Josh Kiddey next on that summer jam screen, oh lawd…

[newarkhiphop]

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.

I'm saying, the parents don't seem to cooperating with authorities in an investigation for giddey (giddey/Diddy, helluva coincidence).

But they just hired a lawyer that sues the shyt out of people.
If they were going after giddey, it would only be right to be cooperative in an investigation against him and also sue.

So I believe they might be going In a different direction

I think your confusing what "not cooperating with authorities" means it simply means your using your right to not to speak to them at the moment about whatever there investigating. It doesn't mean there not interested in charges or punishment (legal or monetary) against him.

I think people forget that you can simply tell cops you don't want to talk to them. I was reminded of this when I got my weapons carrying permit and during the class the question about "what should you do if you shoot someone" came up. The answer was simple, call the cops tell them you shot someone nothing else. When they come don't tell them the how, why, what etc. It's there job to investigate not yours. Your lawyer works out the rest.

In this girls/family case she starts talking to much she herself might end up in trouble, granted not as much him but still

 

[Wargames]

I think your confusing what "not cooperating with authorities" means it simply means your using your right to not to speak to them at the moment about whatever there investigating. It doesn't mean there not interested in charges or punishment (legal or monetary) against him.

I think people forget that you can simply tell cops you don't want to talk to them. I was reminded of this when I got my weapons carrying permit and during the class the question about "what should you do if you shoot someone" came up. The answer was simple, call the cops tell them you shot someone nothing else. When they come don't tell them the how, why, what etc. It's there job to investigate not yours. Your lawyer works out the rest.

In this girls/family case she starts talking to much she herself might end up in trouble, granted not as much him but still

Especially if they find out she may have lied to Giddey about her age. I don’t know if it’s true but that is likely Giddey’s excuse. If it’s true this becomes a case of misrepresentation, Giddey can claim mistake of fact, and that basically ruins the civil case.

Any good lawyer is going to tell you to not help the police unless they know for a fact the evidence and law is in their client’s favor or their client is the victim.

 

[mag357]

I think your confusing what "not cooperating with authorities" means it simply means your using your right to not to speak to them at the moment about whatever there investigating. It doesn't mean there not interested in charges or punishment (legal or monetary) against him.

I think people forget that you can simply tell cops you don't want to talk to them. I was reminded of this when I got my weapons carrying permit and during the class the question about "what should you do if you shoot someone" came up. The answer was simple, call the cops tell them you shot someone nothing else. When they come don't tell them the how, why, what etc. It's there job to investigate not yours. Your lawyer works out the rest.

In this girls/family case she starts talking to much she herself might end up in trouble, granted not as much him but still

Nah bro...
If the police say you are not cooperating. That's what they means.
You are not being cooperative, available for questioning, or not answering questions straightforward.
Sometimes it can mean you're being abrasive with them
"not being cooperative" are not words you hear when a family is looking for police to help them.

There is no way this young lady gets in trouble for anything brother, she is a minor.
Her and her family can tell the authorities everything, and she'll be straight.
They are trying to find wrong doing on the adults end (giddey).

So there would be no reason for them to not cooperate with an investigation dealing with their minor daughter being "sexually assaulted".

 

[mag357]

They don’t need to cooperate with a criminal investigation for a civil one. In fact if they are set up perfectly for him to settle because they have the threat of helping the police to force compliance.

They don't need to cooperate in the criminal investigation.
But it wouldn't look good in a civil case.

I'm not understanding tho brother.
Why would they not cooperate with the police, so they can have the threat of cooperating, to make him settle?????
I'm sure he'd settle asap

But Literally, all the family would normally do is answer the polices questions and also get a lawyer to try to get a settlement from giddey.

Them doing anything other then that makes me think they are going in a different direction.
But I guess we just have to wait and see

 

[Wargames]

They don't need to cooperate in the criminal investigation.
But it wouldn't look good in a civil case.

I'm not understanding tho brother.
Why would they not cooperate with the police, so they can have the threat of cooperating, to make him settle?????
I'm sure he'd settle asap

But Literally, all the family would normally do is answer the polices questions and also get a lawyer to try to get a settlement from giddey.

Them doing anything other then that makes me think they are going in a different direction.
But I guess we just have to wait and see

Its like I said before if the facts are muddy on what Giddey knew or in any way show she might have lied to him about her age, you’re not helping the police investigation because those facts will be brought up in the civil case.

shyt if she sleeps around a lot, has drug issues, mental health issues, any character flaws really. Your not helping your civil case but helping the police collect character info on her sexual history.

Plus, there is an unspoken threat to Giddey to settle with the family out of court because if he doesn’t the family can go to the police and start “cooperating”.

I also think we assume the parent knew, they may not have and now that they do are setting up to sue Giddey.

 

[mag357]

Its like I said before if the facts are muddy on what Giddey knew or in any way show she might have lied to him about her age, you’re not helping the police investigation because those facts will be brought up in the civil case.

shyt if she sleeps around a lot, has drug issues, mental health issues, any character flaws really. Your not helping your civil case but helping the police collect character info on her sexual history.

Plus, there is an unspoken threat to Giddey to settle with the family out of court because if he doesn’t the family can go to the police and start “cooperating”.

I also think we assume the parent knew, they may not have and now that they do are setting up to sue Giddey.

Brother there is nothing muddy about this.
Morally maybe... legally NO.

Whether she lied to him about her age ... And he had reason to believe she was of age.
No matter if she was a whore, prostitute, on drugs etc...
Having sex with a minor is illegal.
It's crazy but that's what it is.
So none of that info would hurt the family in a criminal case or civil.

Everyone on here thought that when it said "family not cooperating"...
That giddey paid the family off.

Now thecoli is saying, they didn't get paid off, they are not cooperating with police now as a game plan to get giddey to settle.

This nikka was accused of fukking a minor.
Brother it wouldn't have taken much for him to settle.

We just gotta see how this all plays out

 

[GoldenGlove]

Seems like this kind of died down

Where?

 

[Tha_Mac]

Where?

He got booed every time he touched the ball vs the Rockets last night....proud of my city

 

[Wargames]

Brother there is nothing muddy about this.
Morally maybe... legally NO.

Whether she lied to him about her age ... And he had reason to believe she was of age.
No matter if she was a whore, prostitute, on drugs etc...
Having sex with a minor is illegal.
It's crazy but that's what it is.
So none of that info would hurt the family in a criminal case or civil.

Everyone on here thought that when it said "family not cooperating"...
That giddey paid the family off.

Now thecoli is saying, they didn't get paid off, they are not cooperating with police now as a game plan to get giddey to settle.

This nikka was accused of fukking a minor.
Brother it wouldn't have taken much for him to settle.

We just gotta see how this all plays out

mistake of fact

www.law.cornell.edu

Age is arguably one of the most common forms of mistake of fact usually around the idea children sign a contract and once it’s known they were kids the contract is voided. It’s a excuse defense that is effective.

Also once again we do not know if the parents knew she slept with Giddey. The way I see it the brother knew but the parents might have just found out. Teenagers don’t normally tell their parents there sleeping around. Especially teenage daughters.

 

[mag357]

mistake of fact

www.law.cornell.edu

Age is arguably one of the most common forms of mistake of fact usually around the idea children sign a contract and once it’s known they were kids the contract is voided. It’s a excuse defense that is effective.

Also once again we do not know if the parents knew she slept with Giddey. The way I see it the brother knew but the parents might have just found out. Teenagers don’t normally tell their parents there sleeping around. Especially teenage daughters.

Brother... U might want to specifically Google the argument at hand.

Being lied to about the age of a minor is not a valid defense.
Maybe in a few states but for the most part... NO

And I'm still confused about the point you're making about the parents not knowing if she slept with giddey.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

 

[Dorian Breh]

pat bev got on kevin harts show live during the in season tournament and pressed him about this

 

[Dorian Breh]

Unless its Ja Morant...

 

[Tribal Outkast]

Unless its Ja Morant...

I‘m with you on Ja and it’s definitely a good point.
my thing is people be bringing up Ja and people like that when they want to make a point. I saw mad people online making Ja skits, memes, and other jokes. I haven’t seen too many Josh Giddey jokes. Online chatter helps these folks make decisions I think. Folk wanted Ja suspended for a bunch of games, etc. it was easy to do what they did to Ja because he was caught on camera. People will see something happen to black athletes, participate in clowning the black athlet, then get mad at the media for talking about the black athlete. We are living in weird times man smh. My biggest issue with the whole thing is why is the kid still playing through all of this… nothing else matters to me.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I‘m with you on Ja and it’s definitely a good point.
my thing is people be bringing up Ja and people like that when they want to make a point. I saw mad people online making Ja skits, memes, and other jokes. I haven’t seen too many Josh Giddey jokes. Online chatter helps these folks make decisions I think. it was easy to do what they did to Ja because he was caught on camera. People will see something happen to black athletes, participate in clowning the black athlet, then get mad at the media for talking about the black athlete. We are living in weird times man smh. My biggest issue with the whole thing is why is the kid still playing through all of this… nothing else matters to me.

That’s an easy answer because what Giddey is being accused of isn’t socially acceptable to make fun of especially in this age and climate.

Even the Silver parody tweet someone posted a few days ago wasn’t funny at all and why they put that disclaimer under the comment on Twitter.