Juice WRLD Lost Millions After Sting took 85% of Lucid Dreams

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This is the type of behavior that caused song sampling to slow down in the mid-2000s onwards. Too much greediness from the original sampled artists and record labels regarding clearances. :francis:

You can't even pay homage no more...

You can no longer sample or draw inspiration from they're shyt.
Stop lining these mf's pockets.

I had to throw about 150 beats in the bushes. :snoop:


Leave that old ass music alone. Let that shyt fade into obscurity.



I say that as a producer!

Greediness for wanting compensation from someone using, LIFTING your melody? The audacity, too bad all those cancer patients and kids with cleft palates won’t get the proceeds Juice was gonna give them from this cut. Oh wait, :rudy:

And lol@ Sting fading into obscurity. Mr. Producer if you got 150 beats sampling people’s songs-I mean “paying homage”- maybe you need to go back to the drawing board and learn how to be original, perhaps? :dwillhuh:


When this song starts the first few times I heard it before my display showed Juice Wrld I was like why are the HH stations playing Sting?:leostare:
 

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It’s usually a 100%
Or they can take a 100 %


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Yup!! They can ALWAYS take 100%

In what world, do you get to straight up STEAL copy written material, then sell it, while also dictating the terms of how you can use it?

You can’t rip the back off an iPhone, call it a Jphone, and think apple cant get 100% same with Microsoft, apple, or any other product

Same goes for music. I can deny your clearance request, tell you give me 100 or nothing, or tell you give me 20 million and 100%


It’s mine. I made it. I own it. I dictate terms for my shyt. You might get it free, you might give me half, I might take your life savings. Don’t like it? Make your own shyt
 

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the guy that that made the beat said its not a sample rip, he laid the riff on the keys, it just happens to be that the vst guitar he used on the beat sounds very very close to the sting version, thats why sting likes it

but yeah anyway nothing wrong with sting taking 85 of the cut, most of the time its 100%or you going to court

he a god damn lie :russ:



 

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That really sucks for the young artist, but it weren't for that beat and that song we wouldn't be talking about him right now most likely. Live and learn.
 

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As a producer, you're shytting on another producer/songwriter (Sting) and assuming that a Sting song will "fade into obscurity". From one producer to another, please do your homework and get familiar with legendary artists and the groups that they originated from (The Police, fyi). Furthermore, stop sampling HITS and start digging for actual obscure records to sample from if you wanna go that route. Do the knowledge on sampling, research Biz Markie , Vanilla Ice, etc and why most of De La Soul's catalog is not online.
When people talk about sampling nowadays people forget that the laws for it have pretty much been in place since that Biz Markie lawsuit in the early 90s. That era with NWA, De LA Soul, and Public Enemy blending a million samples was dead by 94, and guys started getting more creative with obscure stuff.

Even still, you'd have the label mandated single sampling an 80s hit and they would give up the publishing to satisfy the execs.

Like De La Soul said Me Myself and I was the last song they recorded on their first album after the label said they needed a hit, so they just found an old funk hit and said fukk it.

But people sampling obscure artists, especially the underground rappers, could get away with. RZA got mad samples that are STILL undiscovered, over two decades later.
 
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