Just like in everything else people born after 1990 thinks every player in there genaration is GOAT

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

stick to basketball, you know nothing of football. The fukk is this post ? some grade A WOAT posting going on this thread, and its all coming from you

You don't have an answer for what I posted because you can't refute it.

not only that, you are just naming popular players - when did Junior Seau or Merriman ever sack/hit Tom Brady?

I'm not just naming popular players - I'm naming some of the HARDEST hitters to every play the game - that was the whole point in mentioning them you dumb fukk.

and John Lynch hit on Tom Brady;

such a brutal hit

Did you just post a gif of Lynch grabbing Brady after the play was already blown dead? The levels of stupidity.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

yeah because posting players who never even hit the QB in question is some grade A posting

Merriman has sacked Brady three times in his career. You're speaking like somebody that doesn't even watch football.

 

[itsyoung!!]

You don't have an answer for what I posted because you can't refute it.

I'm not just naming popular players - I'm naming some of the HARDEST hitters to every play the game - that was the whole point in mentioning them you dumb fukk.

Did you just post a gif of Lynch grabbing Brady after the play was already blown dead? The levels of stupidity.

you are also naming players who never sacked or hit tom brady so what the fukk is the point of listing them ? you said Tom Brady been taking hits from Junior Seau. I dont remember Shawn Merriman sacking Tom Brady, you said he sacked him 3 times, I dont remember them But thats just as bad as you saying Junior Seau been hitting Tom Brady

Merriman has sacked Brady three times in his career. You're speaking like somebody that doesn't even watch football.

and when did Junior Seau sack Tom Brady? Thats who you listed..

edit: has Dawkins ever sacked Brady

 

[notPsychosiz]

No respect to the previous generation. It would be like people saying Vince Carter >> Dr J or Dirk > Bird.
Alonzo Mourning > Moses Malone. Shaq >>>>>>>> Wilt.

Players during the 90's were given their proper respect but players in the 80's and back didn't get shytted on or disrespected. Kobe got compared to MJ but it was out of respect, not to crown him GOAT.

Young people kill me when it comes to their sports narrative. Same thing in football. They shyt on players they never saw play in their prime if at all. Trying to talk shyt even though you can smell the baby food and breast milk on their stank breath. Dismiss entire generations of players just because you were too young or wasn't born to see them play breh's


There's a reason why you pay $400 for Jordans that came out when the sperm that made you didn't even get produced yet.

Shaq is one of the greatest of all time. (Literally one of the 50 greatest)
Dirk is also. (voted next 10 to the 50 greatest list)

Dirk gets you more than Bird. All the range and accuracy but can shotblock, rebound, doesn't have bad knees... and can lead a team to a championship solo without 3 or 4 other hall of famers needing to be on his squad. So yeah... I could see Dirk > Bird

Vince Carter and Alonzo Mourning however were merely good players.
Anyone that says Vince Carter > Dr J is trolling.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

Tom is the GOAT

He's just icing the cake at this point

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

you are also naming players who never sacked or hit tom brady so what the fukk is the point of listing them ?

All those players have either hit, tackled or sacked Brady.

you said Tom Brady been taking hits from Junior Seau

Yes he has. When he was playing for the Dolphins - 2003 specifically, when Miami had one of the best defenses in the league. It was either the shutout game or the game where Brady won it in OT on a bomb to Troy Brown. Ogunleye and Taylor were folding back the tackles and getting inside the guards [sacking/hitting Brady] and Zach/Seau were getting through to stop Faulk or A.Smith (who was the feature back around that time) and getting to Brady after he got rid of the ball.

 

[semtex]

Cam Newton

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Steph Curry dunked on Michael Jordan

This is one of the more stupid comparisons I've read, for obvious reasons.

the players today in the NFL are better, harder hitting and more skilled than LT and Ronnie Lott

I never said players today were hit harder,or were more skilled or even better than LT and Lott. I said defensive players on average are faster and bigger than in the 80s/90s. Let's not make the false line that the majority or even some of the players were on Lott's and LT's level when it came to hitting. You think a few instances during a few games in a season playing those two would've affected Brady's career?



Why are you speaking as if Brady would have to go up against LT and Lott types every game? Why are you speaking as if Brady would be hit hard by LT and Lott types every game? Why are you speaking as if Brady doesn't get hit more today than if he did playing in the 80s?

Are you going to seriously sit there and act like Brady isn't capble of taking hits like this -

edit: if you were the dolphins in the 80s, would you draft Tom Brady over Joe Montana or Dan Marino? knowing what we know about all players questioned here?

This is a stupid question.

 

[itsyoung!!]

This is one of the more stupid comparisons I've read, for obvious reasons.

I never said players today were hit harder,or were more skilled or even better than LT and Lott. I said defensive players on average are faster and bigger than in the 80s/90s. Let's not make the false line that the majority or even some of the players were on Lott's and LT's level when it came to hitting. You think a few instances during a few games in a season playing those two would've affected Brady's career?



Why are you speaking as if Brady would have to go up against LT and Lott types every game? Why are you speaking as if Brady would be hit hard by LT and Lott types every game? Why are you speaking as if Brady doesn't get hit more today than if he did playing in the 80s?

Are you going to seriously sit there and act like Brady isn't capble of taking hits like this -




This is a stupid question.

15 year career but you keep posting the same video for the 3rd time

are you really in here saying defense is as hard hitting now as the 80s and 90s ?

are you really comparing the hits tom brady took compared to joe montana ?

You say its a stupid question, but you are on Tom Brady nuts so hard in this thread, why wouldnt your obvious answer be Tom Brady? Because you know the other 2 are better, so how can he be your GOAT ? dumbass



well its time for me to go, I hope you stop posting in this thread cause the shyt you posting in here is damn near hurting my head I dont want to read any more of these stupid posts when I wake up

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

15 year career but you keep posting the same video for the 3rd time

Because they're examples of the punishment he's taken over his career. Are you that remedial and ignorant that a QB who plays in a pass-heavy system, where the pass:run ratio is so one-sided that it's virtually impossible for him not to take heavy hits practically every single game across 15 seasons?

are you really in here saying defense is as hard hitting now as the 80s and 90s ?

Do you watch football or do you just skim through it?

What I'm telling you is, there's no noticeable difference between the hits that Montana or any other QB during his era suffered, and what Brady has dealt with since the early 2000s - most certainly not a margin that would have Brady out of the league in the 80s/90s because he wasn't tough enough. Especially since defensive players are faster and bigger today.

You're just regurgitating the same uneducated and braindead pomposity that football fans live in the past do.

are you really comparing the hits tom brady took compared to joe montana ?

Montana and every other QB weren't getting hit like that. You either i) don't know what you're talking about ii) haven't seen enough 80s 49ers game iii) haven't watch enough Pats games over the last one and a half decades.

 

[.༼-◕_◕-༽.]

People still buy Jordan's?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

You say its a stupid question, but you are on Tom Brady nuts so hard in this thread, why wouldnt your obvious answer be Tom Brady? Because you know the other 2 are better, so how can he be your GOAT ? dumbass

You truly are some special kind of dumb muhfukka.

He's not my GOAT. There isn't a GOAT QB, there are far too many factors to take into consideration that influence their level of player. He is however, one of the greatest, and most certainly in the top 5. It's a stupid question [asking who I would draft in the 80s out of Brady, Marino and Montana ]because you're working on nonlinear time frame which is in direct conflict with Brady having the knowledge of watching Montana/Marino play and living through a period in which he was privy to all the trend changes in football.

well its time for me to go, I hope you stop posting in this thread cause the shyt you posting in here is damn near hurting my head I dont want to read any more of these stupid posts when I wake up

That's because you're a remedial ass muhfukka.

 

[WhenWeWereKings]

If you wanna put this era of passing in the NFL into proper perspective just let this marinate.......Ryan Tannehill has thrown for 4,000 yds in back to back seasons....

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@itsyoung!! this is an article from 2013 -

Are NFL Football Hits Getting Harder And More Dangerous?

Super Bowl XLVII will kick off Sunday with its typical bombastic fanfare: Beyonce will wow us with her live halftime show, and "space baby" commercials will overload us with cuteness.

But this year, there's a gray cloud hanging over the Super Bowl: the mounting anger about devastating injuries to players' brains and bodies.

Thousands of former NFL players are suing the league over allegations that it covered up brain injuries. Even President Obama is concerned: On Jan. 26, he lamented the violence of football in an interview with The New Republic.

But tough, rowdy NFL linemen have been taking down unsuspecting quarterbacks for almost a century. Have hits really gotten harder — and more dangerous — in recent years?

That's a complicated question, says Timothy Gay, a physicist at the University of Nebraska and author of Football Physics: The Science of the Game. But a look at the physics behind a tackle suggests that the answer is yes, Gay says.

One thing is for certain — football players have gotten much bigger and faster.

And the laws of physics tell us that the force of a hit depends on three factors: body weight, speed and how quickly the players stop moving.

Back in the 1920s, when the NFL was just getting started, the average lineman weighed only about 190 pounds. Now they average 300 pounds.

That means Hall of Famer Morris "Red" Badgro, who played for the New York Giants in 1930, would lay down quarterbacks with about 970 pounds of force, according to Newton's second law (and a bunch of simplifications).

In contrast, Baltimore Ravens starting lineman Haloti Ngata weighs 335 pounds and runs the 40-yard dash in just under five seconds. If he sacks Colin Kaepernick on Sunday, he'll unleash about 1,700 pounds of force.

In other words, getting stopped by Ngata is literally like having nearly a ton of bricks fall on you.

"These are very strong forces," Gay says. "This is why they call football a contact sport."

Athletes can usually handle these hits when the energy and force spread across the whole body, especially with the help from modern-day padding. But when the tackles are focused on small areas, like during a helmet-to-helmet collision, then the impacts become severe.

Such collisions occur about 10 times faster than full-body tackles, Stefan Duma, a bioengineer at Virginia Tech, tells Shots. And so a player's head comes to a complete stop much more quickly than the rest of the body. Inside their helmets, they feel G-forces five times bigger than what jet pilots feel when they pull tight turns.

Although these numbers are just estimates, Duma says they fit well with what he actually measures on the field.

For the past 10 years, he's been putting little devices inside the helmets of Virginia Tech football players to monitor how fast their heads slow down during hard tackles.

"Since we've been measuring, the hits haven't gotten stronger," Duma tells Shots. "Even 10 years ago the athletes were very strong and fast. I mean Michael Vick was on our team then."

Duma says players' weights and training regimes really haven't shifted since about the '90s. "If you were really talking about changes, you'd have to look back decades."

So what does this all mean for concussions and brain injuries?

Neurologist Vassilis Koliatsos at Johns Hopkins University says doctors and scientists are still trying to figure that out. "Faster, heavier, more aggressive players will absolutely increase the impacts," Koliatsos tells Shots. "They are quite severe."

But right now, he says, they don't have scientific evidence about what links concussions to long-term brain injuries. "There's even some concern that weaker, nonconcussive hits — although poorly defined — may also have something to do with it."

@itsyoung!! it would pay for you to read this since you seem to think QBs were getting hit harder in the 80s/90s.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@itsyoung!! you read the above article yet?