It's not even up for debate. He's proven that he belongs right next to the greatest QBs that have ever played the game.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I think its actually disrespect as hell to Dan Marino and the other QBs I listed that someone could even rationally put Tom Brady over them but you came in here talking about "WOAT post" but then agreed with me you came in here just to argue for the sake of arguing.

I didn't agree with any of your points. I listed like FIVE points (which was pretty much your entire post) which I disagreed with. I came in here to slap you with some reason and sound logic.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

For the last 15 years, he's been getting hit by players that are just as big and fast (if not MORE) as players in the 80s/90s, and yet he's not tough enough to survive in previous eras according to you.

 

[itsyoung!!]

For the last 15 years, he's been getting hit by players that are just as big and fast (if not MORE) as players in the 80s/90s, and yet he's not tough enough to survive in previous eras according to you.

are you trolling with this absolute shyt post ? please tell me you are.. most these hits are nothing than regular hits, some not even that.. did you just youtube "tom brady hit" and just post the first results that popped up? thats the only explanation I can see for this absolute, garbage of a post

 

[itsyoung!!]

Well that would make your top 5 invalid.

Yes I realize Cassel had 11 wins with that team. What I'm trying to say to you is - don't credit those wins to just him. First of all he wasn't the main reason they won and second of all football isn't an individual sport, hell it's not even like basketball where the main players can have influence on a scale that directly wins games. There's so many factors that were out of Cassel's control that contributed to the Pats winning games (defense, special teams, SOS, form, luck, injuries etc etc). Especially since Cassel only put up 21 TDs, 11 INTs and 3,600 yards (which was just above average #s) and Brady came through and put up 50 TDs, 8 INTs and 4,800 yards the following season (breaking pretty much every single QB record in the book).



Brady has been getting hit by the biggest and most athletic defensive players in the HISTORY of the game, for the last 15 years. His toughness and durability shouldn't be questioned.

QBs STILL get hit just as regularly - in fact they get hit more today due to the fact they pass more. All the rule changes that protect a QB past the line of scrimmage wouldn't affect Brady as he hardly ever runs. The head contact, below the knee and the G&C penalties are in a sense meaningless, because Brady still finds him in situations where these occur. Just because a defensive player is penalized for committing these now illegal actions, doesn't mean Brady still doesn't suffer from getting hit in the head or below the knee. Accidental illegal contact on QBs still happens, regularly.

You can NOT play in this league for 15 seasons as a QB at a high and consistent level, and be deemed not "tough" enough to have played in previous eras. It is simply not reasonable for one to make that claim.

Of course he would. shyt Brady's taken front on/behind the back/side on hits from Lewis, Brooks, Dawkins, Polamalu, Milloy, Willis, Kearse, Harrison, Seau, Lynch, Merriman etc etc throughout his career and is still standing in the league today as one of the best QBs after 15 seasons.

You're not thinking logically and rationally - nostalgia is clouding your judgment. He's absolutely in the same tier as Montana and Young. It's not even up for debate. He's proven that he belongs right next to the greatest QBs that have ever played the game.

stick to basketball, you know nothing of football. The fukk is this post ? some grade A WOAT posting going on this thread, and its all coming from you


not only that, you are just naming popular players - when did Junior Seau or Merriman ever sack/hit Tom Brady? and John Lynch hit on Tom Brady;

such a brutal hit

 

[BLAZO da GAWD]

Montana never lost a Super Bowl and would've had more if his backup wasn't a HOF QB.

He then takes the Chiefs to the AFC title game in his short stint there and they haven't been back since.

I'll give you Duncan. His game transcends different era's. But the difference between me and young nikkas is I don't go around dismissing PF's before Duncan.

Getting to a SB and losing >>> not getting to a SB.

After next week, Brady will be heading to his 7th SB and he's shown no signs of slowing down. He still lead the league in TD's and 3rd in yards whilst playing with a makeshift offense the second half of the season.

 

[BLAZO da GAWD]

I'm shocked at @itsyoung!! posting in here :dempsee: shockingly terrible stuff

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

are you trolling with this absolute shyt post ? please tell me you are.. most these hits are nothing than regular hits, some not even that.. did you just youtube "tom brady hit" and just post the first results that popped up? thats the only explanation I can see for this absolute, garbage of a post

You're acting as if QBs in the 90s/80s were getting hit more regularly and harder than that. They weren't.



If Brady can take hits like that and get up and keep playing, he's going to be able to take hits in the 80s/90s and do the same.

 

[itsyoung!!]

I'm shocked at @itsyoung!! posting in here :dempsee: shockingly terrible stuff

yeah because posting players who never even hit the QB in question is some grade A posting

Steph Curry dunked on Michael Jordan

the players today in the NFL are better, harder hitting and more skilled than LT and Ronnie Lott

Guess I should just continue to make up shyt as long as it isnt going against Tom Brady so these could be considered good posts

edit: if you were the dolphins in the 80s, would you draft Tom Brady over Joe Montana or Dan Marino? knowing what we know about all players questioned here?